Should I put my real-life gender in my woman avatars' profiles?

[QuietEventide]

3 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Can I be a banana fish?

As long as you clearly define under your "1st life fin" whether you carry roe or milt in the real ocean.

I do apologize ...  

[Love Zhaoying]

9 minutes ago, Istelathis said:

13 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Can I be a banana fish?

I was going to suggest a catfish, but then remembered cat fish can be a reference to something other than fish.  Now I am trying to figure out why people call it cat fishing, because it doesn't make a lick of sense to me to call it that.  

I was referencing this, at the risk that most people would not get the reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Fish

ETA: Catfish are bottom-feeders, and their barbs sting like hell!

Edited August 15, 2023 by Love Zhaoying

[Love Zhaoying]

6 minutes ago, QuietEventide said:

As long as you clearly define under your "1st life fin" whether you carry roe or milt in the real ocean.

I do apologize ...  

I once was served lobster (when I was not a vegetarian) that was mostly roe!  It felt like I was cheated.

[PermaRuthed]

20 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I once was served lobster (when I was not a vegetarian) that was mostly roe!  It felt like I was cheated.

Roe is the best part!

[Love Zhaoying]

2 minutes ago, PermaRuthed said:

23 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I once was served lobster (when I was not a vegetarian) that was mostly roe!  It felt like I was cheated.

Roe is the best part!

I assume you meant uncooked / raw roe?

Once it has been baked inside the lobster - the row is just a solid mass..not quite as appetizing as raw / sushi roe!  And at the price of lobster, if you get "mostly roe" that has been baked or steamed, it's really not worth the price.

[PermaRuthed]

3 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I assume you meant uncooked / raw roe?

Once it has been baked inside the lobster - the row is just a solid mass..not quite as appetizing as raw / sushi roe!  And at the price of lobster, if you get "mostly roe" that has been baked or steamed, it's really not worth the price.

Lobsters are generally not eaten raw, so the roe has to be cooked. The cooked roe gives a different texture to the meat, but still just as tasty.

[Love Zhaoying]

23 minutes ago, PermaRuthed said:

Lobsters are generally not eaten raw, so the roe has to be cooked. The cooked roe gives a different texture to the meat, but still just as tasty.

Ok, I'll take your word for it. I wasn't impressed. 🙂 

[Istelathis]

12 hours ago, Phil Deakins said:

In certain circumstances, I disagree with that.

Some people, and I am one of them, would seriously hate to be 'romantic' with an avatar that is being operated by someone of the same gender and, imo, it's unethical to have someone think that the person at the keyboard is not the gender they believe they are 'interacting' with.

I was thinking about this, and let my imagination get the better of me.  Not to say you or anyone is right or wrong in their ethics, but the similarities of some sexual relations with SL and porn.

In porn, you will often have a man directing the actress how to be positioned, the dialogue, when to groan, how loud, the entire scene might be created from their perspective and if anything at that point, she has become more or less "his" avatar.  His own expression put on the camera.  The people pleasuring themselves in such an instance, would be pleasuring themselves to a man's roleplay session, the actress herself is female, but then so to wouldn't the representation of an avatar?

This brings to the topic all sorts of other questions, such objectification of women, what is acceptable, and so on.  It goes places where I would rather not go, but it all ties in.  Do you think people would be less likely to want to pleasure themselves to porn, if they knew it was entirely created from a man?  Take it a step further, and say it were completely computer generated porn, would it make a difference?

I wonder if at some point in the future, if there will be a demand for porn that is exclusively made by women or men, because of the ethics involved with it all.

Edited August 15, 2023 by Istelathis

[BilliJo Aldrin]

6 hours ago, Paul Hexem said:

"I'm not responsible for how I interact with people", isn't a healthy take.

i never said im not responsible for how i interact, but im certainly not responsible for other peoples actions

[Krystina Ferraris]

11 hours ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:To me it's all... whatever.

Same here, I’ve one man I see here when he can be online (seldom) and I know him RL so that doesn’t count I guess.

the rest is whatever as I’m not looking for anything beyond chit chat, friends etc as I’m not always IW either.

Some people though are constantly looking for the next big rl love or something, or it seems to be that way in some places!

[PekeNL]

18 hours ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

Put your real life gender on one of your female avatars and don't on another one.  Take them in and see what the difference is.

Already did that. You can guess the results...

[diamond Marchant]

19 hours ago, Gopi Passiflora said:

But after reading this forum, I'm beginning to think this may not be ethical.

I didn't read this whole thread, but it appears that by definition, you are not unethical, because ethics usually means conforming to a standard of behavior accepted by a group, typically a profession. There is no standard in Second Life for disclosing the differences between your real life presentation and your avatar.

[BilliJo Aldrin]

2 minutes ago, PekeNL said:

Already did that. You can guess the results...

seriously, why would anyone do that? Just be your avatar, leave your rl body at the login screen.

 

[Silent Mistwalker]

2 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Can I be a banana fish?

It was a reference (to Hitchhiker) I don't expect anyone to get except for Gopi.

You can be a guppie if you want but don't be surprised when someone lights you up.

[Love Zhaoying]

3 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

2 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Can I be a banana fish?

It was a reference (to Hitchhiker) I don't expect anyone to get except for Gopi.

You can be a guppie if you want but don't be surprised when someone lights you up.

I'm sorry, are you telling me what I was referencing? I am probably confused.

I already explained that, if so - it was nothing to do with Hitchhiker, but a Japanese manga entitled, "Banana Fish".

[Silent Mistwalker]

1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I was referencing this, at the risk that most people would not get the reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Fish

ETA: Catfish are bottom-feeders, and their barbs sting like hell!

No wonder I didn't "get it". I'm not into manga or anime. Just regular old cartoons.

 

Ever watch those boys that hand fish for cat (called noodling)?

Now I've got a craving for some good buffalo cat ribs.

 

[QuietEventide]

I wasn't aware of the Banana Fish reference.
But I have now looked it up. I like learning about new things I did not know before.

[PermaRuthed]

1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Ok, I'll take your word for it. I wasn't impressed. 🙂 

That's ok. The world would be boring if everyone liked the same things.

[Silent Mistwalker]

8 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I'm sorry, are you telling me what I was referencing? I am probably confused.

I already explained that, if so - it was nothing to do with Hitchhiker, but a Japanese manga entitled, "Banana Fish".

I was explaining the post I made to Gopi that you quoted. 🤦🏽‍♀️

 

[Gabriele Graves]

Is it just me that thinks people who come to SL looking for RL-based love are giving themselves the worst odds at finding it?

I mean dating apps show you people in your area and are all about having RL info and yet people's profiles are still fake in a lot of cases.  These apps are optimised at helping people find each other and it's still hard to find that special someone.

Enter SL which wasn't created with this use in mind, has mostly anonymous people who are geographically dispersed over the entire world.  To top it off people are in a lot of cases still just using what the avatar looks like and/or what's on the SL profile to determine if they'd like to get to know someone which is really no more help to them than having nothing to go on even if they don't realise this.

[Gabriele Graves]

3 hours ago, Luna Bliss said:

19 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

What you think is unethical is the only thing that matters.

No.

I took this to mean that if you think you being unethical and that makes you stop for concern then it probably is unethical.

Obviously I could have misunderstood this.

 

Edited August 15, 2023 by Gabriele Graves

[Gabriele Graves]

4 hours ago, Sid Nagy said:

And for the rest, almost everything is chat material for me: age, gender, profession, hobbies, musical interests, color of my hair (if I would not shave it: grey) you name it.
Maybe it is a bit easier for me, because for me there is never romance or an eventual relationship on the back burner because of my letter in the lgbtqia+ string.

I'm pretty much the same with those who are chatting with me or who are within chat range.  I am happy to share most things about myself that are safe to do so.  I see putting RL info on profiles as unwise personally and just seems like unnecessarily broadcasting it as if you were wearing it on a big sign while walking around RL.

[Paul Hexem]

43 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

i never said im not responsible for how i interact, but im certainly not responsible for other peoples actions

Absolutely other people are responsible for their own actions. Their feelings based on how we interact with them, though? That's a whole lot more complex.

[cariboustag]

Love joining threads late. I sure felt like a fish out of water reading through this latest page.

[Rowan Amore]

13 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said:

I took this to mean that if you think you being unethical and that makes you stop for concern then it probably is unethical.

Obviously I could have misunderstood this.

 

That's exactly what I meant.  The OP stated that after reading about it in the forums, they were wondering if NOT revealing your true gender was ethical.  Meaning, some people find it unethical.  In general, I don't find it unethical.  In a close, intimate relationship, it would be unethical but those are MY personal beliefs.  I don't expect everyone to follow my beliefs.