Are you afraid of the future?

[Pamela Galli]

23 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

Certainly. because those who get vaccinated are much less likely to end up in intensive care or die. They may always be affected by the disease but they will pass it like a simple cold. Most of those dying now are idiots who didn't want to get vaccinated.

You think so? Read some of the comments from those who had long covid:

@Alyssa_Milano

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Jan 13Replying to

@AyannaPressley

Shortness of breath, heart palpitations, tingling hands and feet, brain fog. Some days I’m fine. Some days I can’t get out of bed. It needs to be talked about period. Every time we mention covid, we should be talking about that it doesn’t go away.

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David Davison

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Jan 13Replying to

@AyannaPressley

We need to have supports in place for people without positive PCR tests. I got sick in March 2020 with a suspected case of COVID-19, but when I mention my long-COVID doctors badger me about not having a test: but there were no tests. Now, once again, there aren't enough tests.

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Increasingly, there are hints from researchers about what causes long-COVID. But doctors, by and large, remain ignorant of these findings. We need to have a plan in place to disseminate research to PCPs+specialists: given the reality that long-COVID affects *many* bodily systems.

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it get into the brain and organs, for one thing. i read a detailed (and dry) technical article on one patient in a medical journal.

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@AyannaPressley

I celebrate my 21 month covidaversary tomorrow. For 21 months I've had shortness of breath, lingering cough, fatigue, joint pain, gastrointestinal issues, and I'm now diabetic. We need to be listened to - we're the experts who live with this daily.

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@AyannaPressley

It’s not been “an experience” it’s been hell. It’s been torture. I have tried to do all the things to stay in the light. to find dignity and accept and heal but it’s cruel and inhumane to navigate it all. Urgent national coverage and immediate task force

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Hamadryad

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@AyannaPressley

23 months, 702 days into my LC battle. Stroke@12 months, brain, lung, intestinal & spinal damage. Neurological, cognitive & mobility issues. Parkinsons like tremors& debilitating pain every day. Denied ssdi & Medicaid 2x, no funds for medical care or meds. We need help!

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22 months in, conditions slowly worsened over time. With no health ins after I had to quit my job to apply for disability cause I can no longer tolerate being in an upright sitting position for more than 30 min. Need meaningful financial support that doesn't take a traumatic,

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This administration need to STOP hiding the disabling nature of this virus. Long COVID is not a "rare" outcome and it can happen to anyone including the vaxxed. Current policies are only creating MORE chronic illness and disability due to catastrophic transmission.

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Rosie B.

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My ex-husband is a covid longhauler. He got it 14 months ago and can still barely work. Our 20 yo is fully supporting him and our 17 yo who spends half her time with them. He only qualifies for $300/month in food stamps which doesn't last the whole month. Please do something.

[Tama Suki]

58 minutes ago, Pamela Galli said:

Read some of the comments

I am not interested in having information of this type on this issue in this forum, I am not interested in having them from anonymous people. If I want to find out, I do it on the official bodies of the health and statistical institutes titled by the state.
This thread has another topic.
Also your Member Title is quite controversial.
I would also like to understand the meaning of the wording "Advisor" under an account name and what it means in this forum to have it, but this is something that I will look for explanations elsewhere.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Tama Suki

[Mr Amore]

When humanity finally wakes up to climate change it's going to be too late, our priorities beyond the 2050's will be drastically different to today.

Colonizing space isn't possible with current technology, it may take 4 months to send a human to Mars but that person will be physically diminished upon their arrival. We aren't built for spaceflight, anything short of a warp drive isn't cutting it.

[Silent Mistwalker]

Humans tend to need to learn to crawl before they can learn to walk.

[Pamela Galli]

1 hour ago, Tama Suki said:

I am not interested in having information of this type on this issue in this forum, I am not interested in having them from anonymous people. If I want to find out, I do it on the official bodies of the health and statistical institutes titled by the state.
This thread has another topic.
Also your Member Title is quite controversial.
I would also like to understand the meaning of the wording "Advisor" under an account name and what it means in this forum to have it, but this is something that I will look for explanations elsewhere.

Okay, check it out on CDC.

I did not know I was an advisor until you mentioned it. I imagine it’s because I give such good advice.

[Tama Suki]

49 minutes ago, Mr Amore said:

When humanity finally wakes up to climate change it's going to be too late, our priorities beyond the 2050's will be drastically different to today.

Colonizing space isn't possible with current technology, it may take 4 months to send a human to Mars but that person will be physically diminished upon their arrival. We aren't built for spaceflight, anything short of a warp drive isn't cutting it.

I think for something that can really be called colinization it will take at least another 500 years. But I'm sure we'll get there.

[Qie Niangao]

8 hours ago, Tama Suki said:

I don't think there is a global famine 

Look a little closer at weather patterns in the temperate zone. Once-a-century derechos sweep the plains annually now, and over increasingly vast areas. At this rate, a year will arrive only rarely when it's possible to grow a crop on farms in the breadbasket, or anywhere else, without being ripped to shreds by the wind, not to mention the frequent floods, droughts, and fires, as the atmosphere heats up.

Climate change is not a smooth warming, gradually making it possible to grow bananas in Kansas City. Instead it's boiling the atmosphere in excess entropy, until the planet simply won't support more than the most primitive forms of life.

It's possible to fix it, but only with very invasive geoengineering. Keep blowing enough silica dust into the stratosphere to noticeably darken the sky, as one approach, and temperatures will revert to a livable range. This would have untold adverse effects—we have no idea—but it might possibly save the planet if started now, while enough civilization remains to support the launch technology.

[Tama Suki]

1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:

Look a little closer at weather patterns in the temperate zone. Once-a-century derechos sweep the plains annually now, and over increasingly vast areas. At this rate, a year will arrive only rarely when it's possible to grow a crop on farms in the breadbasket, or anywhere else, without being ripped to shreds by the wind, not to mention the frequent floods, droughts, and fires, as the atmosphere heats up.

Climate change is not a smooth warming, gradually making it possible to grow bananas in Kansas City. Instead it's boiling the atmosphere in excess entropy, until the planet simply won't support more than the most primitive forms of life.

It's possible to fix it, but only with very invasive geoengineering. Keep blowing enough silica dust into the stratosphere to noticeably darken the sky, as one approach, and temperatures will revert to a livable range. This would have untold adverse effects—we have no idea—but it might possibly save the planet if started now, while enough civilization remains to support the launch technology.

I too am convinced that climate change is an objective drama in progress and that we must run for cover as soon as possible but we are certainly not facing a global famine, not yet for sure. The European community has recently been enacting many new laws and restrictions on this issue. For example, the ban on the use of plastics for many uses, single-use products expecially, the ones that are destroyng oceans. The obligation to reduce emissions by steel mills or the huge investments that are being made in the transition from oil to electricity. Many business models have to change and this is already happening. But we must not live in the illusion that these changes can be made suddenly overnight. Not only because we need to change business models and it is difficult for us but also because the world has different economic models. We cannot expect poorer countries with an oil-focused economy to immediately adapt to our model. In this way the only result would be to feed further misery and conflict.
The talk of nuclear power as a solution to pollution has recently come back into fashion but we know that nuclear fission cannot guarantee 100% safety not only after the Chernobyl disaster but above all for what has happen in Fukushima and the disaster that was going on to happen in Belgium. Nuclear fission is unsafe and in fact many countries are shutting down their reactors, Germany is doing so for a long time. It would take the breakthrough and move from nuclear fission to nuclear fusion which is much safer and cleaner. We are not there yet but it seems that we are very close to this goal.

[Qie Niangao]

13 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

But we must not live in the illusion that these changes can be made suddenly overnight.

And overnight is already too late. If we magically stopped all man-made GHG emissions right now, the atmosphere would continue to warm for at least half a century before trending downward, by which time there won't be enough food production capacity to feed even the wealthiest survivors. Mere regulation would have helped fifty years ago, or maybe even twenty, but we're seeing that now it's too little, too late.

[Tama Suki]

8 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:

And overnight is already too late. If we magically stopped all man-made GHG emissions right now, the atmosphere would continue to warm for at least half a century before trending downward, by which time there won't be enough food production capacity to feed even the wealthiest survivors. Mere regulation would have helped fifty years ago, or maybe even twenty, but we're seeing that now it's too little, too late.

It would be nice to be able to do it but unfortunately it can't.
Unless you agree to build giant walls that separate the opulent world you and I live in and let the rest die in poverty while we eat hamburgers and drink coke.
I smile when I read about people who would like to stop globalization. Globalization is not a choice that has been made by someone but a natural process that cannot be stopped, you can only try to manage it in the best possible way and take advantages rather than defeats.

[Drake1 Nightfire]

1 hour ago, Tama Suki said:

I too am convinced that climate change is an objective drama in progress and that we must run for cover as soon as possible but we are certainly not facing a global famine, not yet for sure. The European community has recently been enacting many new laws and restrictions on this issue. For example, the ban on the use of plastics for many uses, single-use products expecially, the ones that are destroyng oceans. The obligation to reduce emissions by steel mills or the huge investments that are being made in the transition from oil to electricity. Many business models have to change and this is already happening. But we must not live in the illusion that these changes can be made suddenly overnight. Not only because we need to change business models and it is difficult for us but also because the world has different economic models. We cannot expect poorer countries with an oil-focused economy to immediately adapt to our model. In this way the only result would be to feed further misery and conflict.
The talk of nuclear power as a solution to pollution has recently come back into fashion but we know that nuclear fission cannot guarantee 100% safety not only after the Chernobyl disaster but above all for what has happen in Fukushima and the disaster that was going on to happen in Belgium. Nuclear fission is unsafe and in fact many countries are shutting down their reactors, Germany is doing so for a long time. It would take the breakthrough and move from nuclear fission to nuclear fusion which is much safer and cleaner. We are not there yet but it seems that we are very close to this goal.

Funny, I live 30 miles from a nuclear power plant. Never had any issues. I enjoy low cost energy. They are moving the power lines underground so we dont lose power in the winter due to downed lines.

Solar and wind power cost immense amounts of fossil fuels and rare earth elements to create, hardly the green energy they say it is. 

[Tama Suki]

28 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Funny, I live 30 miles from a nuclear power plant. Never had any issues. I enjoy low cost energy. They are moving the power lines underground so we dont lose power in the winter due to downed lines.

Solar and wind power cost immense amounts of fossil fuels and rare earth elements to create, hardly the green energy they say it is. 

I don't know what to tell you my friend.
The only thing I can be sure of is that the Germans are not crazy being one of the most powerful economies in the world and if they are shutting down their nuclear power plants there must be a reason.
They are always safer with technological progress but there is always the risk that some catastrophic event could occur as happened in Fukushima and since there are 56 active in France I am not very serene because an accident in one of them would be enough so that the next day I can wake up one morning with phosphorescent skin and a third eye peeking out at the nape of my neck. By the way, the French are the ones who in the past years have enjoyed making several nuclear experiments destroying several kilometers of natural paradises. They enjoyed it until someone decided to ban it.

However, I do not know if you know but building and maintain in function a nuclear power plant has a gigantic cost, sometimes it is greater than the benefit.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Tama Suki

[Innula Zenovka]

1 hour ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Funny, I live 30 miles from a nuclear power plant. Never had any issues. I enjoy low cost energy. They are moving the power lines underground so we dont lose power in the winter due to downed lines.

Solar and wind power cost immense amounts of fossil fuels and rare earth elements to create, hardly the green energy they say it is. 

The problem with nuclear is that it's now impossible to raise private finance to build plants unless national governments are prepared to underwrite the costs of storing the hazardous waste they produce and, eventually, decommissioning the plants, and treasuries and central banks are very unwilling to support such ideas.

Nuclear requires massive and continuing government subsidies, that is, but the bills don't start to pile up until quite late on in the plant's lifespan, and then they're going to keep on coming for centuries.   Private investors nowadays won't touch it unless they're guaranteed they'll get the profits and the taxpayer will pick up the clean-up costs.   Or, in other words, we get the cheap energy and our children and  grandchildren (and several subsequent generations) get stuck with the bill.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Innula Zenovka

[Ceka Cianci]

19 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

What good is Earth history going to do them on an alien world? None. They are creating their own history that only has its origins on Earth and will never involve Earth. They will be completely on their own, no support or rescue from Earth because it won't exist (yet). It can't because humans wouldn't have made it that far. We won't have outposts established until we build them.

It was just an example of how we pass along information through the generations..

It's like a grape vine that gets distorted more and more each generation.

[Tama Suki]

10 hours ago, Mr Amore said:

When humanity finally wakes up to climate change it's going to be too late, our priorities beyond the 2050's will be drastically different to today.

Colonizing space isn't possible with current technology, it may take 4 months to send a human to Mars but that person will be physically diminished upon their arrival. We aren't built for spaceflight, anything short of a warp drive isn't cutting it.

We are not even built to fly at a height of 5000 meters at a speed of 1000 kilometers per hour but we do it every day thousands of times.
We are not even built to travel in submarines that dive thousands of meters into the ocean depths and yet we do.
I really don't understand what this low esteem in mankind is due to. But I'm really starting to be intrigued.

[Ayeleeon]

We always look around and see all the bad, and we miss the fact that overall things get better as time progresses, so no I am not afraid of the future.

[Theresa Tennyson]

3 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Funny, I live 30 miles from a nuclear power plant. Never had any issues.

Tell that to the people from Chernobyl or Fukushima.

[Pamela Galli]

1 hour ago, Ayeleeon said:

We always look around and see all the bad, and we miss the fact that overall things get better as time progresses, so no I am not afraid of the future.

If you don’t count the 20th c.  

[Ayeleeon]

1 hour ago, Pamela Galli said:

If you don’t count the 20th c.  

You seriously don't believe that overall the world was a better place in 1900 than it was in 2000? Stop buying into there lies designed to make you afraid.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Ayeleeon

[Silent Mistwalker]

2 hours ago, Ceka Cianci said:

It was just an example of how we pass along information through the generations..

It's like a grape vine that gets distorted more and more each generation.

History is written by the victors. Who writes it when there has been no war? 😉

[Silent Mistwalker]

4 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Funny, I live 30 miles from a nuclear power plant. Never had any issues. I enjoy low cost energy. They are moving the power lines underground so we dont lose power in the winter due to downed lines.

Solar and wind power cost immense amounts of fossil fuels and rare earth elements to create, hardly the green energy they say it is. 

January 3, 1961

Idaho Falls, Idaho, United States

Explosion at SL-1 prototype at the National Reactor Testing Station. All 3 operators were killed when a control rod was removed too far.

 

October 5, 1966

Frenchtown Charter Township, Michigan, United States

Meltdown of some fuel elements in the Fermi 1 Reactor at the Enrico Fermi Nuclear Generating Station. Little radiation leakage into the environment.

 

March 28, 1979

Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania, United States

Loss of coolant and partial core meltdown due to operator errors and technical flaws. There is a small release of radioactive gases. See also Three Mile Island accident health effects.

 

September 15, 1984	Athens, Alabama, United States	Safety violations, operator error and design problems force a six-year outage at Browns Ferry Unit 2.	0	110
March 9, 1985	Athens, Alabama, United States	Instrumentation systems malfunction during startup, which led to suspension of operations at all three Browns Ferry Units

 

April 11, 1986

Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States

Recurring equipment problems force emergency shutdown of Boston Edison's Pilgrim Nuclear Power Plant

 

December 9, 1986	Surry, Virginia, United States	Feedwater pipe break at Surry Nuclear Power Plant kills 4 workers	4
March 31, 1987	Delta, Pennsylvania, United States	Peach Bottom units 2 and 3 shutdown due to cooling malfunctions and unexplained equipment problems	0	400
December 19, 1987	Lycoming, New York, United States	Malfunctions force Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation to shut down Nine Mile Point Unit 1	0	150
March 17, 1989	Lusby, Maryland, United States	Inspections at Calvert Cliff Units 1 and 2 reveal cracks at pressurized heater sleeves, forcing extended shutdowns

 

February 20, 1996	Waterford, Connecticut, United States	Leaking valve forces shutdown Millstone Nuclear Power Plant Units 1 and 2, multiple equipment failures found	0	254
September 2, 1996	Crystal River, Florida, United States	Balance-of-plant equipment malfunction forces shutdown and extensive repairs at Crystal River Unit 3

 

February 16, 2002

Oak Harbor, Ohio, United States

Severe corrosion of reactor vessel head forces 24-month outage of Davis-Besse reactor

 

We're overdue for the next one. It's going to be a doozy. I'm sorry you live so close to a disaster in the making.

 

Sorry, forgot link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents#Nuclear_plant_accidents

Edited January 18, 2022 by Silent Mistwalker

[Ceka Cianci]

35 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

History is written by the victors. Who writes it when there has been no war? 😉

History is nothing more than whats in the past.. My last post is history..

Those people, by the time they would have gotten there could have had tons of history just on that ship to build myths from.. hehehe

[Coffee Pancake]

39 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

January 3, 1961

Idaho Falls, Idaho, United States

Explosion at SL-1 prototype at the National Reactor Testing Station. All 3 operators were killed when a control rod was removed too far.

 

October 5, 1966

Frenchtown Charter Township, Michigan, United States

Meltdown of some fuel elements in the Fermi 1 Reactor at the Enrico Fermi Nuclear Generating Station. Little radiation leakage into the environment.

 

March 28, 1979

Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania, United States

Loss of coolant and partial core meltdown due to operator errors and technical flaws. There is a small release of radioactive gases. See also Three Mile Island accident health effects.

 

September 15, 1984	Athens, Alabama, United States	Safety violations, operator error and design problems force a six-year outage at Browns Ferry Unit 2.	0	110
March 9, 1985	Athens, Alabama, United States	Instrumentation systems malfunction during startup, which led to suspension of operations at all three Browns Ferry Units

 

April 11, 1986

Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States

Recurring equipment problems force emergency shutdown of Boston Edison's Pilgrim Nuclear Power Plant

 

December 9, 1986	Surry, Virginia, United States	Feedwater pipe break at Surry Nuclear Power Plant kills 4 workers	4
March 31, 1987	Delta, Pennsylvania, United States	Peach Bottom units 2 and 3 shutdown due to cooling malfunctions and unexplained equipment problems	0	400
December 19, 1987	Lycoming, New York, United States	Malfunctions force Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation to shut down Nine Mile Point Unit 1	0	150
March 17, 1989	Lusby, Maryland, United States	Inspections at Calvert Cliff Units 1 and 2 reveal cracks at pressurized heater sleeves, forcing extended shutdowns

 

February 20, 1996	Waterford, Connecticut, United States	Leaking valve forces shutdown Millstone Nuclear Power Plant Units 1 and 2, multiple equipment failures found	0	254
September 2, 1996	Crystal River, Florida, United States	Balance-of-plant equipment malfunction forces shutdown and extensive repairs at Crystal River Unit 3

 

February 16, 2002

Oak Harbor, Ohio, United States

Severe corrosion of reactor vessel head forces 24-month outage of Davis-Besse reactor

 

We're overdue for the next one. It's going to be a doozy. I'm sorry you live so close to a disaster in the making.

 

Sorry, forgot link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents#Nuclear_plant_accidents

There is no clean energy future that doesn't have a large nuclear component, and fission will have to do till we can make fusion practical.

[Tama Suki]

14 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

There is no clean energy future that doesn't have a large nuclear component, and fission will have to do till we can make fusion practical.

In fact, the dramatic problem is this.
There is some glimmers in recycling and other clean energies but in any case to produce energy we cannot help but have polluting waste, it is an unsurpassable physical law. But it can be optimized and above all we should start changing our lifestyle.
With us it is now fashionable to scream against climate change and against large companies that consume too much, but all those who are indignant would never give up junk food or a car.
There is a crazy waste of resources in what we consume on a daily basis that could actually be saved or invested in another way.
The challenge would be to change the business model.

Edited January 18, 2022 by Tama Suki

[Silent Mistwalker]

42 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

History is nothing more than whats in the past.. My last post is history..

Those people, by the time they would have gotten there could have had tons of history just on that ship to build myths from.. hehehe

 

That's what I'm saying! 🥳