Innula Zenovka Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 At yesterdays SL21B with the Product Operations team, both Derrick and Patch Linden revealed more about LL's announcement at the end of last year that the Lab is turning its attention to "the spicier side of Second Life." Without ruling out the idea completely, Derrick said there are no plans at this point to expand Zindra. However, Patch went on to explain that, Quote We have a new project that is an initiative that aims to streamline the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content to come into Second Life. It will consist of a new adult-centric welcoming experience. It will introduce them to mature content. It will primarily focus on helping them to acclimate to the platform. It is a work in progress. We've got quite a bit to do here. Along with our other various projects, it has quite a few different features to it that include community living spaces, commercial environments, continental size land masses. It's a whole new look and feel and approach to a new way that we might think of having adult community in Second Life. So we're going to, over the next six to eight months, be working on this in the background and you'll hear more about it in the future. We're super excited that we're getting to do this particular project and I think folks are going to love it. It will be an approach unique to its own, and folks both new and old will be able to come in and enjoy adult content in a new environment and setting that I think will be very fitting for it. Stay tuned, there'll be more to come in the future. 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 8 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said: are no plans at this point to expand Zindra How about "finish at all", or is that way too far outside their standard workflow? 9 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said: community living spaces, commercial environments, continental size land masses This is interesting, though. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WereBeast Alpha Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 It is interesting however some states like Texas and Kansas are limiting access to adult content in laws that have passed through will this affect those states for adult content? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaomiLocket Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 From no plans to expand Zindra, to plural continental size land masses. 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 19 minutes ago, WereBeast Alpha said: It is interesting however some states like Texas and Kansas are limiting access to adult content in laws that have passed through will this affect those states for adult content? Texas is huge, but is it big enough to block the progress for the rest of the world? And besides that, adult content isn't exactly new to Second Life, so if it is allowed now, I guess it will be allowed then too. Edited June 27 by Sid Nagy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingrid Ingersoll Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 I just hope "streamlining the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content" doesn't lead those users to think that everyone in world is there for the same reason. That might be disappointing for them and possibly a bit of a nuisance to those who aren't in sl for that. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innula Zenovka Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 (edited) 34 minutes ago, NaomiLocket said: From no plans to expand Zindra, to plural continental size land masses. 🤔 The full quote was Quote In the background, and as we've kind of alluded to before, we've been considering and thinking about other spicy-like initiatives and such. Our mission has consistently been to try to foster opportunities for creators, including those in the adult content community. Since the launch of Zindra and Horizons, we've been exploring ways to serve and expand our community of creators and folks interested in mature content. In alignment with that mission, I'm just going to say that we have a new project that is an initiative that aims to streamline the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content to come into Second Life. It will consist of a new adult-centric welcoming experience. It will introduce them to mature content. It will primarily focus on helping them acclimate to the platform. It is a work in progress. We've got quite a bit to do here. Along with our other various projects, it has quite a few different features to it that include community living spaces, commercial environments, and continental-size land masses. It's a whole new look and feel and approach to a new way that we might think of having an adult community in Second Life. So, we're going to, over the next six to eight months, be working on this in the background, and you'll hear more about it in the future. We're super excited that we're getting to do this particular project, and I think folks are going to love it. It will be an approach unique to its own, and folks both new and old will be able to come in and enjoy adult content in a new environment and setting that I think will be very fitting for it. Stay tuned; there'll be more to come in the future. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that, some 12 or so years after Zindra was built, LL would want to embark on something new, reflecting both what they've learned from Zindra and Horizons and latest building techniques and styles, rather than expand what many people (well, I did,certainly) thought at the time was a dreadful idea, poorly executed. Edited June 27 by Innula Zenovka 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 24 minutes ago, WereBeast Alpha said: some states like Texas and Kansas are limiting access to adult content I'm amazed to see that from Texas. Dallas has strip clubs the size of supermarkets. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Nightingale Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 20 minutes ago, animats said: Dallas has strip clubs the size of supermarkets. 😲 😍 Probably owned by the same people making the laws restricting access to such things online. Got to protect the profit margin people's livelihoods... 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innula Zenovka Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 44 minutes ago, WereBeast Alpha said: It is interesting however some states like Texas and Kansas are limiting access to adult content in laws that have passed through will this affect those states for adult content? They're limiting access in the sense that they're requiring age verification for sites that are primarily devoted to explicit sexual content. You'd need to ask a US lawyer, of course, but the Texas law refers to "an Internet website (including a social media platform)" of which more than one third of its content is sexual material likely to be harmful to minors, and that doesn't seem to me obviously to catch SL. It might do, but sites like PornHub are the more obvious target. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecla Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 47 minutes ago, Ingrid Ingersoll said: I just hope "streamlining the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content" doesn't lead those users to think that everyone in world is there for the same reason. That might be disappointing for them and possibly a bit of a nuisance to those who aren't in sl for that. Excellent point. Yeah, I'd hate to have new users who selected an "adult content" radio button when creating an account rez into some simulacra of 1980's Times Square. Not to mention "adult content" means different things to different people. I'm sort of wincing at the thought of LL being in charge of this experience. Ever been to the regions only accessible to premium members, one being an airport and the other a racing dirt track? They are so pathetically lame that it's comical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 46 minutes ago, Ingrid Ingersoll said: I just hope "streamlining the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content" doesn't lead those users to think that everyone in world is there for the same reason. That might be disappointing for them and possibly a bit of a nuisance to those who aren't in sl for that. Well, adult SL is like one third of the private sims and growing,, but only a small percentage of Linden owned sims is rated adult. Add that demand for adult rated land on Linden owned regions is extremely high (pricing reflects that). It´s about time that Linden Lab adresses that by expanding their offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Nightingale Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 33 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said: They're limiting access in the sense that they're requiring age verification The UK has supposedly been implementing this for the last six years or more... nothing's happened yet beyond the usual "I'm over 18, honest" button on websites that they've had for decades. Not that I would know of course! 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Marques Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 39 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said: They're limiting access in the sense that they're requiring age verification for sites that are primarily devoted to explicit sexual content. Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalificent Corvinus Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, animats said: I'm amazed to see that from Texas. Dallas has strip clubs the size of supermarkets. Texas is the Heart of Murica, and Murica is the Land of hypocrisy. Didn't you get the memo? Texas has/had a law stating that making, selling and owning battery operated "adult toys" was perfectly legal, but telling ANYBODY what such a toy was for, was a criminal offence. There were a couple of cases of people hosting "Anne summers" parties in their homes being reported by undercover puritan vigilantes, and prosecuted. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Mote Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) The word 'literally' gets overused, but I don't think anyone has(or has ever had) a problem finding or experiencing adult content and such on the platform, so what exactly is the purpose of streamlining there? From the wording above, it's watered down to adult centric and spice-like, and it specifically says "introduce them to mature content". So, the actual path is somewhere between lame and a dead-end, at best, right out of the gate. Also, it's presumably less about the actual content than identity politics, and their related communities. Maybe interest in Belliseria is petering out after 5 years, and they're looking to regenerate interest, taking the cookie cutters in other directions to further maximize certain markets. Edited June 27 by Ineffable Mote 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Ineffable Mote said: The word 'literally' gets overused Literally, it does! I wonder where we can sign up to be "models" for the "introduction to mature content"? Imagine the bragging rights! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belindacarson Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Personally, I'll be watching how they ask for RL ID, and the flurry of GDPR complaints they'll get asking to process private info without consent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Ingrid Ingersoll said: I just hope "streamlining the onboarding process for new Second Life residents interested in adult content" doesn't lead those users to think that everyone in world is there for the same reason. That might be disappointing for them and possibly a bit of a nuisance to those who aren't in sl for that. It sounds from the description as though "streamlining" also probably means "segregating," and that part of the point of this is actually to create a new corner of SL for new users whose primary focus is upon sex. Sort of Zindra, but maybe it will work this time? Or probably not. In any case, I have mixed feelings about that. And I do worry about the law of unintended consequences. 9 minutes ago, Ineffable Mote said: From the wording above, it's watered down to adult centric and spice-like, and it specifically says "introduce them to mature content". So, the actual path is somewhere between lame and a dead-end, at best, right out of the gate. Also, it's presumably less about the actual content than identity politics, and their related communities. Maybe interest in Belliseria is petering out after 5 years, and they're looking to regenerate interest, taking the cookie cutters in other directions to further maximize certain markets. In Canada, we have a largish chain of "adult" stores called The Stag Shop, which has become in some ways the McDonald's of porn shops. Glossy, well-marketed, and relatively "safe." I can imagine LL-created adult content sort of falling into that category. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorciaa Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Maybe they will ad a Bellisseria style area that is more " civilized " and less wild wild west like Zin is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 39 minutes ago, Ineffable Mote said: Also, it's presumably less about the actual content than identity politics, and their related communities. How is it "identity politics" to give a segment of the population something they desire, even if possibly mostly an affirmative nod in their direction. I'm not commenting on how effective it might be -- I just don't understand why you'd call this "identity politics". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Oh it sounds like a an adult version of Bellisseria might be coming.. I'll jump on that when it comes. Let alone it's gonna be newer and more to explore. I hope there is lots of water like there is in Bellisseria, that or maybe it'll be set up like a city or something really cool like that.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingrid Ingersoll Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said: Oh it sounds like a an adult version of Bellisseria might be coming.. I'll be the last person in Belli with a house in the current version. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 34 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: It sounds from the description as though "streamlining" also probably means "segregating," and that part of the point of this is actually to create a new corner of SL for new users whose primary focus is upon sex. Sort of Zindra, but maybe it will work this time? Or probably not. In any case, I have mixed feelings about that. And I do worry about the law of unintended consequences. In Canada, we have a largish chain of "adult" stores called The Stag Shop, which has become in some ways the McDonald's of porn shops. Glossy, well-marketed, and relatively "safe." I can imagine LL-created adult content sort of falling into that category. I think also it might be taking that content that got shoved in the far end of the rooms corner years ago and getting it back out there more.. Like it used to be when there was just the two ratings.. Maybe they are embracing that it was a mistake to do that in an adult platform.. I mean adult land is crazy high, but with a premium or premium plus account, they might be able to have a little place of their own, where they can advertise get togethers and things like that.. I'm sure there would be some rules and restrictions still, it being LL owned.. But on a smaller scale become it's own lil Amsterdam kind of thing.. hehehe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 7 minutes ago, Ingrid Ingersoll said: I'll be the last person in Belli with a house in the current version. Ya, but you'll get to roll for the best spots and have the whole water to yourself. hehehe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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