Josephine Carissa Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 the only difference i see lately is that some creators are using " Lara " instead of " Maitreya " or ....." Maitreya Lara "......and also seems that when " Petite " is part of the sizing that it is either a add on behind the name or it has its own line farther down the list of sizes.....( we certainly have to pay attention ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevaehHeartstrings Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 What some should understand you have some small team of designers running up to 100 different stores/brands they can try to weaponize the process to make it look like a certain brand is no longer worth having, these groups also have competing Body Stores. the only thing Maitreyan or Slink ever did in my option was be too friendly and open with others, as some people find kindness to be a weakness. Some people are willing to go to any means to try and be the top dog. what they don't understand its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PekeNL Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 58 minutes ago, NevaehHeartstrings said: What some should understand you have some small team of designers running up to 100 different stores/brands they can try to weaponize the process to make it look like a certain brand is no longer worth having, these groups also have competing Body Stores. the only thing Maitreyan or Slink ever did in my option was be too friendly and open with others, as some people find kindness to be a weakness. Some people are willing to go to any means to try and be the top dog. what they don't understand its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. Except a German Sheppard will most certainly demolish a Chihuahua. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevaehHeartstrings Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 hours ago, PekeNL said: Except a German Sheppard will most certainly demolish a Chihuahua. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Blakewell Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 21 hours ago, colleen Criss said: A designer explained things to me like this, so many bodies not enough time. I would agree with that. NO one sits and rigs 24/7. to do each body is time consuming. Maitreya still has a ton of things made for it. Yes but...more designers use (at least sometimes) purchased full-perm mesh than most people realize. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzie Tuque Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Trinity1776 said: Yes but...more designers use (at least sometimes) purchased full-perm mesh than most people realize. Yes they do, in which case they are stuck with what ever the original full perm mesh maker decided to rig. Sometimes it is their own perception of what is popular or good to rig for, and sometimes it is based on their own personal preferences. Which does not always match up with what the end designer's patrons are looking for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Blakewell Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Tazzie Tuque said: Yes they do, in which case they are stuck with what ever the original full perm mesh maker decided to rig. Sometimes it is their own perception of what is popular or good to rig for, and sometimes it is based on their own personal preferences. Which does not always match up with what the end designer's patrons are looking for. I agree! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightingalia Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I'm so bummed out about this actually! I like Maitreya because of the availability of clothing and lag friendliness. Not a fan of the Legacy shape, but it does look more detailed. I wouldn't have an issue changing to Legacy if it weren't for the lag : ( 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colleen Criss Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/4/2022 at 10:47 AM, Trinity1776 said: Yes but...more designers use (at least sometimes) purchased full-perm mesh than most people realize. I do realize , recall a while back the huge *original mesh* struggles? Well, my take was always it is all original mesh by someone, it never made sense to me. But yes, as a blogger and shopper I see many of the same styles from many different creators. It's ok, everyone is trying to make some lindens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Blakewell Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) colleen, it doesn't really bother me either - there are two distinct sets of skills needed for making SL clothing today, the mesh and the texturing. I really don't mind if they aren't done by the same person or even the same brand. I would say that the availability of full perm mesh does allow a lower skill threshold for entry as far Second Life clothing designers, but hopefully the market will shake out the folks that really aren't at a skilled level with the textures. I don't want to be discouraging, but there are a lot of folks creating clothing brands in SL now that really aren't at a professional level with their texture skills. We're on such event overload right now that a lot of those folks are getting visibility. Just to be clear, I'm not referring to people who are really trying and making progress on their skills, I'm talking about people who slap a color or fabric texture on a full-perm mesh object, don't add any detail or shading or materials, and then consider themselves a designer. That is one of the reasons why I started the "trending" thread...I want to see good work recognized. There is an educational aspect of that as well. Edited August 15, 2022 by Trinity1776 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmeliaJ08 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I just wish they called the petite add on something else, it is far too easy to mistakenly buy clothes that don't fit due to sharing the name with Lara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzie Tuque Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, AmeliaJ08 said: I just wish they called the petite add on something else, it is far too easy to mistakenly buy clothes that don't fit due to sharing the name with Lar I don't know about others but anything I have seen is always clear: Lara is the original, and Petite is just what it says Petite. If Petite is not listed in the sizes then it isn't there if it just says Maitreya alone then it is the original Lara. Folks just have to pay attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeljane42 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Tazzie Tuque said: I don't know about others but anything I have seen is always clear: Lara is the original, and Petite is just what it says Petite. If Petite is not listed in the sizes then it isn't there if it just says Maitreya alone then it is the original Lara. Folks just have to pay attention. It's about Slink Petite, which was actually a thing for sometime, mostly Hourglass Petite rigs. I've seen a few stores putting up a warning for Maitreya users when Petite addon was out to pay extra attention to what petite size it was. But since Slink is pretty much dead, especially its petite addon, it's the issue only for someone who shops on the MP and digs far enough into older releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bree Giffen Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 There's a certain shopping event where I've seen several creators not designing for Maitreya but for the most part, Maitreya is still overwhelmingly supported so it's not too much of an issue. It's the closest thing to a default female avatar and we need that in SL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity Blakewell Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 The style focus where I've seen this happen...I'm not sure if there's an overall name for it, but think of the intersection of Asian Style, Cyber Punk, and Streetwear. So events that are Asian-themed are ones that these designers typically participate in - events like Harajuku, Tokyo Zero, Hondae. But some of these designers also participate in other events - especially "dark" themed, fantasy, cyber, sci-fi, role-play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskusitelnitsa Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 12:48 PM, Modulated said: Maitreya is doing it to themselves. Their kit is so ridiculously daunting to get a hold of, the creator wants to know all of your details and you probably have to sign in blood too..lol People are moving on looks like. As a creator, this is my take as well, though I don't know anyone that has actually gotten far enough in the process to sign with blood. Every creator that I know, myself included, just never heard back from Maitreya after applying for the devkit. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazzie Tuque Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, Iskusitelnitsa said: Every creator that I know, myself included, just never heard back from Maitreya after applying for the devkit. I am not so sure that is true. I have a kit that I applied for a few years back, if I recall it was not a very cumbersome process. I simply went to the website, filled in the application, answered all the questions asked of me, and waited about two weeks for the kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskusitelnitsa Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tazzie Tuque said: I am not so sure that is true. I have a kit that I applied for a few years back, if I recall it was not a very cumbersome process. I simply went to the website, filled in the application, answered all the questions asked of me, and waited about two weeks for the kit. I've applied for the kit every year since 2017 and haven't heard back and am not alone in that with other creators I know. Doing searches in my inbox for maitreya comes up with nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Iskusitelnitsa said: I've applied for the kit every year since 2017 and haven't heard back and am not alone in that with other creators I know. Doing searches in my inbox for maitreya comes up with nothing. Maybe try on this new account 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasterscan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Why ? One word, three syllables ... 'Devkits' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysistrata Szapira Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I've found that the stores that no longer create for Maitreya have an aesthetic I'm not interested in. I can't say as I've seen a non-Maitreya outfit and thought, "Darn, I wish I had that body so I could wear it." 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madeline Mysterious Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 8:04 PM, Iskusitelnitsa said: I've applied for the kit every year since 2017 and haven't heard back and am not alone in that with other creators I know. Doing searches in my inbox for maitreya comes up with nothing. I haven't released anything yer and I got the kit on my first try. The creator is really nice. The body is also super easy to rig for over the only other alternative Legacy, at least for me. I have no issues rigging for Maitreya. I can make a similar and highly detailed but optimized version any outfit that someone wants that's on another body from scratch and a lot more detailed if anyone is looking for something specific for maitreya. I have legacy too but I don't use it much and it's not just the hud I dislike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MullaiHaute Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Hey! I'm a 3D modeller starting on Second Life, and people avoid making stuff for maitreya because the proccess is harder comparing to the other bodies, the rig is very buggy, and it's very stressful to model for it.. theres no other reason 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madeline Mysterious Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It’s really not harder at all. I can rig 100s of times to maitreya entirely new clothing with precision that I can wear multiple mesh items with clipping. Especially tights with any heels, any skirts or dresses. It bothers me how people won’t fix some clipping issues I can fix faster than logging into gta 5. On 10/11/2022 at 8:56 PM, MullaiHaute said: Hey! I'm a 3D modeller starting on Second Life, and people avoid making stuff for maitreya because the proccess is harder comparing to the other bodies, the rig is very buggy, and it's very stressful to model for it.. theres no other reason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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