Denim Robonaught Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: So, change your sim to Moderate? And then I have an entire adult zone on a moderate sim 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innula Zenovka Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Denim Robonaught said: No? they just got forbidden access to a ton of islands, which aren't always fully adult. Maturity ratings are set at the region level. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayashe Ninetails Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Qie Niangao said: Dumb question I'm too lazy to check: Is there a Senra child avatar? Could/should there be, all pre-modesty'd and all? No, just Jamie and...what's his face? Bob? Max? *peeks* Oh, Blake. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Denim Robonaught said: which aren't always fully adult. when your region is moderate, as there's only one option to choose, there's nothing keeping you from giving access to the M side .. could be a workable situation. or... and... perhaps... post a feature request for private regions to have a split rating. Edited May 2 by Alwin Alcott 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Denim Robonaught said: No? they just got forbidden access to a ton of islands, which aren't always fully adult. If the participation of child avatars is a valued part of the social interactions in such places, then it will be worth their while to change their ratings to Moderate. Region owners are going to have a decision here: what is more important to them? Adult activities, or kiddie avatars? As Coffee and others have noted previously, the main differences between Moderate and Adult are that 1) sex can't be "public" in M-rated areas, and 2) you can only advertise Adult events for A-rated areas. And honest, sorry . . . I don't think kid avatars should be hanging around places where there is public sexuality. That would violate nearly every other part of these rules. 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Wanna risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, Denim Robonaught said: And then I have an entire adult zone on a moderate sim Yeah, what Innula said. I don't think that works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nika Talaj Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Quote Updated our internal Policies and Procedures Implemented personnel changes Odd that personnel changes were made, given that no wrongdoing was found during their investigation. Seems drastic. As usual, I find myself wishing I were a fly on the wall and heard what the new internal policies are, and what personnel changes were made. Does anyone else think Patch is much less inworld-accessible than previously? It could be that he's simply busy, with added marketing responsibilities, I guess. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Region owners are going to have a decision here: what is more important to them? Adult activities, or kiddie avatars? This bans child avatars. It’s just region owners acting out of fear rather than LL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Q: If someone is walking through a region wearing exposed genitalia and walks past me (a child avatar), will I be in trouble if someone takes a picture and reports me? A: No, our investigative process can determine accidental exposure. Again, child avatars should not be engaging or participating in any event or location where nudity and/or sexual activity is present, encouraged and/or expected. The presence of adult content does not warrant the expectation of use. 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said: From the new FAQ Thanks for the link to this, they sure covered a lot! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I admit I didn't read the new ToS because not agreeing just wasn't an option for me. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Coffee Pancake said: This bans child avatars. It’s just region owners acting out of fear rather than LL. I think that will often be the case, yes. But these rules are much clearer than the older ones; there's less room for ambiguity, and hence for fear of ARs. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Garnet Psaltery said: I admit I didn't read the new ToS because not agreeing just wasn't an option for me. What don't you agree with exactly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Thank goodness for this thread, a chance to catch my breath from another thread! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Nika Talaj said: Odd that personnel changes were made, given that no wrongdoing was found during their investigation. covering business risks for the next weirdo that post accusations about bs .. it was already predicted users would pay the price 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 When the punishment for them getting it wrong is an all accounts perma ban. I’m glad to see the appeal process remains unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 minutes ago, Denim Robonaught said: And then I have an entire adult zone on a moderate sim No part of a Moderate region can be re-rated as Adult. Whatever the region rating is, thats the maximum setting for any parcel within the region. You can choose to go down, make your parcel G instead of M, but you can't make it Adult. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Stand next to afk child avatar naked. Report. derender clothing of adults near child avatars. Report. Derender clothing of child avatar. Report. So you saying false report them? If that is the case, you are basically breaking TOS to falsely report them. Edited May 2 by Sammy Huntsman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Garnet Psaltery said: I admit I didn't read the new ToS because not agreeing just wasn't an option for me. Just now, Sammy Huntsman said: What don't you agree with exactly? I didn't read it so I don't know if there is anything in it with which I disagree. I was simply expressing the impossibility of not wanting to go into SL again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, Nika Talaj said: given that no wrongdoing was found during their investigation There was a second-hand report that one Linden had said this -- but that was before Oberwager's blog post. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think there has been any further communication on the outcome of any investigation. These changes are the first really visible results we've seen? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: When the punishment for them getting it wrong is an all accounts perma ban. I’m glad to see the appeal process remains unchanged. That's always been true. And, again, these rules are much less ambiguous. There's much less chance of an "unfortunate accident" now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Skims through back and forth a little. Still no clear definition of what constitutes a 'child avatar' though? Short/petite people in adult areas still living on the edge? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: And, again, these rules are much less ambiguous. There's much less chance of an "unfortunate accident" now. I think there is a perception that with the recent attention on the topic, and the changes in rules, that there will be a closer look at violations / more reports, etc. Not necessarily true, unless things were going unreported - one would hope! But on the positive side, if people DO follow the new rules, then there should be LESS violations / reporting etc. IMHO <= disclaimer 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nika Talaj Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: There was a second-hand report that one Linden had said this -- but that was before Oberwager's blog post. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think there has been any further communication on the outcome of any investigation. These changes are the first really visible results we've seen? I was referring to this, from the blog post we're discussing, the one Oberwager just dropped. Quote We recently posted our initial response to community concerns about alleged violations of company and community policies by employees, contractors, and community members. Since that time, we have conducted multiple thorough investigations to look closely at whether there were specific infractions or problematic interactions that needed us to take action. The investigation determined that all Lindens and contractors have stayed in compliance with our own community guidelines, as well as unwritten, ethical guidelines. I do not make this statement lightly, and I know there will be plenty of discussion. If no infractions of policy at all, why make personnel changes? 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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