Alwin Alcott Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, sirhc DeSantis said: Not nice Is why this forum should be ... choose Premium only i can't imagine people get nicer when they pay for premium. that is all a no. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: i can't imagine people get nicer when they pay for premium. I pay for premium. Didn't make me nice. See! 1 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, sirhc DeSantis said: Is why this forum should be ... choose Premium only that is all Sure .. the forums are already running low on members , practically crawling so lets restrict them even more ti keep then nice and tidy for the remainng 10-20 people. (btw most devs aren't Premiums, you 'd have to visit their websites for help) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Orwar said: I pay for premium. Didn't make me nice. See! i'm not premium and am very nice! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiyumei Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Orwar said: I pay for premium. Didn't make me nice. See! I beg to differ. You're one of the nicest vampire, kinkster, hobbyist photographer, introvert, sardonicist, optimistic nihilist, atheistic satanist, history buff, foodie, misanthrope, dog person I met 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Sharkfin Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 From what I've seen the only difference between posts by free members as opposed to those made by premium members is a slight increase in their sense of self-entitlement. Free account: This is what I want, give it to me now! Premium account: This is what I want, I paid you money so I demand you give it to me now! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Aiyumei said: You're one of the nicest vampire, kinkster, hobbyist photographer, introvert, sardonicist, optimistic nihilist, atheistic satanist, history buff, foodie, misanthrope, dog person I met Shh, don't tell anyone! I have a reputation to maintain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Nova Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Damned plebs should'nt be allowed to say anything. They should be obscene and not heard. Edited January 30, 2022 by Anna Nova 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Well, it's possible that a new person with a basic account could be so pleased with the friendly reception they get from the forum members that they decide to go Premium, but the important thing is that they can get in to be welcomed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syo Emerald Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Can you stop doing stuff when I'm asleep? What did I miss? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Posts from brand new members should not be restricted, its the only way they can get help. I'd like to see their first few (maybe 10) posts vetted by a mod before becoming visible, but only if they could be vetted and made visible within an hour, regardless of the time of day/day of the week. Any more than an hour and people are not getting the urgent help they may need with an in-world problem. And with the level of staffing here, that wouldn't be possible. The only thing that disappoints me about this forum is how one or two people are allowed to be so disruptive and still not get banned. It's not even the new ones that are the problem. It's ones that have been here a while, know better and are doing it on purpose. I have those people muted so I don't see what they write but clearly not everyone does because they get plenty of replies. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Luminos Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Maitimo said: The only thing that disappoints me about this forum is how one or two people are allowed to be so disruptive and still not get banned. Actually I think that particular person might already have been banned from posting (or at least suspended). No posts from them since Wednesday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Trolls only come for one thing: Attention. As long as the other members give that to them, they will continue and worsen their behavior until a moderator finally pulls the plug. If everybody would use the scroll wheel on the mouse to ignore their posts, they would leave quickly. But that is hard. In the end, we all want to win the Internet, right? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Solo Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Correct or not I base my, (possibly terse), reply on a few things: Tone & style of what is written. Non english based, specific native language text patterns/indicators. (if displayed/similarities of written expression to *others) Immediate absence of known trolls at the time of post appearing. Individual user post count. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Syo Emerald said: Can you stop doing stuff when I'm asleep? What did I miss? Honestly nothing very much at all this time. Two posts by one new poster that was quite offensive (racist, sweary) - ALL TYPED IN CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!! - but knocked out within five minutes. Edited January 29, 2022 by Marigold Devin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Aiyumei said: I beg to differ. You're one of the nicest vampire, kinkster, hobbyist photographer, introvert, sardonicist, optimistic nihilist, atheistic satanist, history buff, foodie, misanthrope, dog person I met You left out pessimistic optimist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The OP doesn't even give a reason for wanting the forums to be exclusive. And it's the weekend. Hmmm.... Making the trolls pay a premium, while it might eliminate the ones of limited resources, would not stop them. But it would seriously hinder new people (who might later become premium) from getting the help they need to become a long time resident. There are many rich elitists a-holes. Why should we use money as the criteria to exclude people? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I once moderated a technical forum that had some interesting tools to allow "self moderation". I wouldn't be surprised if this forum software has such tools. Here's how we set up that technical forum... New posters were "on probation", and could have their posts removed upon receiving some threshold level of abuse reports for the post. They could also be automatically blocked from posting if they exceeded another threshold for total abuse reports. This allowed spam to be removed immediately by forum members, and for abusive posters to be sidelined until a moderator came online to sort through the evidence. There was little incentive to abuse the abuse reporting system because all abuse reports were seen my moderators. Posts that had been removed or new posters who'd been blocked could be brought back if a moderator determined that the forum members had been overzealous in their reporting. During the year or so I was on the moderation team for that forum, this cooperative approach worked very well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Madelaine McMasters said: I once moderated a technical forum that had some interesting tools to allow "self moderation". I wouldn't be surprised if this forum software has such tools. Here's how we set up that technical forum... New posters were "on probation", and could have their posts removed upon receiving some threshold level of abuse reports for the post. They could also be automatically blocked from posting if they exceeded another threshold for total abuse reports. This allowed spam to be removed immediately by forum members, and for abusive posters to be sidelined until a moderator came online to sort through the evidence. There was little incentive to abuse the abuse reporting system because all abuse reports were seen my moderators. Posts that had been removed or new posters who'd been blocked could be brought back if a moderator determined that the forum members had been overzealous in their reporting. During the year or so I was on the moderation team for that forum, this cooperative approach worked very well. In general, I like community-based moderation a lot. It is, of course, prone to abuse, but this approach seems to mitigate that possibility. The biggest downside, which applies mostly to smaller communities, is the possibility of moderation becoming a mechanism to protect and reinforce coteries and cliques, but if there is some oversight by mods who are at some distance from that, maybe that's less of an issue? Then again, this forum isn't really an open community, is it? It is, in theory if not always in practice, a tool wielded by a corporation in the service of its profit-making product. Kudos to LL for the fact that this is very seldom evident here: criticism of SL abounds and even flourishes! But I'm still not sure that LL would see an upside to handing the reins over to us as completely as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, kali Wylder said: The OP doesn't even give a reason for wanting the forums to be exclusive. And it's the weekend. Hmmm.... For what it's worth, the OP is an old-timer, specializing in brief hit and run raids that are characterized mostly by a deep vein of "sardonic" and "cynical." Not a troll. Just very very grumpy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krystina Ferraris Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Sihrc I am not willing to jump to conclusions because… your kitty cat pic 🐈 🙂 I am basic not premium, I used to be premium for years but never really saw the value for me. As basic I can do exactly the same stuff I did as premium, minus the fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arduenn Schwartzman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Hey, I'm a premium member. And how did that ever improve the forum, hmmm? Myth. Busted. Edited January 30, 2022 by Arduenn Schwartzman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: Myth. Busted. Eh... Are you Mr. Hyneman or Mr. Savage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arduenn Schwartzman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said: Are you Mr. Hyneman or Mr. Savage? I haven't decided yet. Hyneman's quite grumpy, but his moustache is way better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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