Tary Allen Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 @Ceka Cianci yours is pink, was it texture change? Now I'll have to dig it out from inventory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Orwar said: .. And where is my pony?! 32 minutes ago, Fauve Aeon said: We never got a pony in a premium gift? Hm… I'm pretty sure it was @Dakota Linden that promised a pony a few years back when the price of Premium first went up. She just kept saying that they must have gotten lost in the mail. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arduenn Schwartzman Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 9:05 PM, Lord Derryth said: It's starting to dawn on me that SL is by far the most expensive platform out there. Dude, it's completely free. [Edit] Oh, great, a zombie post. Edited January 10, 2023 by Arduenn Schwartzman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Luminos Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Orwar said: .. And where is my pony?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Tary Allen said: @Ceka Cianci yours is pink, was it texture change? Now I'll have to dig it out from inventory It might have been the lighting you had going at the time.. Sometimes white turns different colors in different light settings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polenth Yue Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Michaelatv Destiny said: But now, I really dont know what to make of it. half the world is starving or drowning in rain or boiling hot in summer yet these sims in Blakes seas get even further away from normal working class people. you would think you were buying real land. Blake Sea is ridiculous, but there are a lot of cheaper parcels that join the waterways that reach that sea. Even more since the Linden Homes as they connected the continents. Plus getting a Linden Home is a very cost-effective way of having something that connects to that water (all houseboats and a lot of the stilts do, plus other coastal houses in other themes). I'm working class and a lot of stuff is outside my reach in Second Life, but I can have a house and some land and buy stuff. It's not as all or nothing as you're treating it. There are lots of options between the most expensive region in Second Life and nothing at all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Once you factor in the stipend (assume L$300 per week), an annually-paid premium account and a Linden Home works out at around US$37 a year. Just over three dollars a month. Not many forms of entertainment these days are that cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 The amusing thing is that the original post was about Dual Universe having a fixed monthly price. Luca Grabacr, who made some great SL videos (Look up "Luca the Guide" on YouTube) went over to Dual Universe. Dual Universe has multiple planets, and you can claim land and build. But to build, you have to mine resources first. It's a grinding game. So, in Luca's early Dual Universe videos, she's busily mining away and accumulating resources. Gradually, she accumulates enough to create mining and production machinery. Some of this can be put on automatic. She starts building spaceships. Then bigger spaceships. Finally, giant carriers the size of real-world aircraft carriers, packed with small craft. She builds a base and a temple, and gets some furry friends to crew her fleet. So, in SL terms, she has several regions developed and full of stuff. Then Dual Universe changed the rules. Solo players could no longer build that much stuff. Luca was annoyed, left Dual Universe, and now spends most of her time in Space Engineers. So, that's life in a flat rate system. Cost/resource balance for big virtual worlds is hard. There are other approaches. Open Simulator has cheap land but the servers tend to be underpowered. Otherside can handle large crowds, but is so expensive to run, with one user per server, that all they do is have special events for a few hours a few times a year. It's a hard problem to do this economically. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Orwar said: .. And where is my pony?! 5 hours ago, Fauve Aeon said: We never got a pony in a premium gift? Hm… 5 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said: I'm pretty sure it was @Dakota Linden that promised a pony a few years back when the price of Premium first went up. She just kept saying that they must have gotten lost in the mail. Correction - I found the posts. It was @Grumpity Linden that kept promising ponies and then said they were in the mail and it was the Post Office fault if we didn't get them. https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/428968-town-hall-meeting-with-grumpity-oz-and-patch-linden-november-15/?do=findComment&comment=1806621 https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/428968-town-hall-meeting-with-grumpity-oz-and-patch-linden-november-15/?do=findComment&comment=1807545 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PekeNL Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Second life is expensive because, despite it being a virtual escape from the real world, it's dominated by US and Canadian players. So instead of a escape, it became Capitalism 2.0 electric boogaloo.Yes, I'm calling people out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harper Held Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, PekeNL said: Second life is expensive because, despite it being a virtual escape from the real world, it's dominated by US and Canadian players. So instead of a escape, it became Capitalism 2.0 electric boogaloo.Yes, I'm calling people out. heh, All I can say to that is that you should have seen it in 2005. Everything that wasn't nailed down was charged for, "lassie faire" libertarianism was the zeitgeist of the day and it was horrifically creepy AF. What we've had for the last ~15 years (since the ponzi schemes were run out -more or less) is nothing, totally small potatoes in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 SL could be expensive --- but necroposts are cheap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said: SL could be expensive --- but necroposts are cheap! This is a battle that can't be won. If someone starts a new thread over a previous discussed subject chances are the reactions will be along the line of "Why a new thread, we already have several of these on our forums" And if someone replies in an already existing thread there is always a chance that the necro card is played. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 7 hours ago, PekeNL said: Second life is expensive because, despite it being a virtual escape from the real world, it's dominated by US and Canadian players. So instead of a escape, it became Capitalism 2.0 electric boogaloo.Yes, I'm calling people out. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Theresa Tennyson said: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dutch_tulip_bulb_market_bubble.asp Well: That history is repeating itself with the buzz word called Bitcoin. I think that SL is mainly so expensive because of the 'In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king' principle. If there was more serious similar competition, prices would have dropped more over the years. Edited January 11, 2023 by Sid Nagy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillFletcher Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 hours ago, PekeNL said: Second life is expensive because, despite it being a virtual escape from the real world, it's dominated by US and Canadian players. So instead of a escape, it became Capitalism 2.0 electric boogaloo.Yes, I'm calling people out. If all you want to do is escape the real world, you can do that with a free account, there is no requirement that you spend money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted January 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2023 22 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said: I'm pretty sure it was @Dakota Linden that promised a pony a few years back when the price of Premium first went up. She just kept saying that they must have gotten lost in the mail. Not me! LOL The only person I know of who ever promised someone a pony (horse) was Elon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Dakota Linden said: Not me! LOL The only person I know of who ever promised someone a pony (horse) was Elon. Bring back Pony Linden*! https://secondlife.fandom.com/wiki/Pony_Linden One (1) Pony please! *Just Pony... we can't ride Ben 🤭😇 Edited January 11, 2023 by Silent Mistwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Bring back Pony Linden*! https://secondlife.fandom.com/wiki/Pony_Linden One (1) Pony please! *Just Pony... we can't ride Ben 🤭😇 Oh yeah. Gonna ride Pony Linden over and over, up and down, all day long. What ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Oh yeah. Gonna ride Pony Linden over and over, up and down, all day long. What ? People have been wondering how it all got started so I told them. Oops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polenth Yue Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Dakota Linden said: Not me! LOL The only person I know of who ever promised someone a pony (horse) was Elon. It's never too late to promise us a pony! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istelathis Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Dakota Linden said: Not me! LOL The only person I know of who ever promised someone a pony (horse) was Elon. 17 minutes ago, Polenth Yue said: It's never too late to promise us a pony! Exactly this, plus a pony a day, keeps the drama at bay! Think of all of the spare time you will have as we all ride into the sunset on our glorious ponies! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prokofy Neva Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 1:54 PM, LittleMe Jewell said: I'm pretty sure it was @Dakota Linden that promised a pony a few years back when the price of Premium first went up. She just kept saying that they must have gotten lost in the mail. The "pony" idea originated with the features voting system (yes! there was such a thing!). Residents could -- outside the JIRA! -- put up proposals for features and collect votes. It was killed by an authoritarian resident bent on "helping" the Lindens "clean it up" and this sabotage generated debate and Torley closed it down. One of the proposals was "to have a pony in the welcome areas". Not a pony for everyone. Just in the welcome areas to ride. The pods need not keep running when no one is there; they could be on demand and save on sim resources and stop the spam of sims, since most of them are empty. I never understood whether the world described by the OP was contiguous. I think with the new "plus" account of $5.99 which comes with a 512, the Lindens have made SL very cheap, less than a typical game. The cost of a full sim is now $166. It's a big expense for many people, like an expensive phone/Internet/cable bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Dakota Linden said: Not me! LOL The only person I know of who ever promised someone a pony (horse) was Elon. Yeah - I made a correction post above when I found the original discussions. It was Gumpity that promised us all ponies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: Yeah - I made a correction post above when I found the original discussions. It was Gumpity that promised us all ponies. I think I saw Grumpity sneak into AWS to remove all evidence of the ponies! Edited January 11, 2023 by Kimmi Zehetbauer A pony stepped on the keyboard causing the edit. :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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