Thunes to acquire payments platform Tilia LLC

[Zalificent Corvinus]

3 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

P.S. I know you're too smart to have taken those "must be logged into SL" posts seriously. I sure didn't, they seemed like a joke to me. 

I've seen too much ill intentioned drek posted on these forums, and then back-pedaled with "is joke, ur too stoopid to get mah quirky sense of hoomaah" by people who have consistently demonstrated that they don't HAVE a sense of humour.

 

So, how about an alternative, a posting fee for anyone with a rez date priorr to 2011, L$1000 for every year by which their rez date precedes 2011.

Rez date 2010, L$1000 a post, rez date 2009, L$2000 a post, rez date 2006, L$5000 a post..

Sounds legit?

 

PS. "is joke" No! Really!

Edited April 29 by Zalificent Corvinus

[Love Zhaoying]

Just now, Zalificent Corvinus said:

I've seen too much ill intentioned drek posted on these forums, and then back-pedaled with "is joke, ur too stoopid to get mah quirky sense of hoomaah" by people who have consistently demonstrated that they don't HAVE a sense of humour.

 

So, how about an alternative, a posting fee for anyone with a rez date priorr to 2011, L$100 or every year by which their rez date precedes 2011.

Rez date 2010, L$1000 a post, rez date 2009, L$2000 a post, rez date 2006, L$5000 a post..

Sounds legit?

 

PS. "is joke" No! Really!

Easy to get around that fee by using alts!

Ok, I admit it - I thought the poster was being serious suggesting we have to be "logged in" (to SL) to post. I was incredulous. My response to them was just riffing on their idea. But I've seen more of that lately, so thanks for calling out the "gatekeepers".

 

[Sid Nagy]

5 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

I've seen too much ill intentioned drek posted on these forums, and then back-pedaled with "is joke, ur too stoopid to get mah quirky sense of hoomaah" by people who have consistently demonstrated that they don't HAVE a sense of humour.

 

So, how about an alternative, a posting fee for anyone with a rez date priorr to 2011, L$100 or every year by which their rez date precedes 2011.

Rez date 2010, L$1000 a post, rez date 2009, L$2000 a post, rez date 2006, L$5000 a post..

Sounds legit?

 

PS. "is joke" No! Really!

I think it is time to start posting with my newly made alt.

 

[sirhc DeSantis]

Fascinating. So the 'forums' really have no connection to 'in world'.  Duly Noted

[Kathlen Onyx]

18 minutes ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

Fascinating. So the 'forums' really have no connection to 'in world'.  Duly Noted

I don't think so. I've never run into anyone on the forum except one person at fogbound. I doubt anyone has ever run into me. Even at shopping events I've never seen people I know. 

[Alwin Alcott]

24 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

I think it is time to start posting with my newly made alt.

 

i'm glad i have some after those dates already ... they'r always asking when they get some time on the forums, till now always denied, but those prices might change my own TOS for them  

[Qie Niangao]

I've been wondering if anyone else can imagine that the Thunes / Linden "partnership" might involve the parties exploring online gambling again.

I certainly remember Second Life ridding itself of casinos and replacing them with "skill gaming" for a critical mass of jurisdictions where that's acceptable. Much more recently they created that in-house "social casino" that's presumably legal in some overlapping subset of jurisdictions. But surely the real money is online casinos and sports betting in those parts of the world where that's legal.

At one time gambling was a big part of the SL economy, so maybe some people would still find a virtual world an appealing setting for that activity. (Note: Casinos always generated disproportionate transaction activity—money flowing through the casinos without much other in-world spending to slow it down. That would be good business for moneychangers: the faster the money moves through the platform, the better.)

I have absolutely no idea what it would take for such a thing to happen, except that FinCen would need to track every L$ for money-laundering. It just seems as if, without exploring the possibilities, perhaps with an established casino partner, Thunes and Linden could be leaving money on the table. And that would be out of character, don't ya think?

Edited April 29 by Qie Niangao
"Thunes" not "Thune"

[Istelathis]

I've run into a few people from the forums in world 😁  I actually nearly ran @Sid Nagy over while driving around in a vehicle and exploring the Bellisseria event at the fairgrounds.  I've seen @Persephone Emerald and @Scylla Rhiadra in world as well I've seen a few others as well, I typically shy away from people in world though so I don't often chat a lot there.

 

Edited April 29 by Istelathis

[Porky Gorky]

In the "good” old days there used to be regular forum meetups in-world. I went once and met all the people. I didn't go again.

Edited April 29 by Porky Gorky

[Cinnamon Mistwood]

55 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

So, how about an alternative, a posting fee for anyone with a rez date priorr to 2011, L$100 or every year by which their rez date precedes 2011.

Rez date 2010, L$1000 a post, rez date 2009, L$2000 a post, rez date 2006, L$5000 a post..

Let me just save this post to quote out of context as often as possible for the next several years:

"Zal wants to charge up to $L5000 per post in the forums. She wants to kill the forums.  Not just kill them, but take a baseball bat to it's knees, an ax to its head, encase it in cement and drop it in the middle of the ocean!  This is the quality of posters we have here.  This is her dream for the forums!!!!!!"

Sounds legit?

Am I joking?

[sirhc DeSantis]

Yes. Posting is free if you are logged inworld.

[Persephone Emerald]

3 hours ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

Let's say you own a factory that makes widgets. You're in an out-of-the-way place so you decide to put in a cafeteria for your workers.

That means you need to buy kitchen equipment and food, and hire cooks and managers to run it. 

All in all, the cafeteria operation is losing money because the audience isn't that big and small operations are inefficient, and nobody working there is making a single blessed widget for you to sell, which is your real business. 

If you could get outside people to come to eat at the cafeteria, there's more of a chance it'll become a profit center than a liability, but you'd need to push the food thing even harder than you're already doing, meaning spending more money up front on the cafeteria and the staff will still not be making your widgets.

But, if you sold the cafeteria to an outside restaurant company it could be run more efficiently because that company already has the knowhow, staff and suppliers. 

That's basically what happened here.

My old company allowed an outside company to run it's cafeteria for some years. They were Korean and made great bi bim bop. The last place I worked allowed different restaurants to serve food a few days each week. I always looked forward to the Filipino food. 

Aside from just reminiscing, my point is that a variety of backgrounds and expertise is often a good thing, so having the experience of a company that specifically works with digital money transactions and banking is probably a good thing. They'd likely do a lousy job of running a virtual world platform, but that's ok because that's what LL seems to be good at doing.

[Persephone Emerald]

1 hour ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

Fascinating. So the 'forums' really have no connection to 'in world'.  Duly Noted

I've seen a few forum regulars decorating new Linden Homes in Bellisseria.

I'm not taking most of these suggestions seriously, but let me remind those who might that not everyone here is blessed with a high-end new computer or an ample income. Also, whenever *someone* starts complaining about oldbies, I just think this shows they haven't been in SL long enough to truly appreciate all the changes us oldbies have seen on this platform. Also, age and experience is always relative. There will always be someone older and more experienced and someone younger and less experienced than you are.

[Persephone Emerald]

3 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I will do you one better. I propose they must be logged in (I presume you mean "to Second Life"), AND have their "away" mode set so that they go into the classic "slump" / "(Away)" when alt-tabbing to the Forums.

I'll go one even better. They must be in SL and using media on a prim (a TV,  computer or phone in SL) to access and post on the SL forums. The forums are for SL users, so we must all be using them as our avatars in SL. No alts allowed, unless you're posting as said alt. Otherwise you're being fake.

[Istelathis]

9 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

I'll go one even better. They must be in SL and using media on a prim (a TV,  computer or phone in SL) to access and post on the SL forums. The forums are for SL users, so we must all be using them as our avatars in SL. No alts allowed, unless you're posting as said alt. Otherwise you're being fake.

And make it only viewable on MOAP 🙃 

 

This will have two benefits:
1. Harder for data scrapes

2. More people will be required to use mobile viewer to read the forums while AFK 

 

<insert evil laughter> 

Edited April 29 by Istelathis

[Persephone Emerald]

1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:

I've been wondering if anyone else can imagine that the Thunes / Linden "partnership" might involve the parties exploring online gambling again.

I certainly remember Second Life ridding itself of casinos and replacing them with "skill gaming" for a critical mass of jurisdictions where that's acceptable. Much more recently they created that in-house "social casino" that's presumably legal in some overlapping subset of jurisdictions. But surely the real money is online casinos and sports betting in those parts of the world where that's legal.

At one time gambling was a big part of the SL economy, so maybe some people would still find a virtual world an appealing setting for that activity. (Note: Casinos always generated disproportionate transaction activity—money flowing through the casinos without much other in-world spending to slow it down. That would be good business for moneychangers: the faster the money moves through the platform, the better.)

I have absolutely no idea what it would take for such a thing to happen, except that FinCen would need to track every L$ for money-laundering. It just seems as if, without exploring the possibilities, perhaps with an established casino partner, Thunes and Linden could be leaving money on the table. And that would be out of character, don't ya think?

Ooo, ooo! How about inworld sports betting? Imagine betting on SL horse races, wrestling, and even gladiatorial matches. In fact, why stop there? We could bet on who's going to hook up at clubs, who's going to make it into shopping events that have just opened, or how long SL partnerships are going to last.

[sirhc DeSantis]

Yes. My UUID monitor has yet to to show online any one but me. Fascinating

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

I don't think so. I've never run into anyone on the forum except one person at fogbound. I doubt anyone has ever run into me. Even at shopping events I've never seen people I know. 

Some people have run into me at my SL home.

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

Let me just save this post to quote out of context as often as possible for the next several years:

"Zal wants to charge up to $L5000 per post in the forums. She wants to kill the forums.  Not just kill them, but take a baseball bat to it's knees, an ax to its head, encase it in cement and drop it in the middle of the ocean!  This is the quality of posters we have here.  This is her dream for the forums!!!!!!"

Sounds legit?

Am I joking?

But then who will Zally ridicule?

[Love Zhaoying]

2 hours ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

Fascinating. So the 'forums' really have no connection to 'in world'.  Duly Noted

Note duly noted.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

2 hours ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

Fascinating. So the 'forums' really have no connection to 'in world'.  Duly Noted

Ok Boomer Oldbie.

[Rat Luv]

18 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

Ooo, ooo! How about inworld sports betting? Imagine betting on SL horse races

This would be brilliant  Especially if it's like Japan World Cup!

 

[Arielle Popstar]

2 hours ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

I've seen too much ill intentioned drek posted on these forums, and then back-pedaled with "is joke, ur too stoopid to get mah quirky sense of hoomaah" by people who have consistently demonstrated that they don't HAVE a sense of humour.

 

So, how about an alternative, a posting fee for anyone with a rez date priorr to 2011, L$100 or every year by which their rez date precedes 2011.

Rez date 2010, L$1000 a post, rez date 2009, L$2000 a post, rez date 2006, L$5000 a post..

Sounds legit?

 

PS. "is joke" No! Really!

meh no but I'd suggest payment for anything above 5 posts per day as more then that it becomes increasingly gibberish. It also prevents one poster from controlling the forum.

[Love Zhaoying]

Granting more posts to those who pay, creates an imbalance between those with and without the ability to pay.  Like, only allowing posting by landowners.

[Sid Nagy]

The whole paying to post is insane IMHO.
If anything, the Lab should pay us for posting. We give away great ideas and advise for free. 

 

 

Edited April 29 by Sid Nagy