Lucia Nightfire 1,705 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 The option to geolocate hosts is something that will be explored after Uplift. It isn't going to be part of the initial transition. This has been stated in the server meetings several times. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Love Zhaoying 12,461 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 hours ago, RiffRegan said: Child AVs will be banned. Investors won't want to be associated with that; far too distasteful. Best to just ban outright. But, children are the future, plus they are tasty! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Saravendi 12,493 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Well I admit I didn’t read everyone’s post on this so, I might repeat here, but it can also give a company (Linden) a huge cash infusion and new resources to grow better. Without being in the boardroom, it’s hard to predict. I do know that an asset like this being a membership it’s our loyalty, time and efforts that the we the “players” put into it. Doesn’t make sense because you can’t really dismantle it like a bricks and mortar biz. Do the only play is to make it better, faster, more robust in order to attract more paying customers. Edited July 16, 2020 by Saravendi 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ItHadToComeToThis 1,036 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Haselden said: as I said before, LSL needs to go in the dumpster before they can do anything. I'd imagine hiring staff for all these features are a pain because they don't teach LSL in colleges. I know right. No one teaches such awesome functions as llGenerateVirtualWorld or llSetupRegionForUser or the ever popular llMakeSkyHappen. God knows what LL was thinking when they made it a hard requirement that Second Life servers and viewer HAD to be coded in pure LSL 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ItHadToComeToThis 1,036 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 7:07 AM, Drakonadrgora Darkfold said: While everyone else is panicking that sl is dead or going to die about this, it may turn out better than some think. Perhaps the new company may bring new money into to sl and some improvements may happen, such as a new viewer that takes better advantage over newer hardware and software. Or perhaps other improvements long promised might finally be finished and added. Perhaps the original owners are just tired and finally want to be free of SL and the hassle of running and worrying about it anymore aka they want to retire and spend their money elsewhere. Maybe they might even think of having new viewers for different os's such as for ios and android and maybe game consoles tapping into new markets for potential members and new sources of revenue. Imagine if you owned a ps4 or xbox one and could connect and didn't need a computer anymore. Imagine using an ipad or an android tablet and connecting and have a decent sl experience; it would open up the ability to play sl from so many other places. But all of this is just hopeful and positive thinking. Which really is futile and pointless for none of that is going to happen at the end of the day. SL is going to die out or be changed in such a manner that it will drive people away from it. Newer higher prices for things on the store, less lindens per dollar bought, newer higher prices to own sims, less accounts per email, less groups for normal users, more data mining meaning you need to provide proof of age or income to be allowed in adult regions, maybe an implementation of real id, where they expect you to send them proof of who you really are in real life for legal reasons. maybe they might even change profiles and make it show your real gender and age so no more spoofing on the forums or in world. Maybe they will start to add in advertisements to everything you buy on the market place, you open the item and get a big add slapped in your face. Voice will become a premium only feature, being in adult locations will become a premium only feature. Having more then one account per email will become a premium feature, allowing more than one email per ip address will become a premium feature. Who knows, and at the end of the day none of it matters. What happens will happen and either you continue to play or your leave, either way they wont really care as much as some like to think they will. Yeah such as killing off that stupid chat UI in the linden viewer 😅 Link to post Share on other sites
Coffee Pancake 5,343 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Rathgrith027 said: That amounts to instancing, which goes against SL's core design principles. SL is built upon a number of assumptions & principals that with hindsight have held the platform back and make it unattractive/cumbersome for developing certain types of experience. The shared experience mantra makes many mechanics impossible (especially those requiring a shared space have more than a single purpose). A shift to running things on the client (like physics & some object scripting) might come with a high backwards compatibility burden, but in the long term the gains would be staggering. Combine this with revoking absolute avatar autonomy on private regions (you decide your avatar all the time) and allowing complete location dependent avatar substitution (your bespoke personal AV is simply not used in favor of one specified by the region) would go a long way towards making SL a place where genuine game experiences could be created. There is also an attitude of distrust between the service provider and it's users, lots of things are kept off the table as we just can't be trusted not to make grif (like custom shaders), where as an approach that enables greater content capabilities but restricts it's use to wholly owned private regions would transfer responsibility to someone who's paying. Grif isn't fun if it costs $300 a month and only works in one place. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Iren Tinkel 41 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 atm SL is slow as freaking hell 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alwin Alcott 11,592 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Iren Tinkel said: atm SL is slow as freaking hell and thats the investors to blame? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Syo Emerald 5,865 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 10 hours ago, RiffRegan said: Child AVs will be banned. Investors won't want to be associated with that; far too distasteful. Best to just ban outright. But the porn stays? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Iren Tinkel 41 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: and thats the investors to blame? no idea Link to post Share on other sites
Love Zhaoying 12,461 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: and thats the investors to blame? No, it's all the pr0n. 6 minutes ago, Syo Emerald said: But the porn stays? Yes! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Love Zhaoying 12,461 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, CoffeeDujour said: A shift to running things on the client (like physics & some object scripting) might come with a high backwards compatibility burden Wouldn't shifting things to the client mean even more issues getting a decent mobile client? Link to post Share on other sites
Love Zhaoying 12,461 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, CoffeeDujour said: we just can't be trusted not to make grif (like custom shaders), where as an approach that enables greater content capabilities but restricts it's use to wholly owned private regions would transfer responsibility to someone who's paying. Grif isn't fun if it costs $300 a month and only works in one place. Google failed to tell me what Grif is. Could you please? Link to post Share on other sites
WinTrain 42 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well, worse case scenario... They shut down Secondlife within the next 10 years, and all the creators, and users go to Avination or some other virtual world that will be around. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alwin Alcott 11,592 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Bagnu said: . I'm more worried about adult content. a better regulation would be totally welcome, same in forum content for those promoting/advertising that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
foneco Zuzu 412 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Worst case scenario, RL ends sooner! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
foneco Zuzu 412 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: a better regulation would be totally welcome, same in forum content for those promoting/advertising that. Sex is part of human nature; SL gave many the once in a life opportunity to fulfill their erotic dreams, to deny that now it will be a sign of madness and fanaticism that we already have to much in rl. PS. Sl is already a platform that allows education roles to be fulfilled as much as sexual dreams, one does not need to kill none of those. Edited July 16, 2020 by foneco Zuzu 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Syo Emerald 5,865 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: a better regulation would be totally welcome, same in forum content for those promoting/advertising that. That sounds like you have an idea what should be better regulated and in what way. Link to post Share on other sites
Alwin Alcott 11,592 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Syo Emerald said: That sounds like you have an idea what should be better regulated and in what way. yep .. not only a checkbox to enter adult regions or specificly looking for adult in mp/destinations (and so on) but also a checkbox if you actually want to get the meat slapped in your face all the time when doing a buy/search or open a mp page/destination/classified Same with the content on the forums, adult destinations, whore house /escort house employments where it belongs: the adult section. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Iren Tinkel 41 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: yep .. not only a checkbox to enter adult regions or specificly looking for adult in mp/destinations (and so on) but also a checkbox if you actually want to get the meat slapped in your face all the time when doing a buy/search or open a mp page/destination/classified Same with the content on the forums, adult destinations, whore house /escort house employments where it belongs: the adult section. You can toggle maturity level while buy/search and meat wont be slapped in your face. The ones who dont want any sexual content just exclude Adult and even moderate and enjoy. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Alwin Alcott 11,592 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Iren Tinkel said: . The ones who dont want any sexual content just exclude Adult and even moderate and enjoy. yes, but adult doesn't always mean sexual ..all adult disappears Link to post Share on other sites
foneco Zuzu 412 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Iren Tinkel said: You can toggle maturity level while buy/search and meat wont be slapped in your face. The ones who dont want any sexual content just exclude Adult and even moderate and enjoy. Yes but for that one really needs to have a straight forward open mentality that seems to lack on this topic in 2 many ways. Link to post Share on other sites
Ardy Lay 747 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Tell us what remains when sexual content is filtered out of the adult category. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Garnet Psaltery 7,692 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Iren Tinkel said: You can toggle maturity level while buy/search and meat wont be slapped in your face. The ones who dont want any sexual content just exclude Adult and even moderate and enjoy. That's the ideal but, sadly, it all depends on the integrity of the person setting up shop or place to visit. Some people just do not think rules apply to them. Edited July 16, 2020 by Garnet Psaltery Link to post Share on other sites
wesleytron 158 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Garnet Psaltery said: it all depends on the integrity of the person setting up shop or place to visit. Some people just do not think rules apply to them. Introducing more stringent measures probably wouldn't change that. Edited July 16, 2020 by wesleytron Link to post Share on other sites
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