Myntz Mysterious Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Oh boy, more running around in Tama circles again.... 🥴 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysistrata Szapira Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I used to have a MySpace page (yeah, I'm dating myself with that). I lost EVERYTHING after the mass exodus, including a lot of damn fine blogs and photos that I was stupid enough NOT to save offline. Yes, I was pissed off for a time, but then I shrugged after allowing one hour to be angry and moved on with my life. I had a free website on an ISP when I lived with my Mother. When I moved away, I lost that free host. My html code was saved on a 3.5" floppy. I cannot access any of that now. Again I shrugged and moved on with my life. HTML is old news, and all of my hard work creating mouseover graphics is positively primitive now. For the most part the internet is ephemeral, like fairy dust. I don't see any point in getting overly attached to it. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I remember when they use to say anything you put on the internet would be out there forever. They lied. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, kali Wylder said: I remember when they use to say anything you put on the internet would be out there forever. They lied. It's there forever when you don't want it to be............... and gone when you want to find it. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lysistrata Szapira said: I used to have a MySpace page (yeah, I'm dating myself with that). I lost EVERYTHING after the mass exodus, including a lot of damn fine blogs and photos that I was stupid enough NOT to save offline. I was going to do a thread called 'MySpace memories' but I didn't think anyone here would be interested...but yes, I remember those days, I actually miss them a lot... Also, I was quite foolish and deleted my SL account around 2015, but though it got reinstated, I pretty much lost all my inventory, including rare one off items that I made and that others made for me 😐 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rat Luv said: I was going to do a thread called 'MySpace memories' but I didn't think anyone here would be interested...but yes, I remember those days, I actually miss them a lot... Also, I was quite foolish and deleted my SL account around 2015, but though it got reinstated, I pretty much lost all my inventory, including rare one off items that I made and that others made for me 😐 I rp'd on MySpace. I was Claude Monet and Sulamith Wülfing as well as myself. I made beautiful html with all of their pictures and some history. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modulated Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Tama Suki said: This was exactly the bait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiyumei Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, kali Wylder said: I remember when they use to say anything you put on the internet would be out there forever. They lied. It's every developer's dream is to drop production database and pull the plug on the servers 😄 Edited January 24, 2022 by Aiyumei 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It's called the digital black hole. In the future, historians will not be able to tell what we did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akane Nacht Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Virtual traces of me will probably be around long after physical me is gone. I hope if/when SL permanently goes offline they snapshot it and store it intact somewhere, like a virtual Pompeii to puzzle future generations of digital archeologists. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Toxx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Tama Suki said: 9 hours ago, Sid Nagy said: I'm aware. Now what? What about what? He means what conclusion do you draw from the circumstance that online things are ephemeral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ren Toxx said: He means what conclusion do you draw from the circumstance that online things are ephemeral. I'm afraid this is your interpretation but not exactly what Sid meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Toxx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tama Suki said: I'm afraid this is your interpretation but not exactly what Sid meant. Nevertheless, what is your conclusion to the circumstance you exposed in your original post? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ren Toxx said: Nevertheless, what is your conclusion to the circumstance you exposed in your original post? I think it is more or less the same as many others and that is that everything is ephemeral. But perhaps the opposite is also true, namely that our life in flesh and blood is even more ephemeral. What is your opinion instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Toxx Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tama Suki said: What is your opinion instead? Well, you see, it’s a bit like stating that the Sun comes out from the East, and inviting others to say what they think about it. You would get a vast majority who are, indeed, aware of it—plus, I imagine, a few who are either unaware of it, or even the odd ones believing it does not come out from the East. But by and large, and as Sid said, it’s a given fact. So it is that online stuff isn’t guaranteed eternal. Therefore, when one states a given fact like the Sun coming out from the East, or online things being ephemeral, usually what one is actually inviting is to draw further conclusions FROM that fact. Or, in your own words, “elements that need to be discussed about it”. Otherwise it merely is a technical exchange, and not really a matter of ‘opinion’, on the exact reliability of online servers, something we’re arguably hard-pressed to pontificate on since most of us aren’t the maintainers of those servers... or the long-term willingness of those same maintainers to keep maintaining them, which we’re equally hard-pressed to elaborate on, and for the same reason. That’s why I enjoined Sid’s question as to what was your conclusion FROM the above stated fact; all the more since it’s a great inspiration of yours, and therefore you surely have one conclusion or another to share with us, while you ask us to do the same. Cheers 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ren Toxx said: Well, you see, it’s a bit like stating that the Sun comes out from the East, and inviting others to say what they think about it. You would get a vast majority who are, indeed, aware of it—plus, I imagine, a few who are either unaware of it, or even the odd ones believing it does not come out from the East. But by and large, and as Sid said, it’s a given fact. So it is that online stuff isn’t guaranteed eternal. Therefore, when one states a given fact like the Sun coming out from the East, or online things being ephemeral, usually what one is actually inviting is to draw further conclusions FROM that fact. Or, in your own words, “elements that need to be discussed about it”. Otherwise it merely is a technical exchange, and not really a matter of ‘opinion’, on the exact reliability of online servers, something we’re arguably hard-pressed to pontificate on since most of us aren’t the maintainers of those servers... or the long-term willingness of those same maintainers to keep maintaining them, which we’re equally hard-pressed to elaborate on, and for the same reason. That’s why I enjoined Sid’s question as to what was your conclusion FROM the above stated fact; all the more since it’s a great inspiration of yours, and therefore you surely have one conclusion or another to share with us, while you ask us to do the same. Cheers 🙂 I think you have enriched the thread as others have done with your opinion which remains your opinion and which may or may not be useful for some. I am very interested in the argument you added regarding knowledge of things and that only experts on a subject have the right faculties to express themselves on that subject. On the other hand, it is also true that if I am in town and I'm hungry and I see a restaurant with a menu displayed that I don't like, I don't go into the restaurant to tell the waiter that I don't want to have lunch there because I don't like the menu, but I go and look for another restaurant where I like the menu. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Not to divert the thread but factually the Sun does not come out of the East as the Sun is static and it is the Earth that moves in relation to it. Unless of course we are talking about geocentricity or a flat Earth. I don't know how that relates to the general theme of the thread but just thought I'd throw that in there. 😁 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Not to divert the thread but factually the Sun does not come out of the East as the Sun is static and it is the Earth that moves in relation to it. Unless of course we are talking about geocentricity or a flat Earth. I don't know how that relates to the general theme of the thread but just thought I'd throw that in there. 😁 Instead, I believe your contribution is excellent. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tama Suki said: Instead, I believe your contribution is excellent. 😛 Proves the adage that if one throws enough mud against the wall, something will stick! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Proves the adage that if one throws enough mud against the wall, something will stick! However, returning to the topic, Toxx with his contribution made me think that our real life is probably more ephemeral than our virtual one. If you think about it, everything we've done online will continue to outlive us for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Tama Suki said: So you think this great inspiration of mine needs to be closed in such an abrupt way? Don't you think there may be elements that need to be discussed? Everything you put online from day one no longer belongs to you. It could disappear anyway from one day to the next. You actually have no control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenaNavy92 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Imagine that Second life just shut down. And so what? If I die tomorrow? What can I do about it? Nothing. So there's nothing to discuss. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, HelenaNavy92 said: Imagine that Second life just shut down. And so what? If I die tomorrow? What can I do about it? Nothing. So there's nothing to discuss. Imagine if your bank account disappeared too. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Things I would not like to imagine: SL gone bank account gone me, gone 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Suki Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 hours ago, kali Wylder said: I rp'd on MySpace. I was Claude Monet and Sulamith Wülfing as well as myself. I made beautiful html with all of their pictures and some history. A few years ago walking into a shop that repairs cell phones to fix mine (broken screen, a classic) there was a girl who was asking the salesman with tears in her eyes how she could recover all her photos from Facebook because they had burned her account and everything was gone. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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