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17 minutes ago, EnCore Mayne said:

i take it from the voluminous array of emotional tripe seemingly directed at a destructive element that must be tortured and murdered that my ideas need more defending than i have time for. thank you Arielle for your excelled logic interpreting and wrangling the malcontents.

one thing i will say, hopefully not characterizing anyone who finds words and ideas personally offensive, is that my intent in posting and clarifying my position was (i see now) a futile attempt at some sort of civil discourse leading to some cogent consensus of understanding.

the lesson (for me) has been quite comically/tragically demonstrated and i'm not sorry for believing the best of everyone.

---unfollowed

I like tripe! Mostly in phô, with tendons.

Tripe bad?

Thank you for creating a thread that spurred so much discussion. I'm sorry it wasn't locked following your update posts. I for one, will keep remembering what you said, and not all the arguments that have been attributed to you! 

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5 hours ago, Anna Nova said:

Wow!  I blinked and there were 15 pages of comments on this tripe!  I promise I didn't read any of them.

Come on people, get a life!  

Trolling a group of like minded people is so easy.
Ask Arielle.

And don't forget: Winning or loosing the Internet is at stake at all time, everywhere.

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6 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

i take it from the voluminous array of emotional tripe seemingly directed at a destructive element that must be tortured and murdered that my ideas need more defending than i have time for. thank you Arielle for your excelled logic interpreting and wrangling the malcontents.

one thing i will say, hopefully not characterizing anyone who finds words and ideas personally offensive, is that my intent in posting and clarifying my position was (i see now) a futile attempt at some sort of civil discourse leading to some cogent consensus of understanding.

the lesson (for me) has been quite comically/tragically demonstrated and i'm not sorry for believing the best of everyone.

---unfollowed

I find my enjoyment in horseback riding and getting on the lake with the boat.. I find it's much more exercise. :P

 

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6 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

interpreting and wrangling the malcontents.

malcontent:   

adjective

not satisfied or content with currently prevailing conditions or circumstances.

dissatisfied with the existing government, administration, system, etc

 

Seems to me, there were only 2 in this particular thread.

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@EnCore Mayne I'd just like to point something out...

23 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

some personally critical comments/assessments have been submitted for moderation. you know who you are.

 

23 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

and that being said, i apologize if any moronic trolls have taken any offense to my little thought project. your words count against you. and there's the rub!

 

Do you see it?

 

In case you don't, You are basically saying "i'm going to have your comments removed because i don't like them", and "i'm calling you a troll because i don't like what you have to say about what i think".

I really don't know if you actually see this but i hope you do because this is says an awful lot about who you are as a person and i say this because I care, I'm a little worried that you would say things like this publicly on the internet. It's a good thing nobody knows your real life name because that could not play out so well for you in your real life. This is not a threat at all, so don't take it that way.

 

I was among the few who said that this is possibly a troll post because it really looks like it. I mean, if you look at most, if not all responses, they all pretty much firmly disagree with your OP. I don't know exactly how many people are engaged in this thread but you just can not go and claim that they are all wrong collectively. That's just not how things work. Or that nobody understood what you actually said. If you do believe that, then that is pretty condescending towards pretty much everyone of us. Could be a bit of a narcissistic trade you got going on there. I'm not saying you are, but it does kinda look like it.

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7 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

i take it from the voluminous array of emotional tripe seemingly directed at a destructive element that must be tortured and murdered that my ideas need more defending than i have time for. thank you Arielle for your excelled logic interpreting and wrangling the malcontents.

one thing i will say, hopefully not characterizing anyone who finds words and ideas personally offensive, is that my intent in posting and clarifying my position was (i see now) a futile attempt at some sort of civil discourse leading to some cogent consensus of understanding.

the lesson (for me) has been quite comically/tragically demonstrated and i'm not sorry for believing the best of everyone.

---unfollowed

Thought projects don't really work in this forum.  Very few people are willing or capable of "entertaining an idea" for the sake of discussion. It's been that way for as long as I've been posting here.

Anyway, you spurred pages and pages of something that's not really a discussion.  At least you distracted everyone from the casino threads. 👍

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13 hours ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

Well, generally speaking, it takes money to make money. And when you have tonnes of premium accounts, such as myself investing their money to pretty up their avatars, pay land rent to a company, decorate their home. So yes it takes vast amounts of money to keep a platform like this afloat. And she was generally disagreeing with the OP, so I don't see how this is a win. 

I'm not saying you are 100% wrong or I am 100% right but when the first post to the OP comes out as "free accounts pay vast amounts of money", it begins to seem fishy and people are taking the bait.  And, again, that's VAST amounts of money.  

And, yes trolls have become scammers as shown in the Twitter post I posted.  They create a chaos and then some others throw bad links to get other's to click on them while everyone is riled up in any emotions frenzy.  Times change, don't think a troll of yesteryear is the troll of today because it simply is not true that some of these trolls are just out to upset us.  They are crafty.

Social engineering is different.  And yes, they friend you and then it's oh, look at my new kittens link or some such link to click on comes into your IM.  I'm saying don't click on those.

I think I learned something out of this.  Best to not talk about one's money or spending in SL, or keep it to a minimum at least.  

Use a throwaway account for the forums who doesn't go inworld much and check that only friends can contact you.  This sounds safer.

I'm not trusting the OP.  There is something fishy about it all.  

If the first response to the OP is free accounts pay vast amounts of money, how can the OP be so naive, and it's said in this thread she's an old timer too?  

I will shut up about it now but take precautions as this is the internet.  

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4 minutes ago, EliseAnne85 said:

I'm not saying you are 100% wrong or I am 100% right but when the first post to the OP comes out as "free accounts pay vast amounts of money", it begins to seem fishy and people are taking the bait.  And, again, that's VAST amounts of money.  

Odd, that you are the only one in this thread with these concerns. 

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Just now, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

I had to look up "thot"

I include you in the "typical hottie on TikTok" in the photo threads.  As for the rest of the word meaning, /me gives you a warning look.

Hmm! I thought it meant, "that ho' over there", in the not-literal sense of the word.

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9 hours ago, EnCore Mayne said:

i take it from the voluminous array of emotional tripe seemingly directed at a destructive element that must be tortured and murdered that my ideas need more defending than i have time for. thank you Arielle for your excelled logic interpreting and wrangling the malcontents.

one thing i will say, hopefully not characterizing anyone who finds words and ideas personally offensive, is that my intent in posting and clarifying my position was (i see now) a futile attempt at some sort of civil discourse leading to some cogent consensus of understanding.

the lesson (for me) has been quite comically/tragically demonstrated and i'm not sorry for believing the best of everyone.

---unfollowed

Um-hum.

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12 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:
1 hour ago, EliseAnne85 said:

If the first response to the OP is free accounts pay vast amounts of money, how can she be so naive?

Oh, for the love of...

Maybe what EliseAnne85 is missing is some logic:

Just because scams/phishing/social engineering exists, does not mean that all interactions are that.

Just because people admit to, and even brag about how much money they spend, does NOT mean they are dumb enough to be scammed / phished. 

Just because people brag does not mean they are dumb.

Just because people brag does not mean they are bragging in response to a scamming / phishing / social engineering attempt.

Put in terms of an analogy: Just because "elephants" exist (scams, phishing, hacking, social networking), does not mean that all "animals" (interactions on the internet) are "elephants" (scam, phishing, etc.).  

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3 hours ago, CaithLynnSayes said:

I was among the few who said that this is possibly a troll post because it really looks like it. I mean, if you look at most, if not all responses, they all pretty much firmly disagree with your OP. I don't know exactly how many people are engaged in this thread but you just can not go and claim that they are all wrong collectively. That's just not how things work. Or that nobody understood what you actually said. If you do believe that, then that is pretty condescending towards pretty much everyone of us. Could be a bit of a narcissistic trade you got going on there. I'm not saying you are, but it does kinda look like it.

Actually one can as the crowd is usually wrong. Plenty of articles out there proving how susceptible the majority are to group think.

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34 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Oh, for the love of...

 

Okay, I want to make something clear and actually asked this question several times.

What I want to make clear is how can the OP be that naive, meaning that free accounts aren't really free.  There are some sure but most not.  I mean in her OP she wants to separate the free accounts away from others and her title says "No More FREE Lunch" which implies to me she really thinks free accounts are free and pay nothing.

And, it's been said in this thread she is an old timer.

So, tell me...how can she be that naive that free accounts don't actually spend a lot of money here?  And, she goes on to even saying free accounts need to be separated from paid accounts because they are free-loaders (as she called free accounts in her OP).  

How can the OP be that naive (that free accounts are really free-loaders?)  And, she's an old timer too.

And, I even said how can the OP make that assumption when there are free accounts walking around SL all decked out in expensive mesh avatars?

Her premise makes no sense unless she just landed here.

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