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On 3/18/2022 at 1:10 PM, Maitimo said:

Does anyone know if Fetlife would be a viable alternative? Do they allow screenshots/digital art?

Last I saw fetlife will allow the images, the question is orginization. If you just want to toss images out for show it works. Orginizing into albums I am not sure its there YET. I know its in the planning stage.

Another thing is who can see it. Some Fet users will be very interested espcially the SL Fet folks but any images posted on fet show up in the lastest posting wall. Agin comes down to audience control.

 

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Just an update...Flickr is now offering a different level beside full membership.  I don't have ALL the details but this is what it says...$30 less per year than regular Pro.

Flickr Ad-Free will be a new subscription option which offers you an ad-free browsing experience for $3.49/month. This service will not include other features of Flickr Pro, such as unlimited storage and advanced stats.

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Where do we stand in terms of good alternatives?

I have looked into newtumbl but it doesn't tell you if anyone is even viewing your stuff and it's feed and dashboard seem to time out on every use rather than display anything...

Has something surfaced which actually works and lets you know if you or anyone else has any level of engagement?

 

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On 9/6/2022 at 1:57 PM, UnilWay SpiritWeaver said:

Where do we stand in terms of good alternatives?

I have looked into newtumbl but it doesn't tell you if anyone is even viewing your stuff and it's feed and dashboard seem to time out on every use rather than display anything...

Has something surfaced which actually works and lets you know if you or anyone else has any level of engagement?

 

I think DeviantArt is probably the best flickr alternative. It functions similarly to flickr.

I have a newTumbl account but haven't used it much.

I have a tiny bit of SL stuff on a RL DeviantArt account. Thinking of creating a SL DA, but I paid $ for a 2 year flickr pro account a few months ago, so not yet... but DA is great as it's not limited to photography as flickr is (mostly, the addition of uploading video clips there is a recent development). That could help attract viewers who aren't into SL I would think.

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Just now, PekeNL said:

How about.. Twitter?

I post links to twitter that point to where I actually have my photos.  Twitter timeline goes by so fast that people only likely see for a brief instant.  but with Flickr and Deviant art, you can direct people to entire galleries of your work. 

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So how is deviantart working out for people? Is it actually a decent alterative or is it mostly that the main brands of SL continue on Flickr because they can afford the premium?

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1 hour ago, PekeNL said:

So how is deviantart working out for people? Is it actually a decent alterative or is it mostly that the main brands of SL continue on Flickr because they can afford the premium?

Yeah, I'll admit I can afford the 2 year Pro account. It's also the huge SL community that keeps me aboard. Even if I was limited to a free account, I'd keep my flickr going because of the huge SL community that's established itself over time, one that is the biggest outside of SL itself as far as I know.

(It's also the same for anyone on Open Sim BTW. Many more of the OS pics exist on flickr as well.)

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8 minutes ago, UnilWay SpiritWeaver said:

That seems too connected to RL to be good for SL.

I won't even view people's links to that, let alone use it for my own artwork.

I use twitter sparingly for my own stuff. I've little need to view it for other people's works as I can find plenty to view on flickr and a few other places. Of course if I do find something from twitter that leads me back to flickr, that's great!

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Pretty sure I am done with FLickr.  Account suspended and now they are forcing me to remove any photos showing any cleavage for frontal shots or skin above the thigh if I show an avatar from behind.  Not paying for a service that does this amount of censorship to any of its members.

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I gave up on Flickr many years ago. They still send me regular emails though saying I am in "violation" of not removing the excess photos and my account is at risk of being deleted. Delete away is what I say. "Violation" indeed. Did I kill their mother?! 

As for an alternative site on which to post, I am lost about that. I just save anything I feel is worth saving - and a heck of a lot that isn't - to storage sticks for now. I started an Instagram account, but then remembered I'm no longer 15 years old!

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On 9/9/2022 at 10:24 AM, JeromFranzic said:

Yeah, I'll admit I can afford the 2 year Pro account. It's also the huge SL community that keeps me aboard. Even if I was limited to a free account, I'd keep my flickr going because of the huge SL community that's established itself over time, one that is the biggest outside of SL itself as far as I know.

What bothers me about the new Flickr TOS is not whether or not I can afford to get it, but that if I ever stop paying for it because I'm not using it that month / year - they will delete all of my Moderate and Restricted stuff.

So I could buy an account now and pay for it, but the moment I step away, everything I ever put up will get zapped.

Imagine if in SL, anytime you stopped paying for your premium, they didn't just take away your linden home, they deleted your avatar's entire inventory. That's the new Flickr.

So I went and 'deleted' my inventory first, on my own, on my terms where I could at least download it all for safekeeping. Now I just have to find somewhere to put it again. Somewhere that will at least archive it if not just restrict my ability to add to it were I to stop paying, rather than flat out delete it all.

 

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59 minutes ago, UnilWay SpiritWeaver said:

What bothers me about the new Flickr TOS is not whether or not I can afford to get it, but that if I ever stop paying for it because I'm not using it that month / year - they will delete all of my Moderate and Restricted stuff.

So I could buy an account now and pay for it, but the moment I step away, everything I ever put up will get zapped.

Imagine if in SL, anytime you stopped paying for your premium, they didn't just take away your linden home, they deleted your avatar's entire inventory. That's the new Flickr.

So I went and 'deleted' my inventory first, on my own, on my terms where I could at least download it all for safekeeping. Now I just have to find somewhere to put it again. Somewhere that will at least archive it if not just restrict my ability to add to it were I to stop paying, rather than flat out delete it all.

 

I understand.

I keep backups of anything I upload online. I upload to several accounts: flickr, newTumbl, DeviantArt, gyazo, twitter, MeWe and sometimes tumblr. flickr is the site I use the most.

I think many photo sites are beginning to follow (or are already following something similar to) the LL/flickr model, and to me that does suck the life out of things but they do need to make their $$pr0f1t$$$ *shrug*. Just keep your backups handy and stable, I guess! 

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7 hours ago, UnilWay SpiritWeaver said:

What bothers me about the new Flickr TOS is not whether or not I can afford to get it, but that if I ever stop paying for it because I'm not using it that month / year - they will delete all of my Moderate and Restricted stuff.

Great question!  I hadn't thought of this.  I think, though, this is most likely the case.

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