Chris Corvinus Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) If you live in these states, you’re screwed if you’re looking to buy a decent pc for SL. No idea what would happen if you already own one. Building your own is still legal though because that makes sense. California Washington Vermont Hawaii Colorado Oregon https://hothardware.com/news/californias-confusing-energy-law-may-have-just-taken-away-your-gaming-pc Please discuss without getting political. This is important and I don’t want a Linden to swoop in and lock my thread, thanks! Edited July 28, 2021 by Chris Nova 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 It doesn’t affect me cause I build my computers. I’m sure computer businesses will figure out how to get around the law. Maybe selling computer “kits” where you buy a power supply separately. This is a political issue but I will abide by the rules set forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) I don't see HOW you can't get political with this? Is the government going to start telling me how much food I can keep in my fridge next? or how much water I"m allowed to use. God forbid they start telling people they can only birth one child. This almost seems like it came from the onion because its so ridiculous! Edited July 28, 2021 by Sam1 Bellisserian 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 They just need to put a solar panel on one side and put it by the window to lower the grid consumption enough to be within the limits....in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Bree Giffen said: Maybe selling computer “kits” Oh, hadn't thought of that. Maybe rejuvenate the old "barebones" market, too. Could be a win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardy Lay Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Nah, not a problem. Read the legislation, not the click-bait "press". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: I don't see HOW you can't get political with this? Is the government going to start telling me how much food I can keep in my fridge next? or how much water I"m allowed to use. God forbid they start telling people they can only birth one child. This almost seems like it came from the onion because its so ridiculous! In America out west, it won't be long before they are limiting them on water and power usage, not because of politics though.. It's the drought plus Lake Meade level dropping over the last two decades. This summer really put a big dent in it as well.. They're in a real tight spot out west right now.. I feel for them. ETA: Edited July 28, 2021 by Ceka Cianci 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: I don't see HOW you can't get political with this? Is the government going to start telling me how much food I can keep in my fridge next? or how much water I"m allowed to use. God forbid they start telling people they can only birth one child. This almost seems like it came from the onion because its so ridiculous! Governments regulate if they think it is needed. They forced environmental rules on cars in the past, they are going to enforce gas free driving in the not so far future. If they find a way to store the needed extension cords in planes, they will order electrical airplanes as well. Climate will get more and more important in the upcoming decades. We better get used to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssa Greymoon Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 It’s soooo easy to build your own PC now, I don’t see how this would be a problem for anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Chris Nova said: If you live in these states, you’re screwed if you’re looking to buy a decent pc for SL. This is simply not true. Thank you @Lyssa Greymoonfor posting that video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Mommy Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If you read the actual legislation it's not at all worth the clickbait articles. But clickbait sells I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Kobichenko Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said: In America out west, it won't be long before they are limiting them on water and power usage, not because of politics though.. It's the drought plus Lake Meade level dropping over the last two decades. This summer really put a big dent in it as well.. They're in a real tight spot out west right now.. I feel for them. ETA: This. All of this. We dammed up the Colorado river with the Hoover damn (which is hydro electric) to create lake Meade to water Las Vegas & parts of Cali & AZ. This was after the Salton Sea was created prematurely unnaturally when a bunch of dikes on the river busted & flooded the basin. We then rerouted that water and the sea dried back up. (It has its own previously occurring cycle of 500 years). A really interesting documentary about the Sea can be found here: https://www.pbs.org/video/truly-ca-plagues-pleasures-salton-sea-episode-302-trulyca/ Anyhoo, we’ve bled the Colorado dry & now lake Meade is so low is producing 30% less electricity than designed to. The brownouts of last summer https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/08/18/california-has-first-rolling-blackouts-in-19-years-and-everyone-faces-blame-1309757 & just about all of Texas was without power for extended stretches of days during the Arctic Blast of Feb 2021 & they’re holding their breath this summer. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/04/15/texas-ercot-blackouts-summer-climate/ Just illuminate just how dire a different way of doing things is needed. We’ve proven time & again how we are irresponsible custodians of our home & haven’t got a handle on renewable sustainable energy. Changes have to begin with a first step. Edited July 28, 2021 by Pixie Kobichenko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Does anyone know what happens if you already own a non-compliment PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssa Greymoon Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chris Nova said: Does anyone know what happens if you already own a non-compliment PC? Nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Chris Nova said: Does anyone know what happens if you already own a non-compliment PC? Nothing...you could have a friend send you one if you are in one of those states 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Lyssa Greymoon said: Nothing. Well, that’s good. I’m just waiting for NY to adopt this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: Nothing...you could have a friend send you one if you are in one of those states I’m not in one of those states but I’m in a state that generally copy’s whatever Cali does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) I don't see this being an issue in a few years as vid cards are becoming more and more efficient in terms of energy use. Bitcoin miners are a double edged sword. Yes they make the cost of vid cards higher but they also caused makers to make them more efficient. The current generation is nearly twice (?) as energy efficient as the previous one. They're just expensive AF and hard to find even if you could afford one. Edit: After watching the vid, it doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all anyways. Edited July 28, 2021 by Finite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Chris Nova said: Does anyone know what happens if you already own a non-compliment PC? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quistess Alpha Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 42 minutes ago, Lyssa Greymoon said: TL;DR If your (prebuilt) gaming computer has a "gold-standard" power supply and a good graphics card, it gets into a loophole in the regulations. The sky isn't falling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 The regs are only for idle/sleep mode? I don't see a big problem then. It does seem as if most gaming computers already out there are possibly exempt? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris Nova said: Please discuss without getting political. Is joke? Ha! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris Nova said: If you live in these states, you’re screwed if you’re looking to buy a decent pc for SL. No idea what would happen if you already own one. Building your own is still legal though because that makes sense. California Washington Vermont Hawaii Colorado Oregon https://hothardware.com/news/californias-confusing-energy-law-may-have-just-taken-away-your-gaming-pc Please discuss without getting political. This is important and I don’t want a Linden to swoop in and lock my thread, thanks! Quote Before we all panic and start hoarding gaming PCs like we are crypto miners, there are a few important things to understand about the new Title 20 energy efficiency regulations, that should put most gamer's minds at ease: The regulations only apply to prebuilds from systems integrators (SIs), not custom builds The regulations only apply when your computer isn’t active, so while it's sleeping or idle The efficiency calculations take into account expandability, so they can end up favoring larger PCs over smaller builds “They are not targeting gamers specifically, they are targeting gluttons,” JayzTwoCents explained in his very helpful video on this topic, where he explained the regulations. So rest assured, California is not banning gaming PCs. That said,they are instituting some new energy efficiency specifications that may block the sale of certain prebuilt PCs that don’t comply with the new energy efficiency requirements. The regulations in question were put into planned effect in 2016. The standards are being phased in over the course of five years, with each year a new class of devices being added to the list. The newest wave of effective regulations activated on July 1st, affecting desktop computers, thin clients, and mobile gaming systems. California is also joined by Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, and Vermont in instituting the new energy standards. As stated above, these regulations will only affect residents of California and the other states if they are buying from a Systems Integrator like Alienware, Origin, IBuyPower, etc., who have contracts with hardware manufacturers and make gaming systems for people. If you are building your own custom PC, these regulations will not affect you https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/14669/no-california-is-not-banning-gaming-pcs Edited July 28, 2021 by Silent Mistwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Is joke? Ha! I don’t want it locked ok 😭😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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