Do you need to vent about things COVID-19?

[Rat Luv]

@iceing BraveheartOh I agree it is physically possible. I just don't think the UN are going to secretly microchip us. What would be the point if we don't know we've got the microchips? 

But this is maybe getting a bit off topic 

[iceing Braveheart]

2 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

@iceing BraveheartOh I agree it is physically possible. I just don't think the UN are going to secretly microchip us. What would be the point if we don't know we've got the microchips? 

But this is maybe getting a bit off topic 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-woman-arrested-filming-inside-empty-hospital

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/covid-mutation-stories-show-lockdowns-are-designed-last-forever

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-passports-could-be-mandatory-travel-shopping-and-even-movies-cnn-says

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/er-nurse-tests-positive-covid-8-days-after-being-vaccinated

https://www.infowars.com/posts/canadian-minister-jetted-to-caribbean-while-lecturing-people-to-sacrifice-holidays/

https://www.infowars.com/posts/nhs-requires-recently-retired-doctors-to-have-diversity-training-before-theyre-allowed-to-administer-vaccines/

Edited December 31, 2020 by iceing Braveheart

[Qie Niangao]

7 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

The entire safety net (Social Security Et Al.) needs an overhaul - that is the bottom line. As it stands right now, a rather large portion of the country is finally having their eyes opened.

You'd think.

With so many having lost their jobs and so many more who are (or should be) in mortal fear of losing theirs, what's the appeal of "employer sponsored" health insurance?

Are those who remain employed really stupid enough to think the employer "sponsors" that insurance like some beneficent rich uncle, rather than taking a corresponding reduction in what wages the employee would otherwise earn?

Admittedly, my politics has shifted steadily leftward my whole life, but the heartless ravages of this pandemic on so many Americans* has pushed me past "single-payer insurance" to "nationalized medicine."

In this the US healthcare system has shamefully failed its patients and practitioners alike.

__________
* and some Canadians, too, although the "safety net" is a little more real up here and, to be fair, we've had a merely tragic catastrophe of a pandemic, compared to the bloodbath in the States.

[Maryanne Solo]

Were back to shutdowns of a couple of areas in a couple of states but the numbers have returned to single figures of new detections in about a week.
It is so mind numbingly heartbreaking to witness what is going on in other countries.

[JanuarySwan]

9 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

The entire safety net (Social Security Et Al.) needs an overhaul - that is the bottom line. As it stands right now, a rather large portion of the country is finally having their eyes opened.

I'll not be holding my breath in anticipation of that supposed increase, by the by.

ETA: Also, yes it most certainly is a "Stimulus" - it is a second, one time payment. 

It is not a stimulus for all I meant as most other states other than California are curfewed with bars needing to close by 10 or 11 p.m., that is not a lockdown nor a partial lockdown, that is ridiculous.  Not to mention the soap opera in Washington has kept a lot of the news focused on their craziness, people are falling through the cracks here in a "funding gap" meaning the $600 is all they will have to pay for food, heating, rent, etc.  

Unemployment needs a major overhaul as does monies for those who are disabled.  Three wrongs don't make a right either.

I'm not here to argue either.

Happy New Year, too.

Edited December 31, 2020 by JanuarySwan

[Theresa Tennyson]

3 hours ago, iceing Braveheart said:

buzz feed again...

 

Why would the deep state go to the trouble of developing a secret tracking chip system when most people in the developed world carry a far more effective tracking device everywhere they go and pay hundreds of dollars a year for the privilege of doing so?

[Rowan Amore]

[FairreLilette]

Some other states may be headed for more restrictions, perhaps lockdown too...but if they have to sign up for unemployment again, it could take 2-3 weeks before benefits kick in.  There are articles this morning saying the 2K should have been targeted.  Should have been, could have been, it doesn't help matters much.  

[Madelaine McMasters]

4 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

@iceing BraveheartOh I agree it is physically possible. I just don't think the UN are going to secretly microchip us. What would be the point if we don't know we've got the microchips? 

But this is maybe getting a bit off topic 

As Theresa noted, most humans are already carrying wonderful tracking devices, smartphones. Those things can be tracked anywhere there is cellular coverage, and we can't live without 'em. Embedded microchips can only be tracked when they come in very close proximity to scanners. Covertly blanketing the planet with scanners is simply impossible. Blanketing the planet with cellular coverage is a well advertised goal. The entire idea of secret microchipping is nonsense that caters to the fears of the technologically ignorant (most of us).

It is unfortunate that those most fearful of imagined threats are often the most vulnerable to actual ones. Mining fear is a multi-billion dollar industry, draining people of money and privacy drip-by-drip. I've an elderly neighbor who pays about $500/yr for identify theft protection, and who has called me twice over the last decade, in a panic, because that service has accidentally leaked sensitive information about him onto the web. Yet he persists, against my recommendation to drop the service and freeze his own credit, because "They're the only people who can keep me safe".

[Love Zhaoying]

4 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

@iceing BraveheartOh I agree it is physically possible. I just don't think the UN are going to secretly microchip us. What would be the point if we don't know we've got the microchips? 

But this is maybe getting a bit off topic 

Since new microchips must be released each year, next year's chips will be code-named COVID-21.

[FairreLilette]

Bob Dylan was talking 'bout "the phone's tapped anyway" what 60 years ago at least in "Subterranean Homesick Blues".

 

Plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the D.A. Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes

 

 

[Scylla Rhiadra]

36 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

As Theresa noted, most humans are already carrying wonderful tracking devices, smartphones. Those things can be tracked anywhere there is cellular coverage, and we can't live without 'em. Embedded microchips can only be tracked when they come in very close proximity to scanners. Covertly blanketing the planet with scanners is simply impossible. Blanketing the planet with cellular coverage is a well advertised goal. The entire idea of secret microchipping is nonsense that caters to the fears of the technologically ignorant (most of us).

It is unfortunate that those most fearful of imagined threats are often the most vulnerable to actual ones. Mining fear is a multi-billion dollar industry, draining people of money and privacy drip-by-drip. I've an elderly neighbor who pays about $500/yr for identify theft protection, and who has called me twice over the last decade, in a panic, because that service has accidentally leaked sensitive information about him onto the web. Yet he persists, against my recommendation to drop the service and freeze his own credit, because "They're the only people who can keep me safe".

The other element of the threat to privacy that people tend to misidentify is its source.

As is suggested by your comments, those who are tracking and harvesting us online aren't the government. They are corporations, and not just the big social media companies, who are, after all, selling the data they mine to anyone willing to buy it.

At least democratically elected governments are a little susceptible to public pressure and the concerns of privacy specialists. As for corporations, they don't need to worry about that: as you point out, we're all happy to pay for the privilege of being tracked by them.

[Silent Mistwalker]

13 hours ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

As Theresa noted, most humans are already carrying wonderful tracking devices, smartphones. Those things can be tracked anywhere there is cellular coverage, and we can't live without 'em. Embedded microchips can only be tracked when they come in very close proximity to scanners. Covertly blanketing the planet with scanners is simply impossible. Blanketing the planet with cellular coverage is a well advertised goal. The entire idea of secret microchipping is nonsense that caters to the fears of the technologically ignorant (most of us).

It is unfortunate that those most fearful of imagined threats are often the most vulnerable to actual ones. Mining fear is a multi-billion dollar industry, draining people of money and privacy drip-by-drip. I've an elderly neighbor who pays about $500/yr for identify theft protection, and who has called me twice over the last decade, in a panic, because that service has accidentally leaked sensitive information about him onto the web. Yet he persists, against my recommendation to drop the service and freeze his own credit, because "They're the only people who can keep me safe".

Those weren't accidental leaks. The 3 major credit reporting agencies who also offer identity theft protection (through subsidiaries) have been hacked tons of times over the past 5 years. I know this because I worked one of the call centers dealing with the legal aspects of one of the Equifax hackings. That major one they had a few years ago when millions of people worldwide were exposed and Equifax lied about the number of people affected and the only compensation they offered was ONE free year of identity theft protection.

The whole thing is a scam.

Edited January 1, 2021 by Silent Mistwalker

[Rat Luv]

No offence @Madelaine McMasters  - could you aim that at the person who's spreading this microchip conspiraloonery because if you check my posts, I'm arguing against it, it's the silliest thing I've heard. Thanks. 

[Madelaine McMasters]

1 hour ago, Rat Luv said:

No offence @Madelaine McMasters  - could you aim that at the person who's spreading this microchip conspiraloonery because if you check my posts, I'm arguing against it, it's the silliest thing I've heard. Thanks. 

I know you were arguing against it. I was agreeing with you!

[Luna Bliss]

On 12/31/2020 at 6:32 AM, iceing Braveheart said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-woman-arrested-filming-inside-empty-hospital

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/covid-mutation-stories-show-lockdowns-are-designed-last-forever

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccine-passports-could-be-mandatory-travel-shopping-and-even-movies-cnn-says

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/er-nurse-tests-positive-covid-8-days-after-being-vaccinated

https://www.infowars.com/posts/canadian-minister-jetted-to-caribbean-while-lecturing-people-to-sacrifice-holidays/

https://www.infowars.com/posts/nhs-requires-recently-retired-doctors-to-have-diversity-training-before-theyre-allowed-to-administer-vaccines/

I don't doubt that there are people with money and power who take advantage of those with less power and money. But what is it about zerohedge and infowars that causes you to trust they have the truth regarding who is taking advantage of us and how to counter it?

[Luna Bliss]

Regarding the discussion of social safety nets and why they are failing us in times of Covid and why they will in the future:

Why Doesn’t The US Have A European-Style Welfare State?

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/glaeser/files/why_doesnt_the_u.s._have_a_european-style_welfare_state.pdf

"Our bottom line is that Americans redistribute less than Europeans because (1) the majority believes that redistribution favors racial minorities, (2) Americans believe that they live in an open and fair society and that if someone is poor it is their own fault, and(3) the political system is geared towards preventing redistribution. In fact the political system is likely to be endogenous to these basic American beliefs".

[Ceka Cianci]

Welp, I may have it.. I'm not sure yet, but got a text last night from a friend that tested positive that was over just a couple days ago..

Time to go make me some super juice..hehehe

[iceing Braveheart]

On 12/30/2020 at 8:36 PM, Rat Luv said:

But all the examples in that link are in lobbies, outside in the car park or in corridors, so the nurses might not even be on shift at that time. I agree it'd be vile if they were dancing around the patients or when they were supposed to be working, but they may be getting ready for their shift or have just come off it.

I couldn't do that job for a week, so I won't criticise how they let off steam. And nobody criticises the police for doing TikToks (I'm not saying people should btw)...

Though personally, I'm not sure how I feel about them putting it online. Even without COVID, I'd be upset if a loved one died in an ICU and I then saw nurses dancing in the same ward. But they are people too, not robots, and that link seems a bit biased IMO. 

http://theresistance.video/watch?id=5fee55015b1d5820e13859a3

[Rat Luv]

2 hours ago, iceing Braveheart said:

http://theresistance.video/watch?id=5fee55015b1d5820e13859a3

OK, now I KNOW you're messing around (thank God!)  You got me 

[iceing Braveheart]

4 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

OK, now I KNOW you're messing around (thank God!)  You got me 

BoJo Deploys Military To Help Secure UK Schools Against COVID As Cases Surge | ZeroHedge

[Rat Luv]

2 hours ago, iceing Braveheart said:

BoJo Deploys Military To Help Secure UK Schools Against COVID As Cases Surge | ZeroHedge

Yes, the army will be helping out with vacccinations, it's not a secret? They support the emergency services in crises, it's their job. They're not going to be patrolling the corridors in camo face paint, aiming guns at kids 

If you are taking these sites seriously, please realise they care more about clicks than you being safe and healthy! Anyway, I'll bow out now as this is way off topic, but stay safe 

[Qie Niangao]

I think it's pretty hilarious that anybody buys into the vaccine conspiracy theories that presume a level of competence in their distribution and administration, given the record. I mean, many are referring to the same colossally inept administration that could only erect a few miles of a simple border wall after four years and billions of misappropriated taxpayer dollars.

And the military? Good god. Consider the recent vaccination performance of the West Virginia National Guard.

(The good part of this story is that apparently there's so much Regeneron monoclonal antibody cocktail sloshing around the country that 44 doses can be accidentally distributed instead of vaccine -- in West Virginia, of all places. The flip side, though: how many hospitalized COVID patients will die while the lifesaving treatment is stockpiled by a government too inept to get it in their IV drips?)

[Gage Wirefly]

Apparently NY state is mulling legislation to put COVID carries in detention centers.  🤯

Article: https://www.rt.com/usa/511357-new-york-covid-detention-health-bill/

 

Link to actual legislation for the NY state government

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

[iceing Braveheart]

7 hours ago, Rat Luv said:

Yes, the army will be helping out with vacccinations, it's not a secret? They support the emergency services in crises, it's their job. They're not going to be patrolling the corridors in camo face paint, aiming guns at kids 

If you are taking these sites seriously, please realise they care more about clicks than you being safe and healthy! Anyway, I'll bow out now as this is way off topic, but stay safe 

Teachers Union Leader Battles to Keep Schools Closed — While on Vacation in the Caribbean