Attention! Use of Red Cross mark

[Hitomi Copperfield]

Regarding the use of the Red Cross mark

Red cross mark;

Many people think that this is a hospital mark, an ambulance mark, a nurse's mark, etc.

Unfortunately, I see this red cross mark being used in various places in Second Life.

This red cross on a white background is a mark that can only be used for activities related to the Red Cross, the world's largest humanitarian aid NGO.

This is strictly stipulated by the Geneva Convention and the laws of each country.

Therefore, if this mark is displayed on nurses' uniforms or on signs of non-Red Cross hospitals or clinics, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

In Islamic countries, it is called the Red Crescent, and the mark is a red crescent moon on a white background, and this mark is treated in exactly the same way as the Red Cross.

The Red Cross symbol is internationally protected.

It is necessary to prohibit unauthorized use of the Red Cross mark by third parties other than the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross.

[Rowan Amore]

9 minutes ago, Hitomi Copperfield said:

Regarding the use of the Red Cross mark

Red cross mark;

Many people think that this is a hospital mark, an ambulance mark, a nurse's mark, etc.

Unfortunately, I see this red cross mark being used in various places in Second Life.

This red cross on a white background is a mark that can only be used for activities related to the Red Cross, the world's largest humanitarian aid NGO.

This is strictly stipulated by the Geneva Convention and the laws of each country.

Therefore, if this mark is displayed on nurses' uniforms or on signs of non-Red Cross hospitals or clinics, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

In Islamic countries, it is called the Red Crescent, and the mark is a red crescent moon on a white background, and this mark is treated in exactly the same way as the Red Cross.

The Red Cross symbol is internationally protected.

It is necessary to prohibit unauthorized use of the Red Cross mark by third parties other than the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross.

Perhaps you should contact the Red Cross and let them know.

[Aethelwine]

Whilst letting the Red Cross know you might want to let them know it is widely used on fetish nurse wear too.

Or maybe they chose not to enforce their rights except where people are using it to trying to present themselves as medical professionals. 

[Rick Nightingale]

Deleted - no loss to the thread. Why did I bother to feed the troll at all? I was bored while waiting for a Blender render to finish  - don't know why I chose that emoticon other than why not?

 

Edited April 8 by Rick Nightingale

[Extrude Ragu]

I've noticed there's this class of people that behave somewhat like dementors who survive by sucking the spirit and soul out of those around them.

Have you ever noticed how for example the music industry is the most litiguous? I'm convinced it's because music is something that allows people to share positive vibrations and have their spirits lifted. There are so many people who become lawyers who specialise specifically in music purely because they get to suck the spirit out of humanity and it is something they take genuine joy in. They don't actually need the money, and there are industries that need protection way more than music - But that's of no relevance to a dementor.

Why go after the red cross? well it's a symbol that to many represents healing and love. In certain countries in mathematics, the plus sign has its top removed, because certain people take genuine offence to the + symbol and refuse to draw it.

Edited April 8 by Extrude Ragu

[Modulated]

OP coming in to make this thread like...

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[Jordyn McGregor]

11 minutes ago, Modulated said:

OP coming in to make this thread like...

Brilliant use of gif.  I believe its a fitting one for another poster...who shall remain nameless.  If you know, you know!!!

[Paul Hexem]

2 hours ago, Aethelwine said:

widely used on fetish nurse wear

 

2 hours ago, Aethelwine said:

 trying to present themselves as medical professionals. 

Wait. Is there insurance that covers that?

[Sorciaa]

Someone should have informed the Templars of this

[Extrude Ragu]

One might ask themselves how the symbol  ﬩ came to be. I won't give my opinions on the matter. Here is not the place.

All I'm saying is that sometimes the reason people care to point out silly inconsequential rules so much is not an obsession with rules but because of a deeper meaning that would go unnoticed by many.

The origins of the Red Cross are interesting. Although I wouldn't consider it a religious organisation, Its founder was a devout Christian.

[CaitlinParker]

3 hours ago, Hitomi Copperfield said:

Regarding the use of the Red Cross mark

Red cross mark;

Many people think that this is a hospital mark, an ambulance mark, a nurse's mark, etc.

Unfortunately, I see this red cross mark being used in various places in Second Life.

This red cross on a white background is a mark that can only be used for activities related to the Red Cross, the world's largest humanitarian aid NGO.

This is strictly stipulated by the Geneva Convention and the laws of each country.

Therefore, if this mark is displayed on nurses' uniforms or on signs of non-Red Cross hospitals or clinics, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

In Islamic countries, it is called the Red Crescent, and the mark is a red crescent moon on a white background, and this mark is treated in exactly the same way as the Red Cross.

The Red Cross symbol is internationally protected.

It is necessary to prohibit unauthorized use of the Red Cross mark by third parties other than the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross.

[Zalificent Corvinus]

40 minutes ago, Sorciaa said:

Someone should have informed the Templars of this

And St George.

 

[Extrude Ragu]

During Easter this year in the UK, the retailer Iceland decided to remove the cross from their hot cross buns. It all seems so insignificant, but if one looks to the origins of the hot cross bun one might be tempted to think that perhaps there is more  meaning behind the decision to erase than a simple stylistic choice

 

 

[gwynchisholm]

This is in the same vein as people who get upset when they get muted because “freedom of speech”, as if it applies to a privately run game on the internet.

This goes without saying that the Geneva convention does not apply to a virtual chat room from 2003.

[Zalificent Corvinus]

5 hours ago, Hitomi Copperfield said:

an ambulance mark

Make sure you tell the US Military, they apparently could spend upto $800 million on these.

[Love Zhaoying]

5 hours ago, Hitomi Copperfield said:

Regarding the use of the Red Cross mark

Red cross mark;

Many people think that this is a hospital mark, an ambulance mark, a nurse's mark, etc.

Unfortunately, I see this red cross mark being used in various places in Second Life.

This red cross on a white background is a mark that can only be used for activities related to the Red Cross, the world's largest humanitarian aid NGO.

This is strictly stipulated by the Geneva Convention and the laws of each country.

Therefore, if this mark is displayed on nurses' uniforms or on signs of non-Red Cross hospitals or clinics, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

In Islamic countries, it is called the Red Crescent, and the mark is a red crescent moon on a white background, and this mark is treated in exactly the same way as the Red Cross.

The Red Cross symbol is internationally protected.

It is necessary to prohibit unauthorized use of the Red Cross mark by third parties other than the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross.

Can we use the "Red Crescent" instead?

https://www.ifrc.org/

[Ceka Cianci]

35 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

Make sure you tell the US Military, they apparently could spend upto $800 million on these.

Someone needs to tell Hollywood too!! \o/

 

[Prokofy Neva]

6 hours ago, Hitomi Copperfield said:

Regarding the use of the Red Cross mark

Red cross mark;

Many people think that this is a hospital mark, an ambulance mark, a nurse's mark, etc.

Unfortunately, I see this red cross mark being used in various places in Second Life.

This red cross on a white background is a mark that can only be used for activities related to the Red Cross, the world's largest humanitarian aid NGO.

This is strictly stipulated by the Geneva Convention and the laws of each country.

Therefore, if this mark is displayed on nurses' uniforms or on signs of non-Red Cross hospitals or clinics, it is a violation of the Geneva Convention.

In Islamic countries, it is called the Red Crescent, and the mark is a red crescent moon on a white background, and this mark is treated in exactly the same way as the Red Cross.

The Red Cross symbol is internationally protected.

It is necessary to prohibit unauthorized use of the Red Cross mark by third parties other than the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross.

The official name of the "Red Cross" is the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which I saw in action in my many years at the UN in various NGOs.

In addition to the Red Cross and the Red Crescent, there is the Magen David Adom, the Israeli branch which uses the Jewish symbol of the Star of David -- this took a certain fight to get approved years ago.

You're right that the symbol cannot be used unless authorized by the bearers of the Geneva Convention which is the ICRC (which themselves tilt towards the anti-Israel faction prevalent in the world with their public denunciations of Israel and their silence on abuses by countries such as Russia, Uzbekistan, Iran, etc.) This is the way of the UN. 

The Russians constantly misuses this symbol by letting combatants use it for all kinds of illegitimate purposes unrelated to first aid.

So technically you are correct. Except this is a virtual world run by a private company with no outlet in the real world involved in real crisis zones where something might be misconstrued. The ICRC has not come chasing down some little RP group in SL with 117 members who wants to do play-cop and play-nurse. The point about international law is that it is not enforceable, the ICRC obviously doesn't have an army. It has publicity and moral persuasion only as its "armaments".

So while you are part of the "moral majority" here doing what the "moral majority" does best -- denounce other people -- you should spend your efforts on things like the suffering of the people of Gaza and the trouble relief workers have reaching them -- Red Cross, Red Crescent, Red Star of David, notwithstanding.

 

 

Edited April 8 by Prokofy Neva

[Prokofy Neva]

1 hour ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

Make sure you tell the US Military, they apparently could spend upto $800 million on these.

Except the *relief corps* of a state's military including the US *are* allowed to use the symbol for the narrow purpose of relief. Read up on it.

Red Cross Emblem Symbolizes Neutrality, Impartiality

Those entities using it have to be neutral and deliver aid only. That's all. It's not that they can't be part of the military.

Russia uses the red cross to move armaments into Ukraine, and not only their dead soldiers *out*, but entire factories they are stealing. 

[Conifer Dada]

The flag of England is a red cross on a white background, the St. George's cross.

 

Note: - not to be confused with the Union Jack, which is the flag of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which combines the flags of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Edited April 8 by Conifer Dada

[Love Zhaoying]

I stopped paying attention after "Attention!".

[Qie Niangao]

This is kind of fun. In 2007, Johnson&Johnson sued the American Red Cross for trademark infringement. J&J has used the red cross mark since 1887.

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The company entered into an agreement with the American Red Cross in 1895. The agreement acknowledged Johnson & Johnson’s exclusive right to the red cross as a “trademark for chemical, surgical and pharmaceutical goods of every description,” according to the lawsuit

The lawsuit says that the American Red Cross has the right under a Congressional charter awarded in 1900 to use the red cross design in connection with its efforts to provide voluntary relief.

(In 2008 a US court got the parties to agree that the American Red Cross is allowed to use J&J's trademark even to sell first-aid products to stores.)

[Garnet Psaltery]

1 hour ago, Conifer Dada said:

The flag of England is a red cross on a white background, the St. George's cross.

 

Note: - not to be confused with the Union Jack, which is the flag of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which combines the flags of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Thank you for the cheery flags but allow me to disagree with the recent pronouncement of the unofficial Flag Institute by saying that the Jack is really only appropriate when being flown at sea.

[usedcars]

I will make sure to make note of it for future reference

[Anna Salyx]

4 hours ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

Make sure you tell the US Military, they apparently could spend upto $800 million on these.

The original post aside, this is acceptable use. In 1864, the Geneva Conventions established the Red Cross emblem (also Crescent and Diamond) as the universal symbols of neutrality and protection in armed conflict. Under the Geneva Conventions, the emblems of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement are to be worn by all medical and humanitarian personnel and also displayed on their vehicles and buildings while they are in an active warzone ensuring protection from hostilities.  All military forces operating in an active warzone must not attack entities displaying these emblems.