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Beth Macbain

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  1. My family wasn't even here... My mother was British and my father's grandfather came over from Germany... but I absolutely wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks extra in taxes for reparations to both the ADOS community and the Native American community. Now I donate to organizations involved in those communities, but it sure would be grand if our government did the right thing and those organizations became unnecessary because we're actually taking care of ALL our people.
  2. Well, crap, Ceka, I just finished that documentary and I’m absolutely guilty of exactly what they were talking about at the end - seeing all the media and thinking everything is just awful on the south side and not seeing any of the good that’s going on. I like to think I know better and that I’m all sorts of woke, but I have miles to go and volumes to learn. One of the things that struck me most was the bit about black people not being able to make mistakes and fail at things without it destroying and defining their entire lives. Take two kids in the same circumstances, say... something stupid like stealing a car... but one is white and the other black, and the paths laid out in front of them a very different. I’ve got a lot to think about now. Thank you for waking me up a little bit more.
  3. Thanks... I’ll start there. I also think it’s important to see the violence and not sterilize it. That makes it too easy to dismiss and deny. I know Louisville is like a smaller version of Chicago. We’re the midway point between there and the Deep South, as well as between Florida and NY for the traffickers (human and drug). If people don’t see it, they don’t believe it, and that willful obliviousness is part of the problem.
  4. I am pretty out of touch here... I’m old and tragically unhip to a lot of things. I know, of course, about the violence in Chicago, and I know how parts of the city, the projects, have basically been abandoned. I never heard it called Chiraq, but I get it now. Do you recommend a place for me to start learning? A website, book, blog? Or should I just hit google and keep going?
  5. And Mississippi is... well, when other states fail at something, they console themselves by saying, “At least we aren’t Mississippi!” The fact that they woke up is a huge deal.
  6. They brought pizza? Like, “Oh, hey... we’re just sitting here, having a little pizza picnic... as you do... in Chicano Park. Don’t mind us... we’re not planning on tearing any monument down. That’s those other white guys... with the, er... cheese sandwiches. American cheese on Wonder bread. Yeah, those are the racists you’re looking for...” 😂😂😂
  7. Go to sleep! We'll probably still be having the same argument tomorrow when you get off work!
  8. You've still not answered the question about whether or not you've had the racism conversation with Kim, or anyone else. Why are you avoiding it? I voted for a wonderfully successful black man for POTUS twice, and almost wrote him in for a third time (oh, but would I could). It is absolutely wonderful that there are human beings, regardless of their color, thriving in this world because it ain't easy. Every time I turn around, I see successful black people. They are in my community, my government, my workplace, shopping at my supermarket, living in my complex, on my television... well, they would be if I owned a television... I hear successful black voices during every protest in my city. Charles Booker, Attica Scott, Jecorey Arthur. Are they lying about being happy, successful black people because they acknowledge and actively fight against racism? Or do they not matter to you for that same reason? No one is saying that things have not improved since the 13th Amendment was ratified. No one is saying that things have not improved since the Civil Rights movement. Improvement does not equal equity, or equality. Black people have made huge strides towards being on the same footing as white people in the United States, with little help from the white man. White people had a running head start and black people have still not been able to catch up because that head start was enormous - it was the difference between being a human being and being property. We have shown you study after study showing that black people have not achieved equity or equality in the United States - most of those studies conducted by very successful black people - and you are still on this strange mission to deny these truths. If we were belittling the successful black people of the United States as you seem to think we are, then are you belittling the non-successful black people? Which is more insulting to the black community as a whole, especially when those same successful black people are telling you with their millions of voices that racism is still an issue in the United States of America? Why aren't their voices important to you? Why is it only the successful black people that you personally know - the ones you've seemingly have not had the conversation with about racism?
  9. Have you had a conversation about racism with any of them? Kim? Your boyfriend? Some random black guy in your multi-ethnic community? How many conversations have you had? And they all said, "Nope, life is spectacular... never once experienced this racism thing people keep talking about!"? Where is this Utopia? I want to live in a place where racism has been wiped out. We could be neighbors!
  10. No, I think January hasn't engaged Kim in a discussion about race. I'm not saying Kim doesn't have an awesome life... or Janet, or Ashlyn, or Pussycat, or Ceka, or any black person, but I'm guessing Kim is very aware of the possible prejudices she's encountered. January doesn't want to know that because it would destroy her comfortable worldview. And January, you are the one who brought up "my black friend". I didn't make her the token - you did.
  11. For black Americans, experiences of racial discrimination vary by education level, gender. On Views of Race and Inequality, Blacks and Whites Are Worlds Apart. Black Voices Matter: DoSomething Activists Speak on our Current Moment. How Much Racism Do You Face Every Day? Who's narrow-minded?
  12. You do understand that if you did, you'd be making the exact point I've been trying to make, right?
  13. Interesting. Out of everything that has been discussed across all these threads, and all these posts, your take-away is that those of us who support BLM and recognize that there is a racism problem all think every black person's lives are exactly the same? Or do you think that? Do you think they all look alike as well? It's also cute that you believe your token "black friend Kim" has ever been the victim of racism. Have you ever had that conversation with her?
  14. (sending from my phone so formatting might be out of whack)
  15. I admire you for continuing to try, but you might as well give up.
  16. A part of white privilege that doesn't get talked about enough is the luxury to remain oblivious - and it is a privilege because it's a choice, especially in 2020. White people can make the decision to shut out a 42 million voices trying to explain how black people are not afforded the same basic human decency that white people are. Black people aren't afforded that choice. They have to live with it every single day.
  17. it was a copy item, and I never delete copy items from my inventory... only the rezzed copy I have out. It was from a well known creator, though I can't remember which one, so I doubt it's gone. I can't remember if I bought it in a store, or on the MP. It's going to drive me bonkers until I find it.
  18. Needing something that I know damn good and well is somewhere in my inventory but not being able to remember the name and being completely unable to find it. It's a screen/room divider thingie and it has ribbons on it that are color change. I used it in a house I lived in a year ago. I've tried all the keywords to search. I've looked through every folder that it could or should possibly be in. I want to scream. My inventory. My entire inventory is a pet peeve.
  19. I'm not blaming her. I'm pointing out the truth that it happens. She has never been pulled over by the cops for driving while black because she isn't black. She has absolutely no knowledge of it happening to her because she isn't black. She keeps making an argument that since she's never seen it, it's obviously not a terrible problem for black people. Again, though, let me point out that she isn't black. I've never been pulled over for driving while black, either... because I'm not black. Do I blame myself for that? Of course not. I'm not blaming her, either. Acknowledging an issue is not the same as taking the blame for it.
  20. Are you saying that black people who have experienced those things, or white people who have see those things happen to black people, are making them up? They're all lying? I'm simply asking you to acknowledge that it happens. It happens in your neighborhood, I guarantee it happened in your childhood neighborhood, it happens in every city in every state. I will bet every single breath in my body that you have been treated differently because you are white - whether you know it or not. I'd also be willing to bet that if we asked your two bi-racial best friends if they'd experienced it in your presence without you even noticing it, they'd say they had. @Janet Voxel - Can we make an exception for blackface when it involves sending white people out on their own to experience life as a black person?
  21. Why are you making it all about money? Privilege isn't necessarily about money. It's about driving through Brentwood - is white Fairre going to be pulled over, or is black Fairre going to be pulled over? How does the cop treat white Fairre and is it different to how the cop treats black Faiire. It's about going shopping along the Third Street Promenade - who is going to be followed by security looking for shoplifting? White Fairre or black Fairre? Who is going to get seated faster in that restaurant - white Fairre or black Fairre? Who is going to be subjected to a stricter dress code? White Fairre or black Fairre? Do people cross the street when they see you walking towards them? Clutch their purses, lock their car doors? How difficult is it to find a variety of shampoos for your hair? When you turn on the television, how long does it take before you see a white person? You're making your definition of systemic racism far too narrow.
  22. I sometimes wonder if that's what provokes them to be so violent. They know they'e at the bottom and are just one step above those they are beating, choking, and killing in the eyes of the people higher up on the pole, and that they'll never climb higher because although they were born with white privilege, there were many other whites born with much more privilege.
  23. And this is why you are a better human being than I am. I just don't have the patience for it unless it is with a person that is showing a willingness to listen, and think. It's been my experience, though, that most people know full well that they have some biases, and admitting it would mean that they have to change it, and change is really hard, and it's just easier to say, "Nope... no biases here, you're crazy, I don't see color, I have black friends, and you are wrong," or they own it by saying things like, "Black people need to get over slavery," which someone actually said in one of these threads. There's no sharing with people like that, and I'm just not going to be nice and polite to them. They are wrong, and they need to wear big signs that say they are wrong so everyone who encounters them also knows they are wrong and can shun them as well.
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