Chic Aeon

Ahhhh. OK. I see. Well from my experience I would guess it was in addition unless the folks at some venues are making WAY more than anyone I know LOL. And yes, if that was added to the entrance fee, then I suspect some folks would just pack up. There have been places that only took a portion of the profits for many years, but those were shops, not monthly events. The ones like that that I know about ONLY took a percentage but it was more like 25 to 50 which would be OK for some folks and definitely not OK for others. So yes, it will be interesting to see how this flows. Somewhere in the long thread there was mention of new (and sometimes questionable quality) stores getting into venues when more established stores with better quality merchandise could not get in (we aren't talking about me here but folks I know who seem to want to be in a TON of events *wink*). I am not sure if that is altruism on the event owners part or networking or what. But in some ways the idea of new folks in events IS happening -- for whatever reason. Unfortunately that sometimes leads the more established brands to leave the event as traffic goes down (and it really does in many cases sadly). Probably no really great answer.

Well certainly some guys would I amma guessing :D.

Interesting. I know of one venue (what I would consider minor event) that has been doing this awhile. Things are definitely shifting in the venue-events realm; you don't have to pay too much attention to see that. Some have closed, others apparently scrambling, owners being MIA for the most part. I am waiting to see what the next "big thing" will be in SL :D. Always an adventure watching. Since I really hate vendors and don't use them except for charity events, that would likely take me out of the venue carnival. Good for the new folks maybe, not so good for the major brands unless the percentage taken was really small. What "I" foresee happening if more event owners go the split profits route is that creators would make smaller, inexpensive items -- not putting for all that much effort and consider the event advertising rather than a profit making exercise. Probably not all that positive in the long run.

Yes, well *wink*.

OK. I am going to answer this logically. EVEN TODAY (it was easier in the past) someone can come in and live for "free" and have a nice MESH avatar. Here is how I would do it today (and I did it in a similar manner nine years ago). Go to the realms and earn money chasing crystals (not as lucrative as it use to be but still works) LEARN how to build either inworld or outside and upload products into SL and sell them Find a nice place to live for free ("I" just did this even at my old age and it is super with a lovely BIG house and 180 prims == and no I am not telling but they are out there) Get free group gifts and go on hunts for clothes and things. Open a store inworld (again you can find free spots) and / or on the Marketplace. ALL IT TAKES IS EFFORT!!!!!!

I doubt anyone would argue your point. I also think that many of us are wondering WHY ON EARTH you would leave $10,000 in Linden Lab's "care". While we would like to think that the grid will go on for-e-ver, there is absolutely no guarantee that it will. It could be gone tomorrow. So the adage about paying only one week's rent ahead goes WAAAAAAY more for cashing out dollars.

Even though I seemed to be pretty elitist at the beginning of this thread, I do in many ways agree with your statement (not just the line I used to paste in). A week or so ago I even spent the morning making a sort of Pay It Forward Venue space complete with plan and rules and notecards (oh my). It was based pretty much on your concept of new folks and old folks although I weighted it more toward recognized brands as honestly that is what "most" folks want. Before I sent it live out into the firmament, I discarded the plan. Why? Because I was 90% sure that I couldn't get enough old-timers involved even though I was only going to charege $100 a month. So I DO support your position and I hope to see something happen in the future. The problem is that the folks running most of the venues are in a certain mindset. They need to pay their sim tier. They "need" to make a profit for their efforts. That is all well and good, but it doesn't leave room for altruism. I think many folks have forgotten about helping folks out just to help them out (not you it seems, but there is always a minority). Anyway, here's to the future and things turning around a bit. There WERE some events like this in the past (well maybe six years ago?). I was not part of the process but I do remember them. If anyone wants my ready-made venue for this (built for a 1024 lot so about 10 land impact or so per creator) they can contact me. I am guessing it is somewhere in the depths of my currently very messy inventory :D.

Indents have indeed been out for a few decades (I taught MS Word in the day). THAT being said, it is VERY NICE to have the choice for those that choose to be nostalgic. I have great praise for the new forums. They are run by a magical jinn who seems to answer our every wish. Woot.

WHAT SHE SAID! I always wanted to do that

Sigh. Another complainer post. First off, even if you own your own home in real life ( I do) you have to pay TAXES each month as well as other fees sometimes. But most importantly it is your CHOICE to buy a sim. So if you don't want to opt in -- then simply DON'T DO IT! Honestly this stuff gets tiring.

Mesh Sandbox 3 I am pretty sure. Will log in and check. Yes!

Yes, I go that from the notecard message, but my alt got the error on the beta grid along with that other very odd message that you needed to have more than one object in order to link. This when LINKING a group of maybe 10 pieces of mesh which works as normal. So THAT is what got me confused. I hadn't seen the Lelutka message when all this happened this morning :D.

Just a note especially for anyone not used to the beta grid, that my alt has been getting reoccurring (before the grid went down yesterday - early in the day and still now) incorrect alerts. It cannot find her mesh head even though she is wearing it and is looking for a URL for Lelutka and that pops all all in red letters quickly in an alert box. Then she lassoed a bunch of prims (only hers) and linked them and got a warning that she needed to select more than one prim in order to link (well duh!). It linked fine. So things are WORKING OK but it might be frustrating for folks that aren't over there often. EDIT a bit later: This just came in from Lelutka so that is part of the issue. I haven't seen any problems anywhere I have been on the main grid. Odd that for me it has only been on Aditi. That doesn't address the other odd message which was what made me think the beta grid had issues *wink*.

I suggest -- and not in jest, that you look at and perhaps move to Opensim where you can "live in complete freedom without any costs" (an often touted adage). Oh wait, there is a 20% fee to sell on Kitely market and a 45 day wait to get your money to Paypal. Then if you sell something for virtual dollars on the grid you reside on and want to cash out, there is a fee from Podex or Globit or whoever. There is also a fee to buy money. There is however no upload cost and you can get free housing and shop space on many grids. Of course there are many less BUYERS on Opensim so your chances of selling are possibly less :D. There are always costs. If you want free and fast delivery from Amazon, you get a Prime membership which COSTS. Hate commercials, you get Netflix which COSTS. Companies need to make money in order to stay in business. The number of BIG brick and mortar stores closing down next month in the US is HUGE (someone sent me a email on that the other day). The only rights we have as users and consumers is to CHOOSE how we want to spend our money. If we make those choices wisely and in our own interests whatever they may be, then we have no reason to complain IMHO.

MY bold and red on Alwin's posting of the actual Linden post (TY Alwin). Actually, if we look back a few weeks ago at threads by creators that cash out regularly and their "outrage" at the limiting of cash out levels so that folks cannot collect linden dollars and then cash out to save fees ----- THIS evens the playing field and is FAIRER to the creators that make money in SL -- since fewer folks will get a deal from the cash out fees (the $25 cap). For anyone making $1000 US or less, there will be no change at all. It would be even more fair if there was no maximum and it was simply a 1.5% fee across the board, but this is an improvement from my point of view. I have never purchased Lindens; I have always earned my way from the beginning as part of my "personal game". So for those that are very set against buying or selling linden dollars, there is always the option to simply living within their means as well as not cashing out -- living WHOLLY inside the "game".

There is a special preset just for SL when exporting.

Typically on art projects that I have known, artist were part of the rez group and simply placed their art in the venue space. That is pretty much how it is usually done. Quite easy really. Of course the land would need to be set to the group so would need to be owned land, not rented unless some private lands let you change to your own group but I haven't come across that. UWA had artists put a copy of their art in a dropbox so that is an option. Not all artists will want to give away their art though, so I suspect you would have better success with the group method. OR artists could make the art transfer and you could give it back after the event. Another method sometimes used.

Have no answer but did want to say that I have seen my sit options in the menu disappear lately (maybe just yesterday as times blur for me :D). I use Firestorm. Doesn't appear to be a viewer issue. For me a few clicks hither and yon and then trying the to sit again worked and I could see the menu. This IS NEW -- for me anyway so maybe just a momentary glitch. Let's hope so.

In Firestorm (not sure about other viewers) you can have the pop-up not show up by changing settings in the Notification > Alerts. You can STILL see your complexity when you want by using Avatar>Avatar Health>Show Complexity Information. That's what I do. Then you can still check when you want.

So looks like we read your message incorrectly. If your backend web account in SL says they sent the money (and you got an email to that effect) and it didn't arrive at Paypal, you can maybe go to support and put in a ticket. https://support.secondlife.com/contact-support/ IF it went to another Paypal account then that is not good. These days though you don't type in your info, it comes from your webpage backend (I think so anyway) so that seems an unlikely problem. IF the info in your SL account is incorrect, then the payment definitely could have gone astray -- like perhaps to an old Paypal account email? That's my only guess. Good luck.

You CAN illuminate individual faces of a single mesh object using a script so if that was the only issue (I thought you were going to open the door too maybe?) then you don't need separate parts for that. You need to DEFINE each face you want to be separate in your modeling program (in Blender we assign a different MATERIAL to each set of faces (or vertices if that makes more sense) we want to act in the same way. (So it could be one face defined by four vertices as in a table top or it could be many faces all meant to act together when brought in world; frequently this is to define texture areas -- some which you might want to add materials to like shine, others that you would not). And it is EIGHT material faces, not nine for SL. The uploader will upload a model with more than eight but you REALLY don't want to do that. Won't explain why but you can look that up in the forum archives if you want. Basically the uploader breaks the model up "for" you since you didn't pay attention the the rules. MUCH chatter over this new feature when it appeared. I know it is confusing when we use terms that aren't your 3D software terms. Sorry. Maybe this makes a little bit of sense. Edit: Rereading your last post maybe you don't need the lights to turn on and off which is what I was thinking. THAT would need a script. Just to make some glow yellow and some glow blue for example could be done in the build menu.

June 8th was Thursday. The weekend times are not "business days". It typically takes several days for you money to post even now when it is supposed to be faster. Others have complained on the forums that the didn't get their money quickly this month. We don't know why of course. So I suggest patience is needed.

The project was abandoned some time ago I think. The men's body especially still has clothes being made for it but not so much the gals. So in some ways the clothing designers are still "supporting" the body, but I don't think you can buy it any longer. Most of all from all the comments on this forums you should look at other alternatives. Try the Mesh Body Addicts website for lots of info. http://meshbodyaddicts.com/

No, that can't be good. But a lot of info for the future. Good luck.

:D. Well there are of course different definitions (chucking a bit) to "primmy". As ChinRey said, four is really too much. 2 because you need all the parts, so 2 would be your minimum (if I read that correctly as I am just quitting for the day and tired). At 2 you should be able to get good LODs. OK. Here is another thing as you didn't specify that this was a linkset in your OP. Did you make the linkset pieces all correspond in naming to your model pieces. So "box" "box_phys" etc? If not here is a post that explains that. Doesn't mean that 22,000 is good, but may not be the ONLY issue. And if you did already know how this works, the post may help someone else again . And I do agree with ChinRey that this would be better uploaded in pieces for various reasons so you might want to try both ways to get a feel for the differences --- if you haven't done that before of course. We don't really know what you have done -- except perhaps swear a time or two. Been there :D.