Introducing Senra Avatars... what do you think?

[Rowan Amore]

9 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Corrected.
I assumed everybody knows that haha

Or you know, you could have just posted a SFW picture like everyone else.

[Caroline Takeda]

17 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Or you know, you could have just posted a SFW picture like everyone else.

It is about the text, not the picture. I don't duplicate my writings elsewhere.
It is a very common practice to link instead of copy/paste.

But it doesn't matter what I do; you would find a reason to criticize me anyway.
It is ok that you don't like me, or what I do, or that I am actually making money. I am fine with that.

 

[Rowan Amore]

7 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

It is about the text, not the picture. I don't duplicate my writings elsewhere.
It is a very common practice to link instead of copy/paste.

But it doesn't matter what I do; you would find a reason to criticize me anyway.
It is ok that you don't like me, or what I do, or that I am actually making money. I am fine with that.

 

I couldn't care less what you post on your blog.  Linking your blog post (aside from in your signature line) is not allowed.  It's advertising as you well know since you stated so yourself...

40 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

We call that a media business.
 

 

[Persephone Emerald]

40 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

It is about the text, not the picture. I don't duplicate my writings elsewhere.
It is a very common practice to link instead of copy/paste.

But it doesn't matter what I do; you would find a reason to criticize me anyway.
It is ok that you don't like me, or what I do, or that I am actually making money. I am fine with that.
 

I don't dislike you. I don't mind that you blog about sex in SL. You frequently promote your business on the forums though, and when doing so you need to be clear that you are advertising a NSFW blog and pay for play activities.

[Alwin Alcott]

1 hour ago, Caroline Takeda said:

It is about the text, not the picture

No Nudity or Adult Content: All content posted on the Second Life Forums must be rated “General” per our Maturity Ratings. Keep in mind, this does not include content posted specifically in the “Adult Content Forum” section.

Linden Lab Official:Forum Participation Guidelines - Second Life Wiki

[Caroline Takeda]

16 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

I couldn't care less what you post on your blog.  Linking your blog post (aside from in your signature line) is not allowed.  It's advertising as you well know since you stated so yourself...

 

I linked to content, not to an advert, and not to an advertorial, not to a pay-to-play promotion. The blog also features adverts which is the nature of a professional blog, magazine, or any other professional online media (you can block those, btw).

I am unaware that linking to external content is not allowed. It is common practice. There are hundreds of links in forum posts to external content. The content I linked is NOT sexual nor off-topic (Senra Avatars). To get to the adult stuff, you need to navigate within the blog.

Yes, you are right; an NSFW warning would have been appropriate anyway, even though when you click the link, you get to an age verification page AND an explicit adult content warning first. 

I did edit the post anyway and added an NSFW warning.

Can we get back to the topic now?
Feel free to open a new thread if you feel like assembling yet another Caroline-Takeda-Bashing.

 

[Caroline Takeda]

19 hours ago, AmeliaJ08 said:

Well I have been hanging out around the Firestorm welcome island place for a couple of days now people watching and I've yet to see a Jamie show up! weird. I have seen lots of Blakes though.

It takes a while for noobs to discover the firestorm welcome island.
They typically get dropped at orientation island first.

[AmeliaJ08]

3 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

It takes a while for noobs to discover the firestorm welcome island.
They typically get dropped at orientation island first.

I think it was this thread (it might have been another recently) where it was discovered where you are dumped as a noob depends on the client you are using. People were creating alts to play with Senra and discovered they were being sent to the Firestorm island on first log in.

Interestingly people even discovered being sent to the Firestorm island if they were using the Second Life viewer in some cases, the theory was that the new account they had made was hardware ID linked to their original account (alt detection) and had some sort of Firestorm flag.

Which reminds me, I was going to test it. I don't think I've ever logged in using the official SL viewer so was going to see where an alt of mine would be sent.

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by AmeliaJ08

[Qie Niangao]

4 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

I linked to content, not to an advert, and not to an advertorial, not to a pay-to-play promotion. The blog also features adverts which is the nature of a professional blog, magazine, or any other professional online media (you can block those, btw).

I am unaware that linking to external content is not allowed. It is common practice. There are hundreds of links in forum posts to external content. […]

Probably before we get back to the topic, you may want to become familiar with the Forum Guidelines that include this rule:

Quote

Do not reference other websites offering any product or service.

So it's perfectly fine to link to external sites. I do it all the time (especially to Inara Pey's superb Modemworld blog, plug plug plug). The difference is, that site contains no offering of any product nor service. So it's not about what content is at the specific link, it's what the whole site contains. Yours would be off limits unless you dropped the advertising.

(This apparently doesn't restrict ads inserted by blog hosting software, which has somehow decided I really need to buy a fancy oscilloscope that's now following me all over the interwebs.)

[pizza7]

2 hours ago, Qie Niangao said:

Probably before we get back to the topic, you may want to become familiar with the Forum Guidelines that include this rule:

So it's perfectly fine to link to external sites. I do it all the time (especially to Inara Pey's superb Modemworld blog, plug plug plug). The difference is, that site contains no offering of any product nor service. So it's not about what content is at the specific link, it's what the whole site contains. Yours would be off limits unless you dropped the advertising.

(This apparently doesn't restrict ads inserted by blog hosting software, which has somehow decided I really need to buy a fancy oscilloscope that's now following me all over the interwebs.)

you have no idea how incredible handy an oscilloscope can be..hahaha

[Silent Mistwalker]

7 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

To get to the adult stuff, you need to navigate within the blog.

All I had to do was scroll down on the page a bit to see it, it was there as part of the article you wrote. Adult nudity is adult content. NSFW or children.

[Caroline Takeda]

21 hours ago, Qie Niangao said:

Probably before we get back to the topic, you may want to become familiar with the Forum Guidelines that include this rule:

So it's perfectly fine to link to external sites. I do it all the time (especially to Inara Pey's superb Modemworld blog, plug plug plug). The difference is, that site contains no offering of any product nor service. So it's not about what content is at the specific link, it's what the whole site contains. Yours would be off limits unless you dropped the advertising.

(This apparently doesn't restrict ads inserted by blog hosting software, which has somehow decided I really need to buy a fancy oscilloscope that's now following me all over the interwebs.)

That would mean you could not link to any online newspaper article, as they ALL sell ads.
A bit silly.

There is a big difference between a website offering products or services and a website selling ads for other people's products or services (such as affiliate ads). 

Free blog hosting is a good example (thanks for that one). Ads are part of their business model as well. It's not an "ad injection." That wording implies that the blogger is not consenting to the ads.

No. It's a deal between the blogger and the hoster: The blogger gets free hosting, and the hosting company has the right (with the blogger's consent)  to monetize that space with PPC ads unless or until the blogger upgrades to a paid hosting plan. The blogger benefits from the ads by getting a free hosting plan.

Btw: Strawberry Singh's blog sold advertising. Often linked here in the forums. PPC Ads monetizes Uriah Nalates's blog (those are not hosting ads) - often linked in the forums. The same applies to Seraphim, Juicy Bomb, the Alphaville Herald, and others.

Some of those do offer a section for adult content as well, even without a warning.




 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Caroline Takeda

[Caroline Takeda]

21 hours ago, AmeliaJ08 said:

I think it was this thread (it might have been another recently) where it was discovered where you are dumped as a noob depends on the client you are using.

I was using Firestorm and was dropped at the new orientation island.

[Caroline Takeda]

18 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

All I had to do was scroll down on the page a bit to see it, it was there as part of the article you wrote. Adult nudity is adult content. NSFW or children.

All right,

so the adult content warning page didn't load.
I have to check that plugin again.

Sorry for that.

[Phil Deakins]

I just went to the disputed page, and I didn't find any fault with it. I saw no ads on it but, even if there were some affiliate ads, I still wouldn't have found any fault with it. It's not easy finding a page on the web that doesn't contain some affiliate ads. It's actually expected these days.

If the linked-to page contained largish ads for goods and services, i.e. if it's basically an advertisement for stuff, with some text etc. slotted in, then it would be against the rules to link to it. But most pages on the web aren't promotional pages, even if they contain some affiliate ads. Imo, such non-promotional pages are not against what the quoted rule disallows. But that's just my opinion.

[Marianne Little]

Blake really need some new skin, so he does not look so childish.

I found only one decent skin in my inventory, Theskinshop "Aston" from 2015. The hint of stubble is on the skin, not added. Eyes is out of production, but they have been my alts eyes "forever". Clef De Peau brows, Argrace hairbase, Doux hair. I could have an alt looking like this, but where to get the skin? The store is closed.

But notice that the eyebrows appear to be stretched when Blake blinks. It is not a good look.

 

It is impossible for newbies to navigate through all the skins before mesh heads came and took over the market. Classic skins could be given a quick fix and uploaded to the Marketplace under the Senra name.

The second skin I found was from Sweet's. Basic male skin Classic tone 2. It is only 1 L and it is... not what I prefer, but stilI better than the Senra skins. Sweet's skin is more "rugged" and has more "life". And this skin is still for sale, and a dollarbie. Sweet's has better eyes than the included ones too. I prefer light grey eyes.

 

Edited August 13, 2023 by Marianne Little
added a few words

[Silent Mistwalker]

5 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

All right,

so the adult content warning page didn't load.
I have to check that plugin again.

Sorry for that.

Thank you for not taking that as me being aggressive towards you. That happens far too often when I'm only trying to help people.

[Caroline Takeda]

22 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

Thank you for not taking that as me being aggressive towards you. That happens far too often when I'm only trying to help people.

To confirm:

So the adult content warning page did NOT appear in your case, right?
Were you taken directly to the actual content? This usually only happens if you have visited the site earlier (90 days cookie).

Edited August 13, 2023 by Caroline Takeda

[Caroline Takeda]

4 hours ago, Phil Deakins said:

I saw no ads on it but, even if there were some affiliate ads, I still wouldn't have found any fault with it. It's not easy finding a page on the web that doesn't contain some affiliate ads. It's actually expected these days.

Hey Phil,

Long time no see, Mr. Ex-SEO 🙂. I hope you are doing well.

There are affiliate banners on the site. You see those once you pass the adult content warning page. They are not aggressive or intrusive in dedicated ad spaces, clearly identifiable as "sponsored content" and in the code marked as such (rel="sponsored").

However, the actual content dominates the pages and posts, and it is not what we call an affiliate farm.
Writing all that content was a lot of work (and a lot of fun).

But you know, whenever pages like that are associated with the name Caroline Takeda, somebody feels a need for drama. It typically starts with Rowen, my stalker and ethics teacher (self-proclaimed, not called for).

Edited August 13, 2023 by Caroline Takeda

[Phil Deakins]

15 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Long time no see, Mr. Ex-SEO 🙂. I hope you are doing well.

I am, thank you   You have an amazing memory lol.

I'm not aware of people dramatising your posts, and I have no idea why, but if that page had the normal affiliate ads - not the huge things that are a real pain - I would see nothing wrong with it.

[Silent Mistwalker]

38 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

To confirm:

So the adult content warning page did NOT appear in your case, right?
Were you taken directly to the actual content? This usually only happens if you have visited the site earlier (90 days cookie).

This is correct and no I have never visited your site before yesterday. It's possible it was just a glitch. 

[Caroline Takeda]

24 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

This is correct and no I have never visited your site before yesterday. It's possible it was just a glitch. 

Thanks, I will do some testing. This is what is supposed to come up:

Edited August 13, 2023 by Caroline Takeda

[Phil Deakins]

That's what I saw when I went over earlier.

[Silent Mistwalker]

7 minutes ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Thanks, I will do some testing. This is what is supposed to ***** up:

Thanks. Never saw it. We do have some strange things happen with our FiOS now and again because rural more or less so it may not be anything on your end. I say that so if you don't find anything you won't be freaking out.

[Leymott]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask (didn't really think it deserves a new thread), but has anyone gotten the dev kits for the Senra Avatars yet?

Really looking forward to developing stuff for them!

I've read the agreement for the SDK, but I don't quite understand if we'd be allowed to edit the models and put them on the store.  For instance, let's say I wanted to make an elf version of the heads—Does anyone know if we'd be able to take the base model in the SDK, edit that to have the ear shape we want, adjust the facial features to look more 'elven', and then put it on the store while clearly naming/crediting it as Senra?

Or would we need to make a new model from scratch that just uses the same UV and fits the neck of the Senra bodies? 🤔