Dorientje Woller Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Ingrid Ingersoll said: found it. I'm at 62 celcius. Thats pretty hot? Should I un-install this version of firestorm? 62° C is pretty standard for a GPU under load. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValKalAstra Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just pointing something out, before you panic over your temperature, research what your GPU is supposed to run at. My Nvidia GTX 3060TI for example will happily cook the room at 80°C if I don't limit it and only really begin to slow down at 83° after which it will begin to throttle. Thing is, that's expected for that card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Salyx Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, BilliJo Aldrin said: its broken, both times i logged in my hard core relay detached because it couldnt find rlv, and my collar gave me the same error message, and yes rlv is enabled, and yes when i go back to the older version rlv is fine. So short answer the new versioneffed up rlv That sounds like a timing or race condition on login. I've got things on that check and validate RLV(a) on login that have never shown a problems except very occasionally: If my login in is a bit extra slow, they might complain about RLV not being available, and I have to force a recheck. but it's a good data point to be sure, and one that can be deliberately tested for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Do not worry about things getting hot They will throttle long before they damage themselves. Cleaning out the dust bunnies wouldn't hurt! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Alpha Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) This might be the end for me. PC still holds up with all the creative work I do, but SL and related viewers are gobbling up all the resources.... just to stand still in a place. This is dire for me, and others indeed. No problem with PBR and GLTF and all modern things anywhere else! LOL! Edited June 21 by Codex Alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Textures are loading much faster today, and am at a busy sim with lots of new content...so feeling hopeful about the update. Fan is even fairly quiet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Modulated said: That's warm, but you might want to enable vsync in the hardware tab under preferences, this will limit fps to your monitor -unless you have a monitor with some crazy refresh rate , generally 60mhz or 75mhz for most standard ones, which is what I run at . It helps with temps. I've turned OFF v sync and use the Limit FPS slider instead. I had thought they had said that was suggested instead of v-sync. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond Marchant Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: Absolutely stable and much much higher framerate. ^^ this Disclaimer: I am extremely annoyed with LL at the moment and will take a few days to get over it (not PBR related). As to the PBR release, the higher frame rate is the only thing that is useful to me, otherwise, it is a step backwards, as I have no interest in mirrors or making things more shiny, or completely changing the workflow for texturing objects. The frame rate improvement is a consequence of, after 21 years, turning the viewer into a multi-threaded application (duh). I also understand that the Firestorm team had this forced on them. It is all LL's doing. I having been using the PBR Firestorm since SL21B exhibitor building started because at that time, streets were glowing white if you were on a non-PBR viewer. At some point, LL wised up and made the roadway textures backward compatible. It is mind boggling that LL released this stuff without simultaneously releasing a bunch of new EEPs that look good with PBR. Only a few of the legacy EEPs (in the library) look acceptable to me, for example, Neutral and maybe Default. My prior favorite, CalWL, looks way too bright. The most annoying issue with the PBR viewers (for me) is the slow rez time and the arbitrary derezzing of stuff. I can sail and fly just fine, with good frame rates, but my avatar or vehicle just randomly poofs. I can do the zoom in/zoom out thing to maybe restorre things, but then it happens again. Seriously? (I am using max cache size and have been installing new viewers after first uninstalling and clearing caches.) Same thing with everything else. I look in one direction, look one way, look back and things are missing. So LL.... give us a pile of good PBR EEPs, rez stuff faster and stop derezzing my stuff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modulated Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: I've turned OFF v sync and use the Limit FPS slider instead. I had thought they had said that was suggested instead of v-sync. Definitely if that works best for your gpu. The limiter seems to make my gpu a little choppy but vsync is always smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaomiLocket Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 14 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said: So LL.... give us a pile of good PBR EEPs, rez stuff faster and stop derezzing my stuff. Surprised you're only just noticing things derezzing. That's been a regular thing for some off and on in waves ever since project interesting at least. Varied intensities depending on the build cycle. I'd put that down to a side issue along with camera's being woe crossing parcels and some sims etc. Edited June 21 by NaomiLocket removed out of place word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaomiLocket Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) With all the mixed reports in here from "things are sunshine and rainbows" to "well this is f***ed" I'm just going to wait it out a while and pretend the release never happened. PBR hasn't been in SL long enough to justify any release deadline and has nothing to do with SL21B in any real sense for not having been in SL long enough to relate to a birthday. I don't need to gamble extra disruption. I'd rather listen to Jonathan Blow. Edited June 21 by NaomiLocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond Marchant Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 minutes ago, NaomiLocket said: Surprised you're only just noticing things derezzing. You are correct, it has been an issue for a while. But it is now WORSE. The avatar derezzing issue is new for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Arcadia Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 5 hours ago, Raina Anatra said: I downloaded the new version yesterday, and immediately, I noticed that my computer's fan ran constantly and hard. I've got my fps rate at 30, even tried 15, and it was still racing. I tried downloading the newer SL viewer, and the fan did the same. I also noticed that in firestorm, my usual windlights and environmental settings looked terrible and the overall graphics were not an improvement for me. The fan issue is the big one for me. I have a gaming PC, but I can't risk burning it out. I may have to uninstall the beta and go back to the last version, which worked great for me. I have the same feelings - I haven't tried the new Firestorm version yet, but did dl SL today and tried as I was at SL21B and kept seeing signs recommending it to see things properly. I have a newish computer, good specs, but I don't want to run it hot as that does contribute to wear over time. As soon as Iogged in my fans ran hard, my CPU temp going up near to 80% - normally I run 50-65% in Firestorm (I changed some settings in the SL viewer which did help, but kept the CPU at the higher end of 60). I'm not looking forward to having to switch to the new Firestorm version, based off what others are experiencing. I've got nothing against PBR per se - I used to create digital PBR textures, and have seen how good PBR can be, and understand why they want to implement it. But I'm not feeling enthused by the feedback I'm seeing so far on how it's going in SL. If it starts heating up my laptop and I can't maintain the current temps I'm happy with, well that means I'll limit my time in SL.... Edited June 21 by Evangeline Arcadia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modulated Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 People in FS support are losing their GD minds with the comments...whew boy. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 This got posted to reddit 8 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Arcadia Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: This got posted to reddit Awww, I feel for Firestorm support, they're just implementing what they have to, sooner or later. I love Firestorm!!! Without it my SL experience would not be as pleasurable. Edited June 21 by Evangeline Arcadia 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modulated Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 24 minutes ago, Modulated said: People in FS support are losing their GD minds with the comments...whew boy. I think its beginning to really emerge how many people are on pbr incapable hardware with this release... 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Alpha Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Modulated said: I think its beginning to really emerge how many people are on pbr incapable hardware with this release... Well more accurately "PBR on Second Life" incapable hardware 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 21 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: This got posted to reddit We could have, and in fact did, predict exactly this months ago here. Most residents didn't see this coming, and a great many of them have absolutely no idea what any of it means. To them, SL has just suddenly become slower, darker, and uglier. A lot of this, again, comes down to LL's inability to get the word out. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmeliaJ08 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 minutes ago, Modulated said: I think its beginning to really emerge how many people are on pbr incapable hardware with this release... I suspect it's more like ALM incapable hardware... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Heartsong Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: We could have, and in fact did, predict exactly this months ago here. Most residents didn't see this coming, and a great many of them have absolutely no idea what any of it means. To them, SL has just suddenly become slower, darker, and uglier. A lot of this, again, comes down to LL's inability to get the word out. Isn't it more like the Lab didn't listen to residents saying this wasn't going to turn out well? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Vortex Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Firestorm updating to a new feature in less than 2 years after LL launch? That's a new one. 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: A lot of this, again, comes down to LL's inability to get the word out. Some of "us" - me - on the Forums have been aware of the changes for a long time because 1) the topics have been discussed for a long time, and 2) us/me using the Official viewer, having plenty of time to adjust (including, each Official viewer release informing us of the changes). Why couldn't Firestorm included lots of "It's coming!" Notifications? Blaming it all on the lab, when Official viewer users like me are already fully adjusted to the changes, seems illogical (possibly it seems like a specious argument to blame the lab if Firestorm users could have been warned). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmeliaJ08 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Isn't it more like the Lab didn't listen to residents saying this wasn't going to turn out well? LL do hardware surveys and have said that they feel the average user can handle this. We're hearing from the people that are running iGPUs and probably didn't have ALM enabled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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