Re: Gacha Missing and EMPTY BOXES....

[Scylla Rhiadra]

1 hour ago, Orwar said:

But hey, as long as Fairre can build cheap tea rooms with the draw weight to fell an ox, right?

 

1 hour ago, FairreLilette said:

Get off your high horse already, Orwar. 

Hey, you two. Don't make me come in there. 

[FairreLilette]

2 hours ago, RunawayBunny said:

It is partially true if you like item in a gacha machine only possible way to obtain it playing game.

No, this is not true.  There are bazillions of pages on Marketplace of Gachas as well as whole second-hand Gacha shopping sims.  

People can re-sell their items or their doubles.  

[FairreLilette]

33 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

 

Hey, you two. Don't make me come in there. 

I think this thread is about done.  It's old and was zepphrered or whatever the word is to which I have no idea.  

But, I think Orwar was going down a slippery slope and landing on his boom-a-rang and that's not my problem.  I do have to get back to work.  

Not to mention, the Dinkies and Tinies are the real beautiful people here.  Oh, eyes that cannot see.  The Dinkies could be a No. 1 Hit TV show of the world they are that cute and beautiful.  Orwar a No.1 hit TV show, nevva gonna happen.

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Silent Mistwalker]

34 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

Not to mention, the Dinkies and Tinies are the real beautiful people here. 

 

Wow. That's just. Wow. I can't believe you posted that.

[FairreLilette]

5 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

 

Wow. That's just. Wow. I can't believe you posted that.

Oh, he deserved it after what he wrote.  But, they still are the beautiful people here and actually it's ironic because they don't know it.  Many of us have the personas of 3-year-olds, that is why I said they are beautiful people because they are not vain, and, at 3 years old, don't even know what beautiful means.  If you are not in the scene, you wouldn't understand it, the innocence of it all.  

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Silent Mistwalker]

2 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

Oh, he deserved it after what he wrote.  But, they still are the beautiful people here and actually it's ironic because they don't know it.  Many of us have the personas of 3-year-olds, that is why I said they are beautiful people because they are not vain, and, at 3 years old, don't even know what beautiful means.  If you are not in the scene, you wouldn't understand it, the innocence of it all.  

So because one person "deserved it" it's ok to include everyone? I don't think so but I'm not going to argue about it either. If he was acting like a 3 year old, you just acted like a 2 year old. No one wins anything and everyone loses. Makes me glad I'm not one of the "beautiful people". 

[Finite]

[FairreLilette]

47 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

So because one person "deserved it" it's ok to include everyone? I don't think so but I'm not going to argue about it either. If he was acting like a 3 year old, you just acted like a 2 year old. No one wins anything and everyone loses. Makes me glad I'm not one of the "beautiful people". 

No, you don't get it and you are just being crabby and negative...because I said "we" meaning Dinkies and tinies are like 3-year-olds, not him.  And that is precious and beautiful and quite often beautiful beyond words.  Also, Dinkies and tinies are NOT people so it was half a joke because I'm not talking about physical beauty and vanity in the first place, which 3-year-olds tend to not exhibit.  

Nevermind.  Jeeeesh.

[FairreLilette]

9 minutes ago, Finite said:

She's always been crabby and sometimes the negativity and the whole negative vibe is just here on this forum and it's not because of lack of marijuana.  It's because negative is cool or something.  This forum has always had problems with major crab-apples.  Sorry, just being honest about it for the first time.  

I have requested thread closure.  It's an old thread and those empty boxes are no more as it was years ago, and the rest is off topic.  If people are grown up enough to want to talk about Gachas and gambling or addiction, start a thread on it.  That simple. 

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[LittleMe Jewell]

26 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

I have requested thread closure.

The thread is still a valid topic and it is a relevant topic as it does still happen sometimes.

The back-and-forth personal stuff just needs to stop.

[FairreLilette]

29 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

The thread is still a valid topic and it is a relevant topic as it does still happen sometimes.

The back-and-forth personal stuff just needs to stop.

Well, I already requested closure and thought about it early in the day as it went off topic on the 3rd response after pulled up after years.

If it happens, one needs to contact the seller first by notecard as most IM's are capped, and if no response, one is out their money.  

As far as other's ragging in this thread, it was not necessary, but those two are often very negative and/or don't read, or are just causing trouble on purpose as well as being drama king/queen unnecessarily.  

I hope the thread is closed as I already know it's going to go off topic more.  

EDIT:  Unless Marketplace could/would accept mod/transfer items unboxed only which cannot happen and since MP cannot do that, there is no way to fix the problem.  Buy used Gachas inworld at yardsales and Gacha sims.  I was a newbie when I wrote this thread and didn't understand how a box could be empty.  It could happen with any box, be empty, even copy/mod items that are boxed, and I didn't understand how boxes worked because I was a newbie.  There is no way to fix "the box" problem no matter what perms.

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Rowan Amore]

35 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

I didn't understand how boxes worked because I was a newbie.

The thread is from 2019.  

[FairreLilette]

3 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

 

Hey, you two. Don't make me come in there. 

 

3 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

4 hours ago, FairreLilette said:

Get off your high horse already, Orwar. 

Hey, you two. Don't make me come in there. 

And, no, Scylla, I said for Orwar to get off his high horse because that is what he said to me when I told him people shop differently because he feels full perm items or whatever he was saying are in the same price category...like he was telling me or the audience how to shop.  I shop all different ways.

This is what Orwar said first and he also said he came into the thread just to rant about Gacha but ended up being vicious towards me.  

   Orwar said:  "Are you honestly suggesting that you think that you know better than I do, because our opinions on gachas differ? Get off your high horse and pull your head out of your ****."

 

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Me again here speaking...

Besides, it was a back and forth between two people.  I don't feel other people needed to jump in and be nasty also.  

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[FairreLilette]

29 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

The thread is from 2019.  

I never knew how boxes work as I became a seller here on my 3rd time in SL.  When I became a seller I did not box items...I have only been boxing items for about a year now.  When I started selling all my items were in the CONTENTS which I later found out about by clicking the tab.  I assumed all items were in the CONTENTS tab.  However, with a Gacha item, the name is usually the same as the box exactly.  

There is no way for the CONTENTS to be read if the items are in a box no matter what the perms.  I somehow just assumed there were when I found the CONTENTS tab on MP.  But, again, with Gachas the name is the exact same as the box.  

There is also no way to fix the problem as I wrote above no matter what the perms in the box are unless a complete overhaul happens where CONTENTS can be read at all times, and that is most likely not going to happen.  

CONTENTS is not really the contents unless the item is unboxed.  Look up Dela Hair and her hairs as she does not box items and the reader just reads the contents of her folders when she lists.

And, since the Gacha box and item are almost always the same, the title could be MY COMPANY BLING BLING BLING in Purple, and then the CONTENTS will read MY COMPANY BLING BLING BLING in Purple because the contents cannot actually read the contents of any boxed items; it it's boxed items, it reads only the box.  So I did not know that.  Contents threw me on that.  

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Scylla Rhiadra]

32 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

Besides, it was a back and forth between two people.  I don't feel other people needed to jump in and be nasty also.

With respect, I don't think I was being "nasty." I was being jokey, in the (obviously vain) hope that a bit of levity might lighten the mood a little. Orwar clearly picked up on this; I'm sorry that you didn't.

There is nothing in this thread, or in the substance of the disagreement between you and Orwar, to warrant getting angry at each other. We're talking about gachas and dinkies, not climate change. I do think that stepping back a bit from this thread for a little might be a good idea.

[FairreLilette]

6 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

With respect, I don't think I was being "nasty." I was being jokey,

I didn't say whom was nasty but I did not mean you.  

I would like the thread pulled as there is no way to fix the problem of any boxed items no matter what the perms and the word CONTENTS cannot read contents of a box only a folder.

I felt Orwar, due to his hate of Gachas, was taking it out on me, and he needs to live and let live already.  This is not a Gacha ranting thread or get to nasty to others because they like Gacha.   And then puts down Dinkies and tinies!

I hope the thread is locked soon.  I've had enough of this bs!

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Orwar]

4 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

We're talking about gachas and dinkies, not climate change.

   No, no - don't set her off on the course of how dinkies are better for the environment again!*

   *t'is a joke. 

[Prokofy Neva]

7 hours ago, Paul Hexem said:

Don't take it up with me, take it up with lawmakers.

When you go to a casino and use their chips to gamble, it's still gambling.

Linden Dollars would be treated the same as EA's credits and Activision's tokens, should said laws come to pass.

But I'm not the one making the claim that LL's tokens are vulnerable to some kind of gambling laws -- you are. And I'm not claiming some new laws are coming to pass that will affect virtual currency in virtual worlds -- you are. 

There are already laws against gambling on line -- against virtual poker. There have been years of such virtual currencies and scrutiny of them -- and no new laws other than the existing ones of the last 10 years. EA's credit are not taxed under such laws, so what's the point? The only reasonable thing that can be said -- and is always said whenever I hear this discussion from lawyers at conferences, etc. -- that taxation begins after someone cashes out. But that's always been the case. So you are also moving off the topic by invoking taxation of SL's coins or EA's credits -- when they aren't taxed and have years of scrutiny. Then you say that gatchas are going to be declared gambling -- but tokens buying intangibles won't fit under the definition -- until the merchant cashes out. I just don't see it. So you'd have to supply some indication of external articles, or discussions by Congress at hearings, or something in RL to make this point, not just your own conviction that this will come to pass.

[FairreLilette]

18 minutes ago, Orwar said:

   No, no - don't set her off on the course of how dinkies are better for the environment again!*

   *t'is a joke. 

I don't find it funny because you know I have a right to be a Dinkie and be on this board as a Dinkie without your sarcasm "Of, Oh no....reeeeeealy...blah, blah, blah bull towards Dinkies or what I've said.  You did the same rude stuff to a certain person who takes rather unusual photographs and it was none of your business how she takes photographs let alone crucify her in front of this whole board and that wasn't funny either.  She has every right to take photos however she wants without being ridiculed by you.  And, people have a right to use Gachas however they like unless the law says otherwise.  

And, btw, you are not funny either.  And, to top it all off, your pictures are too dark to be seen half the time.  So what makes you think you are such a great photographer?

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[Prokofy Neva]

1 hour ago, FairreLilette said:

Well, I already requested closure and thought about it early in the day as it went off topic on the 3rd response after pulled up after years.

If it happens, one needs to contact the seller first by notecard as most IM's are capped, and if no response, one is out their money.  

As far as other's ragging in this thread, it was not necessary, but those two are often very negative and/or don't read, or are just causing trouble on purpose as well as being drama king/queen unnecessarily.  

I hope the thread is closed as I already know it's going to go off topic more.  

EDIT:  Unless Marketplace could/would accept mod/transfer items unboxed only which cannot happen and since MP cannot do that, there is no way to fix the problem.  Buy used Gachas inworld at yardsales and Gacha sims.  I was a newbie when I wrote this thread and didn't understand how a box could be empty.  It could happen with any box, be empty, even copy/mod items that are boxed, and I didn't understand how boxes worked because I was a newbie.  There is no way to fix "the box" problem no matter what perms.

Gatcha items do not need to be in any kind of box, original or one you make, to sell on the MP. You can put them directly on.

[FairreLilette]

22 minutes ago, Prokofy Neva said:

Gatcha items do not need to be in any kind of box, original or one you make, to sell on the MP. You can put them directly on.

What?  I never said Gacha items NEED to be in a box.  As a matter of fact, NO items need to be in a box no matter what the perms.  All you do is right click on a folder in your inventory and select copy to marketplace even if the items are copy/mod, or full perm.  No items NEED to be in a box.  However, that does not mean that Gachas resellers don't put items back into their original box and/or perhaps accidentally put an empty box there.  Even someone selling copy/mod or copy/mod/transfer items could put (sell) an empty box on Marketplace.  

Edited March 3, 2021 by FairreLilette

[LittleMe Jewell]

2 hours ago, FairreLilette said:

Well, I already requested closure and thought about it early in the day as it went off topic on the 3rd response after pulled up after years.

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I hope the thread is closed as I already know it's going to go off topic more.  

Oh for goodness sakes - you are as much responsible for the off-topic crap in this thread as anyone else is.

[Prokofy Neva]

57 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

What?  I never said Gacha items NEED to be in a box.  As a matter of fact, NO items need to be in a box no matter what the perms.  All you do is right click on a folder in your inventory and select copy to marketplace even if the items are copy/mod, or full perm.  No items NEED to be in a box.  However, that does not mean that Gachas resellers don't put items back into their original box and/or perhaps accidentally put an empty box there.  Even someone selling copy/mod or copy/mod/transfer items could put (sell) an empty box on Marketplace.  

Well, read what I wrote above, which explains in my experience it is rare. It has never happened to me in thousands of purchases for at least 5 years now. It has has happened that others claimed non-deliveries to me; in 2 cases I found them in "Unlisted" and in one it was never found.

Many gatcha makers put their box on no-mod so that you drag them item out into your inventory, or it has a script to pop it into your inventory, but you can't put it back in the box. Of course you can copy its name and put it in a plywood box. Some people make a point of making their own gatcha re-sale "brand" and put everything in their own boxes.

 

 

[Paul Hexem]

3 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:

But I'm not the one making the claim that LL's tokens are vulnerable to some kind of gambling laws -- you are. And I'm not claiming some new laws are coming to pass that will affect virtual currency in virtual worlds -- you are. 

Am not.

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Edited March 3, 2021 by Paul Hexem

[FairreLilette]

9 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Oh for goodness sakes - you are as much responsible for the off-topic crap in this thread as anyone else is.

If I want the thread locked why should I care if it goes off topic?  I requested it locked and unfortunately it's still here so you all can give each other some more likes.