How To Combat Harmful Technology: Should Ads Be Banned?

[Phil Deakins]

The only ads I see with Amazon Prime are before a programme starts, and it's for another Prime programme, which is fair enough, imo.

Ads that I would like to be banned are for casinos. The only thing they advertise is for us to give them money and get nothing for it, except the very small chance of occasionally getting a bit of money back. I'm not a gambler, so the ads don't affect me in the slightest, but I am dead against companies advertising on TV for people to simply give them money for nothing in return.

[Nick0678]

I filter ads so wouldn't care if they get banned or not and also manage to avoid data collection for now. (until the AI algorithm improves a lot which will happen soon.)  Also i don't pay for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon etc and never will just to watch movies, even if they make it 0.01EUR/year.

 

[Anna Nova]

Brave.  Don't see ads on Youtube at all.

[StarlanderGoods]

Ads? Not even once.

[Max Quirky]

So you will never buy another computer game as the only way news of them gets is through ads or influencers being given a "free" copy for a "review".

You will never buy any more clothing or items you see in a film or on TV that the manufacturer either gave to the production company or paid for them to be seen?

 

[Theresa Tennyson]

9 hours ago, Paulsian said:

That's smart wonder if it works with sling and hulu. Amazon Prime, Netflix, & Disney+ are great but i'm sure they are gathering data to sell to the mad aders 

Theresa Tennyson sighs.

So do the free services you use; that's why they're free.

[Theresa Tennyson]

8 hours ago, Paulsian said:

Maybe 1 ad per content and ad must contain information like who paid for the ad

I imagine most ads will show the shocking information that they were paid by the provider of the goods or services that they're advertising.

[Ceka Cianci]

I pretty much tune out adds because my mind is usually on something else when they show up..The whole 3 seconds before the skip shows up..

[Sid Nagy]

Producing content costs money.
That money has to be raked in somehow. So one has to pay for the content to watch, hear or use. In a brick and mortar store you pay for a licence and a copy. Online you pay for a subscription or when it is a "free" service it is payed by the advertisements. Same goes for radio and TV.
Or the government has to step in somehow like with the BBC in the UK and ARD and ZDF in Germany. Than you pay extra taxes.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Product placement is one of the used techniques to rake in money for the production.
And yes, production companies are normally in it for the money, so they try to make a profit from it as well.

Those are all basics.
So why is it discussed in the first place?

Edited February 11, 2022 by Sid Nagy

[Theresa Tennyson]

11 hours ago, Matilda Melune said:

Well if they paid my bills I would be more then happy to watch them. 😁

They pay the bill that you're not being sent to watch what the ads are appearing on.

Edited February 11, 2022 by Theresa Tennyson

[Silent Mistwalker]

[Arielle Popstar]

They should be paying us for the opportunity to indoctrinate the population!

 

 

[Myntz Mysterious]

1 hour ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

They pay the bill that you're not being sent to watch what the ads are appearing on.

[Kimmi Zehetbauer]

6 hours ago, Sid Nagy said:

Producing content costs money.
That money has to be raked in somehow. So one has to pay for the content to watch, hear or use. In a brick and mortar store you pay for a licence and a copy. Online you pay for a subscription or when it is a "free" service it is payed by the advertisements. Same goes for radio and TV.
Or the government has to step in somehow like with the BBC in the UK and ARD and ZDF in Germany. Than you pay extra taxes.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Product placement is one of the used techniques to rake in money for the production.
And yes, production companies are normally in it for the money, so they try to make a profit from it as well.

Those are all basics.
So why is it discussed in the first place?

For internet Ads --- the blockers came into play when they started using flash ads or ones with sounds. And some ads contained a payload to put a virus on your machine. If everyone would've stuck to the basic banner ad, the blockers probably wouldn't be a thing.

[StarlanderGoods]

Its a bit of a stretch to call them "harmful", sure sometimes you get the pragerU add and that can be harmful, but most of the times they are just annoying, no one wants to be annoyed.

There are some adds that I like, the ones made by the people producing the content, on-air reads and such, because they are just more content from the creators that you like, two big examples that come to mind are "Internet Comment Etiquette" who has incredible ads in his videos, and the podcast "C*m Town" with on-air reads.

But if the add is some external thing that is going to play over what Im watching or listening, Im just going to block it, everyone should.

[CaithLynnSayes]

I also block ads through various means. when i do see an ad, i don't freaking fall for it!

OP, Ads can, and often are based on your browser history. So you getting those types of ads does say something about yourself. Also OP, i've seen a couple of your posts and threads here. I'm saying this because i care, so don't chew me up for it... you're kind of gullible...

[Sprout Evergarden]

if you are not using uBlock Origin, sponsor block and Restore YouTube Dislikes you are not doing YouTube right.    If you are Not using the EFF's "Privacy badger" and Firefoxes Ability to make Sandboxes for Sketchy Websites like Google, Facebook ,Twitter, Netflix and any other evil compony that makes 90% + of its prophets from data brokerage your not doing the internet right.

And if you are using windows and not using a program like "privatezilla" to block all of Microsoft's Shenanigans you should get on that ASAP

internet companies get away with too much hinky stuff because we just accept it

  

[Solar Legion]

I see the usual types have come out of the woodwork ...

Firefox? No thanks - I prefer being allowed to choose what plug-ins I want to use (among other things).

Worried about what YouTube et al are doing? Get off the Internet - your ISP can (and likely does) do worse, no matter what you believe/your country's laws state.

Current Browser? Brave. No need for uBlock or Privacy Badger and I get to determine if a plug-in is risky for myself.

[StarlanderGoods]

30 minutes ago, Solar Legion said:

I see the usual types have come out of the woodwork ...

Firefox? No thanks - I prefer being allowed to choose what plug-ins I want to use (among other things).

Worried about what YouTube et al are doing? Get off the Internet - your ISP can (and likely does) do worse, no matter what you believe/your country's laws state.

Current Browser? Brave. No need for uBlock or Privacy Badger and I get to determine if a plug-in is risky for myself.

Absolutely, if anyone isn´t doing exactly the same thing you are doing, why are they even alive? 

[Solar Legion]

2 minutes ago, StarlanderGoods said:

Absolutely, if anyone isn´t doing exactly the same thing you are doing, why are they even alive? 

Not at all what I said or implied - in general.

Concerning the "concern" over what some companies are doing? Yes, I most certainly will call out such paranoia when I see it as that is exactly what it is. Use the tools available to secure some privacy, certainly. Don't pretend/believe for a moment that it is enough and be ok with that.

You can put your personal spin away.

Edited February 12, 2022 by Solar Legion

[Silent Mistwalker]

6 minutes ago, StarlanderGoods said:

Absolutely, if anyone isn´t doing exactly the same thing you are doing, why are they even alive? 

The same could be said of this post.

50 minutes ago, Vanessa Amethyst said:

if you are not using uBlock Origin, sponsor block and Restore YouTube Dislikes you are not doing YouTube right.    If you are Not using the EFF's "Privacy badger" and Firefoxes Ability to make Sandboxes for Sketchy Websites like Google, Facebook ,Twitter, Netflix and any other evil compony that makes 90% + of its prophets from data brokerage your not doing the internet right.

And if you are using windows and not using a program like "privatezilla" to block all of Microsoft's Shenanigans you should get on that ASAP

internet companies get away with too much hinky stuff because we just accept it

  

 

[Sprout Evergarden]

18 minutes ago, Solar Legion said:

I see the usual types have come out of the woodwork ...

Firefox? No thanks - I prefer being allowed to choose what plug-ins I want to use (among other things).

Worried about what YouTube et al are doing? Get off the Internet - your ISP can (and likely does) do worse, no matter what you believe/your country's laws state.

Current Browser? Brave. No need for uBlock or Privacy Badger and I get to determine if a plug-in is risky for myself.

I don't exactly use "true" Firefox i am quite happy with Librewolf  which is a fork of Firefox made to be more privacy aware as well as fixes some of Mozilla's more recent blunders the big issue i have with brave is it is Yet another chromium based browser Chrome-Chromium at this point is a worse web monopoly than Internet explorer was latest with IE we had some rendering engine diversity as of now we only have Mozilla directives with the gecko engine  Everything else is Derived from Chrome which uses a Fork of a Fork web engine called blink which is a fork of Apples WebKit which is a fork of the KDE Project's KHTML / KJS

As far as my ISP is concerned them passing any information without a warrant is illegal and that includes selling it to advertisers

as far as brave it does not do as good of a job as the extensions also see above. secondly it does not have decent fingerprint blocking

[Solar Legion]

That's nice.

[Sid Nagy]

Best is, to only browse offline without ever logging in. Like in a newspaper, a magazine or at the library.
Just rip out the advertisement pages you come across. (Don't let the librarian catch you.)

Edited February 12, 2022 by Sid Nagy

[CaithLynnSayes]

What's with the browser shaming? Are you all 12 or something? I really don't care what Microsoft, Google or Zuckerberg try to collect from me. As i said, i block ads, I don't see ads on youtube. or any website. What ads can they serve me by watching me when i block them anyway? So if you need to shame me for using Chrome or something. go ahead, i'll let you know as soon as i care. Probably at the same time all the trees in the world have the exact same thickness.

 

As for that plugin to bring back youtube dislikes, i have that one. We all know why youtube did that, but i won't go political