Sammy Huntsman Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: Because there is *no* adult content or action at that location? Well, the rating means that kinda content could occur there. And as everyone said before, talk to the creator to get the rating downed to an M or G. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Regenbogen Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Starberry Passion said: Why are there no good reasons for an adult rating? Are you imply that adults shouldn't have their own space? Keep the public out of your region, but don't abuse a maturity rating as access rule. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Passion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Sammy Huntsman said: Well, the rating means that kinda content could occur there. And as everyone said before, talk to the creator to get the rating downed to an M or G. Exactly. There are several BDSM sims, r**e sims, Strip clubs, nude sims, AFK s*x sims, there are Gorean sims, ect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: I'd strongly suggest you start looking at that little letter at the top of the screen. As most of us do. I do this and I'm on an adult avatar. There are a few moderate places I go that do have rules about how one dresses. If I plan to go there, I'll put a bra on if I think I might have a little nips showing. No skirts above crotch line (not that I wear those much) but I'll abide by whatever rules they have. If I can't go.to a general region because my skirt must be knee length, I'll do that. I was recently at a temple in SL. I had on foot jewelry. I was unaware, since they didn't have rules posted or a notecard, that foot coverings of any kind in the temple area were not allowed. A gentleman informed me, asking me to remove.the jewelry which I did. Not a hardship with any of those things. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: Keep the public out of your region, but don't abuse a maturity rating as access rule. Perhaps.....they don't want you there as a child avatar. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: Because there is *no* adult content or action at that location? Don´t tell me you checked the content on like 15000 adult rated sims. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Daniel Regenbogen said: Keep the public out of your region, but don't abuse a maturity rating as access rule. Well, it is entirely up to the owner of the region, how they want to rate it. And how are they abusing it? Now you are just being delulu here. You make no sense. The rating system is to ensure that the right kinda of content, stays on the appropriately rated sims. Will you stop playing the victim here? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Passion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: Keep the public out of your region, but don't abuse a maturity rating as access rule. The Maturity rating is there to be utilized to keep people, that shouldn't be there, out of those designated sims. That's what they're for to keep them out so they cannot come in. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: Because there is *no* adult content or action at that location? Not every Adult region is a 24/7 strip club or bawdy house. But in such places sex can happen literally anywhere, at any time (within whatever limitations have been set by the region or parcel owner, but even then they need to be there to enforce them). Congrats on having never tripped over sex in an A rated region, I guess? But your luck is going to run out, because sex most assuredly does happen in such places, often quite publicly, and if you suddenly appear there with a child avatar, you're running a VERY real risk of getting ARed for it. What people often don't get about ratings is that they are not "punishments." They are a tool so that we, as residents, can make informed decisions about where we want to go, and what we want to see or experience. Not using them to make intelligent decisions is just foolish. And you're going to get burned. Edited May 4 by Scylla Rhiadra Typo 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: As I learned in SL that in most cases there is *no* good reason for an adult rating. I suspect that many who set their region 'A' simply don't like rules/restrictions, and when you've set your region to 'M' you've basically accepted a restriction given by LL for such regions (sex only behind closed doors, parcel set to invisible, blah blah blah). So it's the feeling one gets by being more free that often determines the preference of owning an 'A' sim. Edited May 4 by Luna Bliss 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, Luna Bliss said: I suspect that many who set their region 'A' simply don't like rules/restrictions, and when you've set your region to 'M' you've basically accepted a restriction given by LL for such regions (sex only behind closed doors, parcel set to invisible, blah blah blah'. So it's the feeling one gets by being more free that often determines the preference of owning an 'A' sime. This is one thing I would definitely agree with you on ♥ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliett Beaumont Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Lol! "The Undie Patrol Group" First of all, It's Linden's game, so Linden's law - If the owners decide any avatar must be a blue cubic - it may be so. Deal with it. In my opinion (...anything that follows is just my OPINION!) : I am sure, this is not to save children from nudity, pornography or abuse. Nudity in SL is quite common. If any avatar joins into any mesh body crowded area, anybody is naked until all the high detailed stuff is rezzed - after minutes. This is not limited to adult regions. So if you like a clean, shiny, non nudity Second Life, then blame mesh for all that frequent nudity. Currently there is no technical way to cover any thrilling peace of the human body - in world-wide manner. (anyway this may end in default Burka for female, shirt, pants and Flip-Flops for male avatars) I am pretty sure, almost any child avatars, who join into sexual orientated areas and also act as sexual objects in adult regions were driven by very adult players who try to justify their sexual orientation. This does not happen by accident. For me, this is just sick. To hunt, blame, kick, ban those people will just cover the problem, but will not clean up SL of those people. Most of them simply will re-spawn as an alt-ava. So, if something feels sick, you must face to it, not cover it by pushing it aside. As in RL. It is always a better idea to face those peeps directly in their virtual eyes. Better talk and tell them about NOT to justify their sick role-play. In my opinion it is a bit naive to think this new policy will make any world a better world. But it is a statement. Anyway, i am also worried this may lead into complications even for all the peeps, who were not sexual orientated to kids. On the other hand, people who are sexual orientated to kids pretty well know on what side they are on. They mostly ignore any policies already. I do not remember a thread rising up this fast since the first threads as G/M/A differentiation and Zindra appears. Edited May 4 by Dyna Mole Mild redact by moderator 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Regenbogen Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: Then bring that up with the region owners who deemed the land ADULT. If there is no good reason then they should be ok with changing it. However, LL has said no Child avatars on A Rated land. That's is highly unlikely to change no matter how much you disagree with it. This isn't like signing a petition and a rule gets overturned. LL makes the rules and even if ALL of us agree, I guarantee you the rule would still be in place. The thing is: I'm totally for pushing out sexual *****, to get rid of pedos. But what is done here are symbolic changes without doing anything to actually fight these things. It's like ... putting fresh paint on the outside walls of a rotten building and telling the world "Look what a great house we have!". Anyways, I'm off to bed, good night/day/whatever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Luna Bliss said: I suspect that many who set their region 'A' simply don't like rules/restrictions, and when you've set your region to 'M' you've basically accepted a restriction given by LL for such regions (sex only behind closed doors, parcel set to invisible, blah blah blah'0. So it's the feeling one gets by being more free that often determines the preference of owning an 'A' sim. Exactly. If I could set my Linden home as Adult I would....not that any sex actually happens in or outdoors but maybe...one day. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraya Starr Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 The cattiness in this thread has reached a new high ( And I really did not want to say cattiness) You get the drift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: not that any sex actually happens in or outdoors but maybe...one day. Hope springs eternal! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, Starberry Passion said: The Maturity rating is there to be utilized to keep people, that shouldn't be there, out of those designated sims. That's what they're for to keep them out so they cannot come in. As well as for those that don't wish to come across certain content.. It helps to clean up peoples searches , which is the main driver for the ratings.. it's more about advertisement to the public than anything.. this is why in reality activities that go in in a bedroom are not really adult content unless they are advertised, like leaving the curtains open so the neighbors can watch.. that's adult rated. .. but that is more a real world version than an SL version.. hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: The thing is: I'm totally for pushing out sexual *****, to get rid of pedos. But what is done here are symbolic changes without doing anything to actually fight these things. It's like ... putting fresh paint on the outside walls of a rotten building and telling the world "Look what a great house we have!". Anyways, I'm off to bed, good night/day/whatever. How would you exactly "get rid of pedos" which I hate that term cause it's incorrect without having rules? It's not like they are going to all gather 'round and raise their hand and say "here I am"! But at least they won't be hiding in A rated sims any longer and for that us "adults" can rest easier. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Passion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 3 minutes ago, Saraya Starr said: The cattiness in this thread has reached a new high ( And I really did not want to say cattiness) You get the drift. I have been told that I am rather catlike in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I suspect that many who set their region 'A' simply don't like rules/restrictions, and when you've set your region to 'M' you've basically accepted a restriction given by LL for such regions (sex only behind closed doors, parcel set to invisible, blah blah blah'0. So it's the feeling one gets by being more free that often determines the preference of owning an 'A' sim. However, according to grid survey there is a constant trend, A rated sims increase, M rated sims decrease, G rated stay more or less stable (due to the fact that they are almost exclusively residing on mainland). Why? Who knows? And who cares? Fact is that people set sims to A and these are mature enough to decide on that. Edited May 4 by Vivienne Schell 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriannaLovey Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 27 minutes ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: And my critical mind would like to hear a real reason for that. I prefer to question rules that in my eyes make no sense at all. Just let them do their thing. The only thing holding up SL at this point is the network effect. At some point, platform en*****tification (yes, real term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En*****tification) becomes so bad that it will nullify any advantages that the network effect supports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberry Passion Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Ceka Cianci said: As well as for those that don't wish to come across certain content.. It helps to clean up peoples searches , which is the main driver for the ratings.. it's more about advertisement to the public than anything.. this is why in reality activities that go in in a bedroom are not really adult content unless they are advertised, like leaving the curtains open so the neighbors can watch.. that's adult rated. .. but that is more a real world version than an SL version.. hehehe Yeah, that's what Ratings, irl help with as well. Games, for example. E means Everyone, everyone can play. T means Teens and up, M is for audiences 16+ and A is Adult. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: How would you exactly "get rid of pedos" which I hate that term cause it's incorrect without having rules? It's not like they are going to all gather 'round and raise their hand and say "here I am"! But at least they won't be hiding in A rated sims any longer and for that us "adults" can rest easier. Plus, I won't have to keep screaming "GET OFF MY LAWN" to the neighbors kids. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Regenbogen Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: How would you exactly "get rid of pedos" which I hate that term cause it's incorrect without having rules? It's not like they are going to all gather 'round and raise their hand and say "here I am"! But at least they won't be hiding in A rated sims any longer and for that us "adults" can rest easier. Caught that when I started to turn off the computer. Do you *really* think that these people were hiding in adult rated regions with public access? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 23 minutes ago, Daniel Regenbogen said: In the whole of Germany there is exactly *one* street where kids are not allowed, for good reason. There are lots of buildings where kids are not allowed, also for good reason. But that doesn't mean that they are not allowed in the street infront of them or in the neighboring building were no such good reasons are to be found. You chose to be in Second Life. Second Life has a ToS with rules. Like it or not. It is take it or leave it. That is where it all boils down to. No need for 50 more pages of discussion. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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