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LittleMe Jewell
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Ignore them -- and always wear BOM panties/bras so they have nothing to look at

Persephone Emerald
Persephone Emerald

I like having the ability to derender noisy babies and pets, which would have to be handled the same way as mesh clothing.

Ceka Cianci
Ceka Cianci

This whole thing Smells to Coffee!! \o/

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Scylla Rhiadra

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Well . . .

I mean, I wear BOM panties pretty much all the time, and a bra when it doesn't ruin the line of my dress or top, for pretty much the same reason, I suppose, that I wear anything in SL. It's part of my outfit. And why flash people if you don't need to?

But I'll admit that this is not something I worry a great deal about. While I think it's silly to say "its just pixels," as though how we look in SL doesn't matter to us (for most of us, after all, it does), it's also a little silly to get too worked up over this.

The guy who is derendering clothes is undoubtedly an infantile, sleazy creep. He probably tries to look down the top of the barista at Starbucks in RL. Someone who does this is saying a lot about themselves.

But . . . that's on him. It doesn't really impact on me.

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Persephone Emerald

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6 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

If you are in a mood to see flesh that you can't touch, isn't it a lot easier to google a porn clip, than trying to derender someones clothes in SL?

There is of course all kinds of porn free online, but people have different kinks. Sometimes they might like to see anime or SL porn, which is available on PornHub. Sometimes they might like spying on avatars, and there are plenty of places for that in SL. I wouldn't get a kick from derendering an avatar's mesh clothing, but can imagine there are people who would. 

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Tarik Darkheart

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As many others have said the solution is easy - wear bom underwear and/or use alphas.

Also these people do such things in order to make their sad and lonely lives a bit less miserable by inciting shock and horror in others - deny them those reactions and they will shrivel up and go away.

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Persephone Emerald

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10 minutes ago, Kalegthepsionicist said:

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/schediaphilia

What upsets you more - depictions of cartoon sex or of cartoon violence? What is more immoral from your perspective - people pretending to have sex with their cartoon avatars or people insulting others for their perceived race, gender, political views, etc.?

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Kalegthepsionicist

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11 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

What upsets you more - depictions of cartoon sex or of cartoon violence? What is more immoral from your perspective - people pretending to have sex with their cartoon avatars or people insulting others for their perceived race, gender, political views, etc.?

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who mad ?

you ?

what upset me ?

people insulting me I upset I dont  care with their own things . I m not activist.

what I write before is oppinion, suggestion. tomorrow I forget it.

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Maitimo

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4 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

As for the tangent concerning the Viewer being able to tell what is and isn't being used as clothing for an Avatar: No - 

Actually it can. You can prove this by taking a mesh object that is set to BOM, and rezzing it on the ground instead of wearing it. When rezzed, the BOM feature is disabled and you see only the placeholder texture. And this wasn't always the case; when BOM first came out, the BOM texture could be seen whether the mesh was worn or not, but it was changed, apparently because of an exploit that would allow people to copy textures.

Scripts can identify the difference too; you may have seen this sometimes in items that are meant to be worn and rezzing is disallowed; the item gives a warning then poofs. 

So it IS possible for the viewer (or the server, I'm not sure which) to identify the difference. Which means that it should be possible to disallow de-rendering of worn objects whilst retaining the ability for objects rezzed in-world.

This would be a suggestion to forward to the Firestorm developer team.

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8 minutes ago, Maitimo said:

Actually it can. You can prove this by taking a mesh object that is set to BOM, and rezzing it on the ground instead of wearing it. When rezzed, the BOM feature is disabled and you see only the placeholder texture. And this wasn't always the case; when BOM first came out, the BOM texture could be seen whether the mesh was worn or not, but it was changed, apparently because of an exploit that would allow people to copy textures.

Scripts can identify the difference too; you may have seen this sometimes in items that are meant to be worn and rezzing is disallowed; the item gives a warning then poofs. 

So it IS possible for the viewer (or the server, I'm not sure which) to identify the difference. Which means that it should be possible to disallow de-rendering of worn objects whilst retaining the ability for objects rezzed in-world.

This would be a suggestion to forward to the Firestorm developer team.

BOM - This is not showcasing that the Viewer or server is capable of knowing what is and is not being used as Clothing, it is showing that they are capable of knowing if an object is attached to an Avatar. The two are not the same.

The anti-rez scripts? Same thing, done using script trickery.

The system has no way to know if an object being worn on a given attachment point is being worn as an article of clothing - it is an object, attached to a point on the Avatar. That is all it knows.

The "suggestion" concerned clothing items - not attached/worn objects in general.

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6 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

BOM - This is not showcasing that the Viewer or server is capable of knowing what is and is not being used as Clothing, it is showing that they are capable of knowing if an object is attached to an Avatar. The two are not the same.

The anti-rez scripts? Same thing, done using script trickery.

The system has no way to know if an object being worn on a given attachment point is being worn as an article of clothing - it is an object, attached to a point on the Avatar. That is all it knows.

The "suggestion" concerned clothing items - not attached/worn objects in general.

All mesh clothing comprises attached items.  Disable the de-rendering of any/all attached items (whether classified as clothing or not) will achieve the desired result.

Of course this will also disable the ability to de-render attached hair, head, body, pets, particle-poofers etc, so it would likely nd up causing more problems than it cures.  So the odds of Firestorm actually doing it are slim to none.

 

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Coffee Pancake

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4 hours ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

The Linden Lab viewer doesn't allow derendering at all. Perhaps that request is better aimed at viewer developers that do.

We explicitly don't allow the derendering of attachments in Catznip. Specifically because it would enable this nonsense. So don't look at us !!

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