EliseAnne85 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: At least one "dealer" needs to be a Shark Avatar!!! They are all sharks. lol When my ex-husband and I were first married, I almost talked my ex into being a croupier. He hates gambling like I do, but he had the personality for it. He was a very funny guy and quite entertaining. He eventually got saddled to a job with honestly more corrupt bosses than Casinos probably have. He also eventually caught these bosses on tax evasion. He needed to get them for human abuse via the Labor Board! Unfortunately, the business made everything look all shiny when the Labor Board came out to give them their bright and shiny 'you pass' checkmark. My ex's bosses were worse sharks than I think are in Vegas. Edited May 10, 2023 by EliseAnne85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I tried it and it's not that bad. It does what I was talking about in a previous thread about SL needing more games. The casino has a hud UI element that shows your tokens and it changes your camera view to an overhead for blackjack and a three-quarter view for slots. There is even a little animation and sparkly particles when you win at slots. Is it addictive? It doesn't feel addictive but I have never been interested in casino games. If LL could make an 'arcade lounge' with the same elements, maybe even the same tokens, and fill it with arcade cabinets, skee ball, prize cranes, etc. I would totally be there. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said: Not sure if anyone else suggested this yet, but one way to handle it is to limit how much L$ a given user could spend in a day / time period. LL already has restrictions on how many Ls new sign ups can purchase. The person has to make the effort to get those amounts increased. Here's mine. lol https://accounts.secondlife.com/lindex/economic_limits?lang=en-US&_gl=1*1tki226*_ga*MTA2NTgxNTY5Mi4xNjc5NzYwMjI2*_ga_T7G7P6DCEC*MTY4MzczNzM3MC43LjEuMTY4MzczNzQzNy42MC4wLjA.*_fplc*cFBpeVNyUjJrbGpHVk5WcXYwODlGbXVWaWNIbCUyRkhtSU1yRUNFRGNaV2w2T1dZdmlMN3pQSkVrc25Ed3BnMzhEdTk1OVpqNlppdVFEWlpjMSUyQmtnNm0yb05iSlBubyUyQnJmUm5rOXNZVWt1TyUyRjdjJTJCTmF4TXhqZlZrQnhmMVBTdyUzRCUzRA.. Edited May 10, 2023 by Silent Mistwalker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Emerald Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: LL is apparently handing out suspensions for violations of the ToS to at least some of those protesting at the casino, including someone who has posted in this thread. Wait, what? How is holding a protest sign inworld at a roleplay casino a violation of the TOS? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: Wait, what? How is holding a protest sign inworld at a roleplay casino a violation of the TOS? If that's true, the Lab is going in the wrong direction. I still noticed a lack of a comment from a Linden staff person. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Emerald Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Alwin Alcott said: the best protest is not to go there Agreed. AR and leave. Protestors just increase foot traffic and provide free entertainment. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bree Giffen said: If LL could make an 'arcade lounge' with the same elements, maybe even the same tokens, and fill it with arcade cabinets, skee ball, prize cranes, etc. I would totally be there. These things could be combined at one venue. There are plenty of idle arcades and amusement parks in SL, but combined with the "casino" thing, maybe there'd be enough activity to build on itself, keeping it all afloat. But how did it fall to us to devise improvements that could give this thing a fighting chance? Of course we may all be wrong and it'll succeed as-is. Maybe enough people want to roleplay as high rollers (or something). Seems unlikely to me, but then I don't understand half of what works in SL, nor half of what doesn't. Although this project clearly involved a considerable investment in time and money, the Lab's communication has been virtually non-existent. As others observed, it seems "fishy"—kinda like a psych experiment where they have yet to reveal what they're actually testing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliseAnne85 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: Wait, what? How is holding a protest sign inworld at a roleplay casino a violation of the TOS? I haven't looked up TOS yet but I'm guessing interfering with other's enjoyment of SL? Maybe. I honestly don't know either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said: If that's true, the Lab is going in the wrong direction. I still noticed a lack of a comment from a Linden staff person. They have their fingers crossed that it will be Friday soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Incognita Clarity said: Yeah, the silence from the Lindens and the Moles on this thread says more about them then they probably intended. Although the Moles may have built the place --- I think it's the higher ups who decides things. Maybe at the next in world meeting with Lindens the casino thing could be bought up. I went to one recently to bring up the mboard changes a while back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliseAnne85 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said: As others observed, it seems "fishy"—kinda like a psych experiment where they have yet to reveal what they're actually testing. I feel that way a bit too. I was wondering if LL is more or less saying it's all role play and role play is valued by the individual because we don't actually own anything in SL. The main licensed owner is LL and for certain other things they are user licensed. Once AI generators come along though, we all could own more things probably. Sometimes I wish they'd make virtual goods actually worth something. Like people can own for real their own virtual land in SL and/or own our virtual items (but they'd have to mod/transfer) to own them and for the virtual items to have value upon resale. But, I think copy-botters ruin the idea of owning our virtual items. Just my .2 cents on that. No response is necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said: These things could be combined at one venue. There are plenty of idle arcades and amusement parks in SL, but combined with the "casino" thing, maybe there'd be enough activity to build on itself, keeping it all afloat. But how did it fall to us to devise improvements that could give this thing a fighting chance? Of course we may all be wrong and it'll succeed as-is. Maybe enough people want to roleplay as high rollers (or something). Seems unlikely to me, but then I don't understand half of what works in SL, nor half of what doesn't. Although this project clearly involved a considerable investment in time and money, the Lab's communication has been virtually non-existent. As others observed, it seems "fishy"—kinda like a psych experiment where they have yet to reveal what they're actually testing. You made some good points. I'm going to "spill the tea" for a minute (tell my version of truth). We criticize, make fun of, and complain about some new thing in Second Life. But, this wasn't just some user's build. This was someone's "job". I kind of feel sorry for them, that management let the project get so far without better oversight, direction, and guidance. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istelathis Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: LL is apparently handing out suspensions for violations of the ToS to at least some of those protesting at the casino, including someone who has posted in this thread. That is unfortunate, when I went there last night they were behaving themselves while I was standing next to them and they seemed to be having some fun, while adding to the entire atmosphere. I wasn't there for long, but it appeared innocent enough, little picket signs that were not offensive, and someone near them asking them for linden to purchase tokens🤣 I hope things did not escalate beyond that, I still had fun playing the slot machines. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: This is rather disturbing and not a good look for LL. Unless protesters are impeding other players in some way from participating in the casino or aggressively engaging with them, a peaceful protest is one of our only recourses in SL to change anything. As we've seen, discussions on subjects here in the forums are often locked when one speaks negatively about LL. Take video. With a little effort, this could get national news coverage. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 "Protesters". Next there will be: "If you ever need someone to go to a casino with you, let me know. I'm always available to go to a casino with a friend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innula Zenovka Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, animats said: Take video. With a little effort, this could get national news coverage. What nation and what news medium do you have in mind? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said: At least one "dealer" needs to be a Shark Avatar!!! Somehow I think of "Shark on the Fridge!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwin LeShelle Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 Hm okeee... So residents are in worries and anger ... LL hiding in the shadows hoping it will all go away, trying to silence people with taking away their free speech x3 Well any sane person would have tried to seek the dialogue with the residents...but I guess some people at LL obviously have left the horizon of common sense light-years behind them and are still accelerating... I really thought they learned from the bot massacre...that talking and listening to their residents is much better than staying silent. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gwin LeShelle said: I really thought they learned from the bot massacre...that talking and listening to their residents is much better than staying silent. Irony, considering who some of the protesters were! I must withhold further comment, lest a Bot fall on my head! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gwin LeShelle said: Hm okeee... So residents are in worries and anger ... LL hiding in the shadows hoping it will all go away, trying to silence people with taking away their free speech x3 Well any sane person would have tried to seek the dialogue with the residents...but I guess some people at LL obviously have left the horizon of common sense light-years behind them and are still accelerating... I really thought they learned from the bot massacre...that talking and listening to their residents is much better than staying silent. I have a feeling LL is writing something up about the Casino thing and will post it soon. Probably wording it so it will appease the Residents. I had to post a sign in my bar as required by the city and it had to be worded in a way to appease all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istelathis Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Irony, considering who some of the protesters were! I must withhold further comment, lest a Bot fall on my head! Nobody expects the Spanish bot Inquisition! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said: I have a feeling LL is writing something up about the Casino thing and will post it soon. Probably wording it so it will appease the Residents. I had to post a sign in my bar as required by the city and it had to be worded in a way to appease all. "Our Social Casino 'Experiment' was a Success! Now you can buy a Private Region with your own Social Casino. Article at the link below" [There are no comments for this post] <== comments will be disabled for the post 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Heartsong Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said: Great minds think alike! I just posted this in the "other thread": Now this is an angle I hadn't thought about. A demonstration for an external party/investor/business of how casinos could be virtual, including avatars for customers. Interesting idea. Edited May 10, 2023 by Katherine Heartsong 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Emerald Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: "Our Social Casino 'Experiment' was a Success! Now you can buy a Private Region with your own Social Casino. Article at the link below" [There are no comments for this post] <== comments will be disabled for the post This Social Casino experiment reminds me of Elon Musk's recent success. 🚀 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, Persephone Emerald said: This Social Casino experiment reminds me of Elon Musk's recent success. 🚀 Yeah, luckily scientists are optimists about failure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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