Flame Swenholt Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Title speaks for itself. Welp, does mean that my future ideas of streaming avatar developements is 100% not happening anymore. Somehow Second Life ranks with that of Sakura Spirit and Hatred, the later being an obvious reaction to why Twitch has pulled out the Adult Games ban.So if you do Twitch and you do SL, don't do the two at the same time within the stream's viewing, unless someone can talk some sense into Twitch.Source: http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1992676-list-of-prohibited-games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The other games listed in the ban have content that is 100% against Twitch's rules of conduct. Second Life's content is something like 90% within the rules and 10% against. (Not sure what the actual ratio would be.) Should the whole of SL be banned because of that? SL isn't even on the list of the ESRB's ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velk Kerang Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The thing you got to understand though is SL by a slim margin is classed as an actual mmorpg by the gaming community. Most do not consider it an actual game. Most gamers look at SL as being closer related to being a social network something like what RLD is. So in all reality I am not surprised it was banned by Twitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Velk, so you're saying that SL is being banned not because of content violating the Twitch rules of conduct but because SL is not considered to be 'video gaming related activities' as per the Twitch terms of service? I suppose that's a plausible reason why SL was banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velk Kerang Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Bree Giffen wrote: Velk, so you're saying that SL is being banned not because of content violating the Twitch rules of conduct but because SL is not considered to be 'video gaming related activities' as per the Twitch terms of service? I suppose that's a plausible reason why SL was banned. Well if I had to guess I am thinking it's because they don't want people streaming the adult content. They are not going to police the content uploaded by users from a single game so really that's the best way to avoid a situation all together. That's how I am seeing it on why they might have added it to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 It's simpler than that. The new owners, Amazon, don't want to be associated with something that has an appalling reputation for BDSM, sex, dolcett, vore, bestiality, and other disgusting habits like kid avatars speaking with lisps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Faulds Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 And it's too bad cause I've used Twitch for teaching how to do building or basic skills realted thing in SL. Showing works better than text. I did IM the company and ask why they decided to ban SL. No answer yet, but who knows? I got a phone call on my complaint with Kia over their latest round of ads for the Kia Soul and its use of a song glorifying stalking as the background music. I don't expect anything to really be done in either case, but one can always hope. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel UwU Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Kinda ironic they ban SL,but allow games like GTA and Assassin's Creed 2. Assassin's Creed 2 has some sex scenes which seem not to be able to be skipped. Sex in sl can be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Mokusei Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Axelfoxthefoxyfluff wrote: Kinda ironic they ban SL,but allow games like GTA and Assassin's Creed 2. Not sure if irony, but the misattribution is that they're responding to content concerns. Twitch/Amazon don't really care what people look at, provided is through their wires. Stream all the hardcore you like and this won't grab much news, porn is everywhere online. They regularly score hatred of cable TV channels for leaked shows - doesn't slow them down and their rep stays high. What Twitch are responding to is industry pressure and negative stigma, and this is plenty worrying for LL and for those of us in SL who promote A/C (and/or fully intend to promote A/C in Sansar). Certain activities in SL grab big-screen attention, and Twitch don't want to get drawn into this and lose reputation. Kinda inevitable given the climate, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Why does SL need air conditioning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarterTom Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Wow..... amazing!!! I get a warning from Theresa Linden because i posted a link to my twitch here,..... I wanted to show that SECOND LIFE ISNT BANNED FROM TWITCH AT ALL!!! That is *****ing rediculous. I am trying to be helpful and take a stand for LL and i get warned Because i want to show the GOOD side .... right,....... Ive been stalked for over two years by one and the same person, made over 20 REPORTS and nothing happens. (double standards, Lindens? It only concerns you if it AFFECTS you ? wow!!!!) But im trying to be helpful and add some GOOD NEWS to the community,...... and then this?? Well last time i would EVER stick my neck out again... Thanks Theresa!!! (yes i stick my neck out cause maybe i WILL get banned from twitch because i broadcast SL to show them that its NOT only a porn site and a social platform where ***** happens all the time......... guess good deeds arent appreciated.......) No advertising or promotion of specific Second Life merchants, Marketplace listings, products, or services, unless the forum area is specifically for the buying or selling of Second Life products or services, for example, a “for sale” or “wanted” forum. Do not reference other websites offering any product or service. " Really?? You should be THANKFUL that i promote SL in a GOOD WAY on other platforms so you might get MORE people who want to check it out and join.! There is no advertising here, no promotion for my own benefit of ANY KIND!!!! It benefits SL not me...... " Maybe you should STOP putting everyone in the same box and let people HELP instead of punishing them for it. After all ( its a user created platform right????) So let the community support eachother and dont be an ass about little things that have no meaning........ last time i ever did that THE NAME SECOND LIFE or LINDEN LABS will NEVER EVER be sayd or heard or typed in my twitch again. Nor will i SHOW what happens here. Its not worth it...... SL is not worth it.... the Lindens arent worth that kind of support. Thank you!!! Edited June 24, 2019 by CarterTom 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 What? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scylla Rhiadra Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Me, I'm just getting tired of Twitch banning Second Life. It seems like once a week I see it popping up here again: "Twitch bans Second Life"! Can't they just ban it once and have done with it? Does it refuse to stay banned or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Huntsman Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 To be honest, I sorta thought that whole "Nudity" thing didnt make sense for a ban. You got Grand Theft auto, and rated M guys busting out nudity. Heck, Conan even supports rape with the nuts out and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrah Abattoir Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Twitch doesn't want to police their platform manually so they will ban any game that could go against their term of service. Use something else than twitch. I recall mixer was fine with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, CarterTom said: I wanted to show that SECOND LIFE ISNT BANNED FROM TWITCH AT ALL!!! Unfortunately, it still is. That's something that LL management should be taking up with Twitch management. It's embarrassing that SL is in the doghouse on Twitch. This hurts new user acquisition. It's embarrassing to SL users who'd like to show SL to their friends. Twitch's detailed policy reads "Games featuring nudity, pornography, sex, or sexual violence as a core focus or feature, and gameplay modified to feature these elements are entirely prohibited. Occurrences of in-game nudity are permitted, so long as you do not make them a primary focus of your content and only spend as much time as needed in the area to make progress." SL could meet that standard outside of Adult areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarterTom Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 @Scylla Rhiadra Well i actually think the reasons are a bit stupid tho. I mean honestly they look at one bad side and ban it. i dont understand. I mean..... sure theres a lot of crap happenig i SL by people who have no good intentions at all. But that can be avoided right? EIther you choose not to broadcast the bad things happening or you make sure nothing of it all is seen. (like i do) Its a way of NOT feeding the trolls and still be able to support your creativity and the place that you think is worth broadcasting for. I checked again and its still on the banned list. But i wont stop..... I am a DJ and i have nothing to do with griefers, porn or unacceptable behavior from people. I play and produce music thats it. The Irony behind all this is that sometimes i see females broadcasting "Just chatter" and they are actually wearing a very skimpy top, 80% of the boobs showing, they get tenthousands of viewers every day, they make tenthousands of dollars by donations......... and this is where Twitch looks the other way. But showing a very well but sexy dressed avi in the BIGGEST 3D social platform (yes i dont see SL as a game either) no..... thats not done. See the hypocricy in that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ananoelle Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Haselden said: To be honest, I sorta thought that whole "Nudity" thing didnt make sense for a ban. You got Grand Theft auto, and rated M guys busting out nudity. Heck, Conan even supports rape with the nuts out and everything. Really you are comparing GTA nudity with second lifes, bdsm, gor, furrys and so on hahaha well ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarterTom Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, animats said: Unfortunately, it still is. That's something that LL management should be taking up with Twitch management. It's embarrassing that SL is in the doghouse on Twitch. This hurts new user acquisition. It's embarrassing to SL users who'd like to show SL to their friends. Twitch's detailed policy reads "Games featuring nudity, pornography, sex, or sexual violence as a core focus or feature, and gameplay modified to feature these elements are entirely prohibited. Occurrences of in-game nudity are permitted, so long as you do not make them a primary focus of your content and only spend as much time as needed in the area to make progress." SL could meet that standard outside of Adult areas. Mhmm yes as i just stated in my previous comment, i checked it and its still on the list. Yet,..... i did not get banned (as of yet hahaha) by broadcasting my DJ work in a club...... ( i do keep nudity out of my camera sight tho) never wake a sleeping dog i was told Edited June 24, 2019 by CarterTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrah Abattoir Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, animats said: Twitch's detailed policy reads "Games featuring nudity, pornography, sex, or sexual violence as a core focus or feature, and gameplay modified to feature these elements are entirely prohibited. Occurrences of in-game nudity are permitted, so long as you do not make them a primary focus of your content and only spend as much time as needed in the area to make progress." SL could meet that standard outside of Adult areas. I think they go on the guideline that since SL is 100% user generated, there is literally zero guarantee that the content will abid to... well anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Huntsman Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, ananoelle said: Really you are comparing GTA nudity with second lifes, bdsm, gor, furrys and so on hahaha well ok boobs are boobs there's no beating around the bush lol. Heck, imagine your kid walking in on one of these scenes for top 10. It's still sex. [MODERATOR EDIT: Embedded video with sexual activity removed] Edited June 25, 2019 by Dakota Linden [MODERATOR EDIT: Embedded video with sexual activity removed] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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