Casino in Second Life? is Gambling Back?

[Kimmi Zehetbauer]

1 hour ago, Quartz Mole said:

Fascinating though this discussion of firearms in space certainly is (and I'm now wondering about the implications of recoil in zero or low gravity) I'm not sure how on topic it is.

Some ancient RL slot machines had a recoil affect due to the strong springs to pull the lever back.  Not sure the slots in the SC (Social Casino) can be scripted that way!

[Rowan Amore]

7 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said:

Some ancient RL slot machines had a recoil affect due to the strong springs to pull the lever back.  Not sure the slots in the SC (Social Casino) can be scripted that way!

The other arm is invisible. It's the one reaching into your pocket to steal your wallet.  😁

[Kimmi Zehetbauer]

20 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

The other arm is invisible. It's the one reaching into your pocket to steal your wallet.  😁

My man had a thought of having a SC slot's lever scripted to toss avatars across the room and people placing bets how far they go! 🤣  "Welcome to the SC --- Watch out for flying avatars that were fling-ed by slots!"

Edited May 18, 2023 by Kimmi Zehetbauer
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[Silent Mistwalker]

9 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said:

My man had a thought of having a SC slot's lever scripted to toss avatars across the room and people placing bets how far they go! 🤣  "Welcome to the SC --- Watch out for flying avatars that were fling-ed by slots!"

It would have been almost as big a hit as the toilet chairs. When your letter came up and you sat down, BAWHOOSH! up in the air you go on a fountain of water about 6 feet high.

Those were fun.

[Love Zhaoying]

I thought of two "Real Life" Casino "use-cases" in the US which are unusual, so I wonder if either of those would make sense to replicate in Second Life:

1) On "Riverboat" Casinos, customers are "stuck" in the Casino environment - or on the Riverboat at least, and perhaps they can find "other things to do - while the "Riverboat" is sailing.  Of course, during these "locked in" periods, new customers cannot "come in", either.  Besides a "captive audience", this has the effect of limiting the total number of people who can "enter", as nobody can join "mid-Riverboat cruise".

Oddly, "Real Life"  scenarios exist for "Riverboat" gambling where the "boat" never actually leaves "dock" - but customers are still required to stay on the "Boat" a certain amount of time. I experienced this in Mississippi (if memory is correct).

A different but comparable non-Casino Real Life scenario is with Disney's new "Galactic Starcruiser" hotels;  the customers are "stuck" in the hotel for a certain amount of time to simulate and maintain the illusion of "being in space".

In Second Life:  By making customers "stay at the Casino", it can help create and preserve some illusion that for example "we can't go outside now because XXXX" (the world is being rebuilt, we are "at sea", etc.). 

While customers could log out from Second Life, in this scenario once they enter the Casino they cannot do anything else in Second Life for that "shift" (time period).  Of course, having a "time period / shift" like this means users would need to "stay and play" at the Casino games unless they log out from Second Life.  This scenario has the side benefit that LL would have a "captive audience" - they can hang out at the Casino, or relog.  More L$ for LL! But really, my point is that this scenario would replicate the "Real Life" scenario on some gambling Casinos.

2) On "Cruise Ships", the Casino is only open when the Ship has entered some specific waters (whether "International" waters, or a specific distance from shore).  Until then, the Casino area is not only "closed", but completely "closed off".  (This can also apply to certain "Duty-Free" sales areas.  I experienced this on a cruise from the US to Cuba.

In Second Life: The advantages of having a "limited opening times" for a Casino could be many.  Here are two examples:

a) An environment could be crafted to take advantage of magic only possible in Second Life; For example, "the Casino isn't open until we XXXXX". This could be something like "travel" to another planet / galaxy / plane of existance, shift to another Second Life Experience, transform the landscape, Time Travel, etc.

b) By having "limited opening times", you create an "enforced break" from gambling, where users simply do not have access to the Casino.  This gives everyone a time to "do something else" in Second Life; or at least, "not gamble".

 

[Jaylinbridges]

The SL Social Casino isn't exactly setting attendance records since it opened.  Traffic today was about 3065.  By comparison, the Linden Realm Portals were about 7500 and 9300 (two identical Portal regions) or 16,800 total.  You can earn Lindens in those games.  Fogbound Blues traffic was 90,000.  All measured within a 5 min window.

Maybe they need some DJ's at the casino?  

Edited May 24, 2023 by Jaylinbridges

[Gwin LeShelle]

8 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

The SL Social Casino isn't exactly setting attendance records since it opened.  Traffic today was about 3065.  By comparison, the Linden Realm Portals were about 7500 and 9300 (two identical Portal estates) or 16,800 total.  You can earn Lindens it those games.  Fogbound Blues traffic was 90,000.  All measured within a 5 min window.

Maybe they need some DJ's at the casino?  

Nothing like a DJ yelling his fancy "WHOOOOO" gesture while you just lost 800 tokens in one go XD 

My introvert princess bum would despise DJs there even more than the thing itself I'm afraid haha but that's a very personal thing, but music is really missing there.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

38 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

The SL Social Casino isn't exactly setting attendance records since it opened.  Traffic today was about 3065.  By comparison, the Linden Realm Portals were about 7500 and 9300 (two identical Portal estates) or 16,800 total.  You can earn Lindens in those games.  Fogbound Blues traffic was 90,000.  All measured within a 5 min window.

Maybe they need some DJ's at the casino?  

You're right, I think, that it's not exactly been a hot spot. A friend was there this afternoon, and it was all but empty.

The more I think about it, the odder it seems that the casino seems not to have even been designed for crowds. It can hold, what, 30 or 40 players, max, at a time? It's not really built to be crowded.

[Jaylinbridges]

59 minutes ago, Gwin LeShelle said:

but music is really missing there.

Yeah at least some playlists from Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darwin, Wayne Newton, and Liberace, for the SL Boomer crowd.  Garth Brooks, Keith Urban, and Barry Manilow for the middle aged Millennials.  

Clubs like Fogbound don't encourage gestures from the DJ or hostess.  Or much chatter either.  But only 1/2 the crowd has the DJ stream on, so perhaps the draw is meeting people, for at least one night...

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Jaylinbridges
I moved Wayne Newton into the Boomer crowd where he belongs.

[Gwin LeShelle]

3 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

You're right, I think, that it's not exactly been a hot spot. A friend was there this afternoon, and it was all but empty.

The more I think about it, the odder it seems that the casino seems not to have even been designed for crowds. It can hold, what, 30 or 40 players, max, at a time? It's not really built to be crowded.

I think it's one of those copyable mole builds that get cloned when demand gets higher.

Also with the 64bit thing and other things now it starts to feel like they start to polish the 💩 aka pimping SL to make it look all shiny and better than ever for their 20th birthday, because maybe they plan to make the news 😂 like "ha we still there". And you can't have an old bot infested grid, with only humping sims (the depiction of SL often I have the feeling) to be all in metas face. 

I am bracing myself for more "new" and "better" things to come tho.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

10 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

Yeah at least some playlists from Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darwin, and Liberace, for the SL Boomer crowd.  Wayne Newton, Garth Brooks, Keith Urban, and Barry Manilow for the middle aged Millennials.

As if I needed more incentive to stay away.

Wayne Newton? Seriously????

[Jaylinbridges]

2 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

As if I needed more incentive to stay away.

Wayne Newton? Seriously????

HaHa - You must lack the musical sophistication that ol' Wayne supplies.  He is known as Mr Las Vegas.

Carson Wayne Newton is an American singer and actor. One of the most popular singers in the nation from the mid-to-late 20th-century, Newton remains one of the best-known entertainers in Las Vegas and has performed there since 1963. He is known by the nicknames The Midnight Idol, Mr. Las Vegas and Mr. Entertainment. Wayne Newton Upcoming Concerts: (51) from May 24, 2023 - Dec 30, 2023 location Bugsy's Cabaret at Flamingo Hotel.

Disclaimer - I own no Wayne Newton recordings, and have never played his songs in SL.  The tip would need to be pretty damn high to do that.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

13 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

HaHa - You must lack the musical sophistication that ol' Wayne supplies.  He is known as Mr Las Vegas.

Carson Wayne Newton is an American singer and actor. One of the most popular singers in the nation from the mid-to-late 20th-century, Newton remains one of the best-known entertainers in Las Vegas and has performed there since 1963. He is known by the nicknames The Midnight Idol, Mr. Las Vegas and Mr. Entertainment. Wayne Newton Upcoming Concerts: (51) from May 24, 2023 - Dec 30, 2023 location Bugsy's Cabaret at Flamingo Hotel.

Disclaimer - I own no Wayne Newton recordings, and have never played his songs in SL.  The tip would need to be pretty damn high to do that.

I'd have thought he was more a draw for Boomers than anyone else. And do Millennials really listen to . . . Barry Manilow?

Speaking as a solid in-the-middle-of-the-pack GenXer, he feels pretty ancient even to me.

Mind you, ABBA is having a resurgence.

OH! And you forgot the Canadian content! Celine Dion!

[Love Zhaoying]

25 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

As if I needed more incentive to stay away.

Wayne Newton? Seriously????

Barry Manilow would be more appropriate. <= is joke!

Idea for Casino playlist: "You Better, You Bet" by The Who. Hey! We could start a Casino Playlist thread!

So..the Social Casino has NO music stream playing?

[Persephone Emerald]

1 hour ago, Jaylinbridges said:

The SL Social Casino isn't exactly setting attendance records since it opened.  Traffic today was about 3065.  By comparison, the Linden Realm Portals were about 7500 and 9300 (two identical Portal regions) or 16,800 total.  You can earn Lindens in those games.  Fogbound Blues traffic was 90,000.  All measured within a 5 min window.

Maybe they need some DJ's at the casino?  

I've been occasionally observing the number of green dots in the casino from the map. For the first week I was popping in nearly every day too. It seems like it was a novelty at first. It wasn't unusual in the first week to see more than 6 avatars there at a time, sometimes couples, sometimes groups of people with the same last name or the same group tag. Of course there were also the protestors and those others of us from the forum who were curious or wanted to take pictures.

When I was there, usually as Tasha, a couple people asked me how to redeem the credits. I told them they can't, that the credits are worthless except for playing the casino games. I enjoyed learning how to play Blackjack better, until it seemed like the dealer was winning more than they should statistically and it was getting harder for me to build up my credit balance. 

Lately I haven't seen more than 4 green dots there on the map, and often it's completely empty. I think the novelty has worn off.

There is no music. Linden regions seldom have music enabled unless it's for a DJ.

[Scylla Rhiadra]

2 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

I've been occasionally observing the number of green dots in the casino from the map. For the first week I was popping in nearly every day too. It seems like it was a novelty at first. It wasn't unusual in the first week to see more than 6 avatars there at a time, sometimes couples, sometimes groups of people with the same last name or the same group tag. Of course there were also the protestors and those others of us from the forum who were curious or wanted to take pictures.

When I was there, usually as Tasha, a couple people asked me how to redeem the credits. I told them they can't, that the credits are worthless except for playing the casino games. I enjoyed learning how to play Blackjack better, until it seemed like the dealer was winning more than they should statistically and it was getting harder for me to build up my credit balance. 

Lately I haven't seen more than 4 green dots there on the map, and often it's completely empty. I think the novelty has worn off.

There is no music. Linden regions seldom have music enabled unless it's for a DJ.

Well, it comes back to what we were saying earlier in this thread, and in the other.

It just doesn't feel like a very fun experience? It looks just ok, but not very interesting, there's no entertainment other than the games, it's not really suitable for RP . . .

It seems to have been designed for hardcore gamblers who don't pay much attention to anything that isn't a slot machine or a set of cards. I can imagine an evening having fun playing cards with friends in SL. I can't imagine sitting at a casino table for more than 20 mins or so without getting bored out of my gourd. There's really no "social" in this social casino.

[Love Zhaoying]

51 minutes ago, Gwin LeShelle said:

I think it's one of those copyable mole builds that get cloned when demand gets higher.

I thought that "instancing" behavior was only possible with Sansar..?

[Gwin LeShelle]

stood myself there to see if people would be there no one is there but one TP in for short XD

[Persephone Emerald]

Just now, Gwin LeShelle said:

stood myself there to see if people would be there no one is there but one TP in for short XD

People probably TP in just long enough to get the 120 daily credits. That's what I did when playing Blackjack and watching other avatars was no longer fun.

[Gwin LeShelle]

1 minute ago, Persephone Emerald said:

People probably TP in just long enough to get the 120 daily credits. That's what I did when playing Blackjack and watching other avatars was no longer fun.

Yes I think so too...Can't even properly people watch there T^T 

[Gwin LeShelle]

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because off topic and pointless sorry x3

Edited May 24, 2023 by Gwin LeShelle

[Love Zhaoying]

45 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

I'd have thought he was more a draw for Boomers than anyone else. And do Millennials really listen to . . . Barry Manilow?

Speaking as a solid in-the-middle-of-the-pack GenXer, he feels pretty ancient even to me.

Mind you, ABBA is having a resurgence.

OH! And you forgot the Canadian content! Celine Dion!

Apologies for the over-explaining but some people may find this interesting who do not already know (on-topic at the end):

I doubt anyone actually listens to Barry Manilow anymore. (I was "forced" to see him when I went with my father to an AARP convention in about 1998.) 

But anyway..some of these "ancient" performers are in a type of "resurgence", buoyed by being partnered with pop stars for recordings / performances. Best example: Tony Bennett with Lady Gaga, who had a quite popular TV special and album(s) together. Others, like Cher, are now ancient but never went out of style/fashion/favor.

There is a real history of the "older acts" having a "second life" (so to speak) in Las Vegas, with examples ranging from Elvis Presley to the B-52's (currently in Vegas)!

So, on topic: many surprising acts are "still" popular in RL Vegas / Casino venues, and presumably their music would be popular in a Second Life Social Casino. In RL, many go visit certain casinos just to see these performers / acts (whether music, comedy, magic, etc.). Of course, in the RL casinos, these "big acts" play in large auditoriums.

[Qie Niangao]

4 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

The more I think about it, the odder it seems that the casino seems not to have even been designed for crowds. It can hold, what, 30 or 40 players, max, at a time? It's not really built to be crowded.

I think it's in The White Album  that Joan Didion explains how California shopping center parking lot spaces are painted. At first, when just opening, they're painted very wide, spacing the cars out so that folks passing on the freeway see what looks like a popular place despite only a few having discovered it yet. Once it takes off, they repaint the stalls much tighter so it appears there's plenty of room to park.

[Sid Nagy]

4 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Barry Manilow would be more appropriate. <= is joke!

Idea for Casino playlist: "You Better, You Bet" by The Who. Hey! We could start a Casino Playlist thread!

So..the Social Casino has NO music stream playing?

Nah, in that joint that is supposed to be glitter and glamorous?
There is only one solution for the Social Casino.  A Liberace animatronic show 24/7/365.

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, Sid Nagy said:

A Liberace animatronic show 24/7/365.

Fun fact: my parents' generation did not believe Liberace was gay.