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3 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

yes, but adult doesn't always mean sexual ..all adult disappears

Examples? I just try to imagine some meat that is adult but not connected with some perversions. Blood? War? Murders?

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Good day, all! Just jumping in to respond to a few of the comments... A few folks are speculating that this is the end of SL and nothing could be further from the truth. Any talk of dismantl

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4 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Wouldn't shifting things to the client mean even more issues getting a decent mobile client? 

The aspects I mentioned would run on mobile fine, they already do for minecraft and fortnite. It's the rest of SL that makes a rich desktop experience rendered and processed locally on a mobile platform impossible. Very best you could hope for is avatar dress up .. and even then that would be a janky mess because of how inventory works. Realistically ... if we get any 3D at all .. it might just be "Show my avatar, play an animation".

4 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

yep .. not only a checkbox to enter adult regions or specificly looking for adult in mp/destinations (and so on) but also a checkbox if you actually want to get the meat slapped in your face all the time when doing a buy/search or open a mp page/destination/classified
Same with the content on the forums, adult destinations, whore house /escort house employments where it belongs: the adult section.

Sounds like what you really want is someway to access adult content, except for the adult content you don't.

Do we need to give every object in world, on the SLM, etc a check box declaring   [  ] This a *****

Or you could, you know, stick to "general & mature".

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15 hours ago, RiffRegan said:

Child AVs will be banned. Investors won't want to be associated with that; far too distasteful. Best to just ban outright. 

It's also possible that Premium status will be required for uploads. 

 

 

I am a Dinkie at times in SL (not always; am sometimes human too) but I hope that ban wouldn't include "tinies" which are child-sized humanimals rather than a human child.   I hope we would not be banned.  Perhaps allowing child avi's on General only maybe if that ever were to be discussed.  Plus, the right to online privacy is over according to the United States Congress as of a few months ago.  Soon the way we log into anything on the computer will change including SL.  

But, as for needing Premium for uploads.  Why would that be?  Would SL creators begin to be charged income taxes or something?  

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3 hours ago, Ardy Lay said:

Tell us what remains when sexual content is filtered out of the adult category.

Wine, beer, marijuana joints are supposed to go into adult for some that I know of.  

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1 minute ago, Iren Tinkel said:

So you want to see wine and weed but hate to see naked boobs and escort? XD

No, I'm just answering a question as to what is considered "adult" as it's not just sexual.  It involves alcohol and Solar has a good link up there.

I do not think the adult content should be removed nor do I think it will as I stated in a previous post.

I am actually surprised so many think the adult content would be removed.  I've never thought it would by any acquirer.  

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1 minute ago, FairreLilette said:

No, I'm just answering a question as to what is considered "adult" as it's not just sexual.  It involves alcohol and Solar has a good link up there.

I do not think the adult content should be removed nor do I think it will as I stated in a previous post.

I am actually surprised so many think the adult content would be removed.  I've never thought it would by any acquirer.  

Personally I think that SL will end without adult. Good dolls, clothes, things and even wine and weed are great but after some time people get bored with that especially if they are not creators. Sexual part is something kinda real fun and things that you will NEVER try in rl. What for me I create 18+ movements for almost 10 years and still I love that. PG is bore, 18+ is millions variations and never my fantasy ends on this way same as requests of my kinky customers.

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8 minutes ago, Iren Tinkel said:

Personally I think that SL will end without adult. Good dolls, clothes, things and even wine and weed are great but after some time people get bored with that especially if they are not creators. Sexual part is something kinda real fun and things that you will NEVER try in rl. What for me I create 18+ movements for almost 10 years and still I love that. PG is bore, 18+ is millions variations and never my fantasy ends on this way same as requests of my kinky customers.

I don't feel this is acquisition is about ending adult content.  But, what we were discussing as far as wine or weed is the filtration system.  It lumps a bunch of things together as adult.  

I've already stated, Marketplace needs an over-haul badly.  It doesn't even have filters for rigged/unrigged/both for example, let alone filters for clothing styles.  I've been looking for Gothic clothing for weeks now using the keyword Gothic and coming up with a whole lot of nothing.  It's terrible!  

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Everything mentioned here about what might happen is just speculation and basically moot. Either it will or it wont and only time will tell. And talking about it here wont cause it to happen, nor will it cause it not to happen. They will do with sl whatever they want, regardless of who likes it or approves of it. They may even do a full reboot and start from scratch and try and make it more family and child friendly for all anyone knows to tap into that market place of possible consumers. meaning no more adult or bdsm or kinky/fetish items on the mp. they may decide to block tpv's and force everyone to use just the official viewer ending the availability of rlv. Again who knows.. only time will tell the answer. No amount of speculation will make any difference.

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7 hours ago, Syo Emerald said:

But the porn stays?

I hope so!!! I don't actually understand why someone from my community would want to set up shop in a G area.I don't even like to go somewhere G unless it's a store, and even then I'm leery. I prefer marketplace anyways.I can keep track of my purchases.

My friends and I are enjoying living our fantasies, and have no intention of involving anyone who doesn't want to be. Just like in any community though, there are the good and the bad. 

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1 hour ago, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said:

Everything mentioned here about what might happen is just speculation and basically moot. Either it will or it wont and only time will tell. And talking about it here wont cause it to happen, nor will it cause it not to happen. They will do with sl whatever they want, regardless of who likes it or approves of it. They may even do a full reboot and start from scratch and try and make it more family and child friendly for all anyone knows to tap into that market place of possible consumers. meaning no more adult or bdsm or kinky/fetish items on the mp. they may decide to block tpv's and force everyone to use just the official viewer ending the availability of rlv. Again who knows.. only time will tell the answer. No amount of speculation will make any difference.

I have already begun encouraging my friends to make e-mail addresses based purely on our AV's (i.e. no RL info at all), so we can keep in touch, and migrate somewhere else if necessary. I think I'm being paranoid though. But if SL does go against adult content, I'm sure there will be someplace more than willing to accept our community!!!

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10 hours ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Combine this with revoking absolute avatar autonomy on private regions (you decide your avatar all the time) and allowing complete location dependent avatar substitution (your bespoke personal AV is simply not used in favor of one specified by the region) would go a long way towards making SL a place where genuine game experiences could be created.

Experiences don't have quite that much power, but they could.

Right now, you could set up an experience where you have to attach something, and it checks what you're wearing to see if you qualify for the RP sim. Combine this with a giver that gives you the appropriate avi for the sim, and you've got what you're asking for.

95% of this is having a giver at the sim entrance that gives you something good to wear.

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They will start by requesting av child's to be banned; Adult content to be filtered and in the end all sort of censorship that will fit in their minds!

What a dreadful virtual platform that would become. I really hope LL and their future owners will keep the pace on Human rights, support of minorities and believing that sex is not evil, unlike those above!

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I really do think we are running scared. Adult content is hugely profitable. Unless they are setting up a new adult service where we could migrate to. Sex DOES sell!!!

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5 minutes ago, foneco Zuzu said:

They will start by requesting av child's to be banned; Adult content to be filtered and in the end all sort of censorship that will fit in their minds!

What a dreadful virtual platform that would become. I really hope LL and their future owners will keep the pace on Human rights, support of minorities and believing that sex is not evil, unlike those above!

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I could care less about child avatars or the adult side of SL. I ventured into the adult side of SL a few years ago out of curiosity and found nothing but sexually starved submissives that came across somewhat similar to the zombies from dawn of the dead whenever anyone shows the slightest bit of interest, dominants who think that putting "PAY ME PIGGY" in their picks will somehow encourage everyone to take them "super serial" and noob accounts operated by sexually challenged males who can't openly admit they just want a piece of that futa action.

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15 minutes ago, foneco Zuzu said:

and believing that sex is not evil, unlike those above!

If sex is evil, then not only is SL doomed, but so is RL!!!

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One thing I can think could be worse?  This was mentioned to me recently --- if Disney was acquiring LL. Their main thing is to monetize everything. If it don't make money, shut it down.  What they did to the WBS chat back in the late 90s. Was a cool platform and after they bought it, it was gone a year later. Disney is also very protective of their intellectual property. In our bar there was a WW II poster with Mickey holding a beer that's been up since the early 60s when the place opened and last year one of their legal team had us take it down. Although the poster was over 70 years old, it was probably made by someone other then Disney himself.

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I'm certain adult activities will not be effected by this. To the chagrin of Any company that Linden Lab works with, Sex sells a lot - Hell, we have an entire *****ing continent dedicated to it - Zindra - to deny the residents full (virtual) bodily autonomy within their legal rights as adults would at best just be an insult to the whole point of SL, and at worst, would cause catastrophic damage to the economy of SL. It wouldn't be the end of the world (immediately), but I know I'd probably spend less time in SL knowing I couldn't get dirty with some of my friends-with-benefits.

3 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said:

One thing I can think could be worse?  This was mentioned to me recently --- if Disney was acquiring LL.

Disney wouldn't touch Linden Lab and Second Life thereby with a bargepole. I would make damn sure of that myself, as would any upstanding resident. The Disney Corporation is a parasite that if I found it bleeding out and dying, would just sit there and laugh at it.

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The biggest headache may be getting state approval for the new investors to acquire Tilia's money transfer licenses. In California, for example, that's not just paperwork - it involves meetings, background checks, etc. Here's the entire list of requirements, state by state. It takes some action in each state, and state governments are rather busy right now with bigger problems. This is what you have to do to handle other people's money.

Or they might merge Tilia into one of Waterfield's financial service companies. Having Tilia owned by a bank would have certain advantages. Somewhere, there are lawyers and accountants working on this.

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6 minutes ago, ItHadToComeToThis said:

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I could care less about child avatars or the adult side of SL. I ventured into the adult side of SL a few years ago out of curiosity and found nothing but sexually starved submissives that came across somewhat similar to the zombies from dawn of the dead whenever anyone shows the slightest bit of interest, dominants who think that putting "PAY ME PIGGY" in their picks will somehow encourage everyone to take them "super serial" and noob accounts operated by sexually challenged males who can't openly admit they just want a piece of that futa action.

Child AV's are not something I particularly care for, but as a member of the Adult Community, I have to express that what you experienced is only scratching the surface. We develop friendships and relationships. We shop with each other. We hurt when a friend gets hurt. We help each other. We are happy when a friend experiences something positive. We are just as human as someone G!!! The sex is just a part of it...like RL...

 

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1 hour ago, Bagnu said:

I have already begun encouraging my friends to make e-mail addresses based purely on our AV's (i.e. no RL info at all), so we can keep in touch, and migrate somewhere else if necessary. I think I'm being paranoid though. But if SL does go against adult content, I'm sure there will be someplace more than willing to accept our community!!!

There are other places already like red light center. its another place similar to sl but geared more towards adult play.

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Substituting the user's avatar with a "game appropriate" avatar might enhance the pure gaming experience of some SL users, and might thereby expand the SL user base into the demographic of those who for some reason lack for other choice of game. Honestly, I think casual gaming in a mobile version of SL is exactly equally practical.

But who knows what the new guys think? The game-centric view is very Rod-reminiscent, whereas M had a nasty case of Enterprise Envy, and Ebbe inherited the VR albatross. (Philip? I dunno. He seemed to see everything as "internet radio" one way or another, all through the prism of lazy libertarianism.) They were CEOs, not owners, but those CEOs sold those ideas to the board of investors directors, so it's kinda the same thing.

I think they'd only consider curtailing Adult content if it was necessary for some much bigger objective -- an objective that SL's current users might not value, however they feel about Adult content. That said, Adult content in Second Life is kind of disappointing. It had such promise, but... maybe human sexuality is overrated.

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