Anna Nova Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I am pretty sure that I went to an island in SL somewhere, and there was a complete set of Human Proportioning tools rezzed there. But attempts to find it in my inventory, or by searching, both here and in-world have failed. Does anyone remember such a thing, or do I put it down to dementia? (I''m 27...) I know there are tools in MP, but that's not what I am trying to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Anna Nova said: I am pretty sure that I went to an island in SL somewhere, and there was a complete set of Human Proportioning tools rezzed there. But attempts to find it in my inventory, or by searching, both here and in-world have failed. Does anyone remember such a thing, or do I put it down to dementia? (I''m 27...) I know there are tools in MP, but that's not what I am trying to find. This is the place I've gone to to check my proportions. I think @Skell Daggerposted it here awhile back. I've sent a few people there, too. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/NoYourOtherLeft/126/99/402 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Krokus Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I have something called Vitruvian Shapes - Set 1.22 full perms in my inventory which includes sample shapes and a height detector tool. It was distributed by Penny Patton at some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay McDowwll Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I know they have mockups in the new user tutorial at Caledon, but I'm not sure if it's an actual tool, or just something you can stand beside. Actually, bored now (I'm in "hurry up and wait" mode with RL atm), so I'll send in my newbie alt to check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay McDowwll Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It's an actual tool you can sit on Picture below -- located at the School of Avatar Customization in Caledon: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Caledon Oxbridge/209/141/27 9 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Heartsong Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) I have one in my MP store as well for 10L either male or female. I know that's not what you're looking for, but reach out to me in world and I'll send it to you free. Anytime anyone wants to realistic in terms of proportions, I'm all for it! First fix anyone can do? For a female avatar? Make sure your crotch is exactly 1/2 way up your total body height, not up where you belly button is, which is the way most female avatars look in SL. The usual female avatar look in SL is a tiny head, unrealistically short torso and hips, and legs up to your armpits. Edited January 28, 2022 by Katherine Heartsong 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelon Alcott Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Ajay McDowwll said: It's an actual tool you can sit on Picture below -- located at the School of Avatar Customization in Caledon: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Caledon Oxbridge/209/141/27 Loved this tool. It is great that it automatically adjusts to your avatar, for ease of use and checking your body proportions. Thanks for sharing! I found out that the trapezius on my avatar is too tall, which pushes my neck and head higher than "ideal", but unfortunately it does not look like any of the appearance shape sliders allow adjustment of that body part. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 [sarcastic mode] A Kupra body with maxed out sliders seems to solve the problem of more and more people in SL these days. [/sarcastic mode] 1 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charalyne Blackwood Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Katherine Heartsong said: I have one in my MP store as well for 10L either male or female. I know that's not what you're looking for, but reach out to me in world and I'll send it to you free. Anytime anyone wants to realistic in terms of proportions, I'm all for it! First fix anyone can do? For a female avatar? Make sure your crotch is exactly 1/2 way up your total body height, not up where you belly button is, which is the way most female avatars look in SL. The usual female avatar look in SL is a tiny head, unrealistically short torso and hips, and legs up to your armpits. And really short arms...sort of a Tyrannosaurus Sex 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just had to go check myself. My av is 6'1" so only slightly less than the example but I seem to be in fairly good proportion. This place also gives a notecard explaining body proportions. https://gyazo.com/97fa9f8420f7ed15781504e114328bda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charalyne Blackwood Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Just had to go check myself. My av is 6'1" so only slightly less than the example but I seem to be in fairly good proportion. This place also gives a notecard explaining body proportions. https://gyazo.com/97fa9f8420f7ed15781504e114328bda I went there earlier...with my avi at 5'5" it didn't really line up with the picture of "small", but I did take notes and only need to do a little adjustment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Charalyne Blackwood said: I went there earlier...with my avi at 5'5" it didn't really line up with the picture of "small", but I did take notes and only need to do a little adjustment As long as you're relatively close, I'm sure it's fine. Some people have longer torsos or shorter legs. A friend of mine is 6 foot tall in real life but her legs are a lot shorter than mine and I'm 5'9". She has a way longer torso than I have. People are different. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay McDowwll Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Echelon Alcott said: I found out that the trapezius on my avatar is too tall, which pushes my neck and head higher than "ideal", but unfortunately it does not look like any of the appearance shape sliders allow adjustment of that body part. Yeah, sometimes the way the bodies are rigged makes it impossible to get perfectly proportional. I think that alt's arms are pretty much maxed out, and still slightly short according to the picture? But as long as we're not wandering around as tiny-headed giraffe-necked T-rexes, I think we're all doing well 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise Glendevon Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I would love a rezzable version of this for my home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said: I would love a rezzable version of this for my home. So that you can test guests before you allow them in the front door! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Ajay McDowwll said: It's an actual tool you can sit on Picture below -- located at the School of Avatar Customization in Caledon: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Caledon Oxbridge/209/141/27 Wow. I had no idea this was a thing. I made my own simple "tools" for this a long time ago (coloured, semi-transparent and phantom prims), but this looks really great! Thanks for posting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I ran into the problem of getting proportions right. I built my own adjustable one and put it in the marketplace. Later I made one for faces. I found that camera settings made getting correct facial proportions way more difficult. So it got rather complicated. Making these for personal use is easy. Grab an image like Leonardo's or the above and stick it on a prim cube. Size the cube and set it to phantom and you are good to go. In some cases it is easier to WEAR the cube. But I generally rez it and then walk into it. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajay McDowwll Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Wow. I had no idea this was a thing. I made my own simple "tools" for this a long time ago (coloured, semi-transparent and phantom prims), but this looks really great! Thanks for posting! Sure! My favorite proportion tool is the Nanogunk proportion tool available on Marketplace. Every single one of my avatars has it, because I never know when I may want to tweak something... ... it's possible I get a little OCD about this stuff lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charalyne Blackwood Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ajay McDowwll said: Sure! My favorite proportion tool is the Nanogunk proportion tool available on Marketplace. Every single one of my avatars has it, because I never know when I may want to tweak something... ... it's possible I get a little OCD about this stuff lol CDO...OCD is NOT in alphabetical order! OMG I need therapy or something...🤣 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiyumei Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Wow. I had no idea this was a thing. I made my own simple "tools" for this a long time ago (coloured, semi-transparent and phantom prims), but this looks really great! Thanks for posting! You, me and many, many other people judging of the body proportions I tend to see around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Nova Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: This is the place I've gone to to check my proportions. I think @Skell Daggerposted it here awhile back. I've sent a few people there, too. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/NoYourOtherLeft/126/99/402 This is the one I remembered. It's not for me, but I am trying to make a male, and being a tiny female myself my own view of males is perspective-skewed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conifer Dada Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) I did my proportions by comparing myself with photos and scaled diagrams of real women with the appropriate proportions, as used by artists. One side issue of this is that when I go to venues I sometimes start questioning my proportions because so many other avatars have exaggerated shapes. Like when most of the women around me have hips three times the width of their waists while my hips are only about 1.333 (recurring) times as wide as my waist!! Am I the one that's out of step with the SL aesthetic? Edited January 29, 2022 by Conifer Dada 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjartanEno Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 hours ago, Ajay McDowwll said: My favorite proportion tool is the Nanogunk proportion tool available on Marketplace. I've been working with the 8 heads rule-of-thumb for a long time. Search for "shape tools" in the marketplace, and you'll likely see a free product that comes with a few items, and that's been my main guide for a while now. The Nanogunk product caught my eye yesterday. There's no demo, and I don't like buying things untested. I went ahead and bought it. It's great! Not only does it help with the height proportions, but the shoulder and hip width guides are also good. 1 hour ago, Conifer Dada said: Am I the one that's out of step with the SL aesthetic? But what if the aesthetic is based on a perspective that distorts one's perceptions with a wide angle camera placed above a natural viewing height and most shapes are made to compensate for that default view? I'm sure psychologists could comment on why certain body parts get enlarged on males and females as well... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 There is a nice proportioning tool that was available as a freebie in the Maitreya Lara Friends support group, called the Baskerville Proportioning Tool. I didn't see it, looking in the group notices just now, but if you joined and asked, they would probably refresh that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tess Falworth Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hmm.. I learned human proportions in basic art 101 in 7th grade..pretty much this. Didn't know people actually needed tools to get this? That tool is cool though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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