Lets create a Startup Incubator in Second Life

[Tari Landar]

[Wili Clip]

11 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:

I have told you, now twice, that I also own the coin hunt and fish buoys, and have for years, and THAT money is what was wiped clean.

Actually you haven't told me. Mercedes did. So you've just proved that you and mercedes are one and the same person.

Where were you when the hack was happening? How much money are you talking about? I restored all the landowners lost budgets.

Coins weren't affected. So if you had them and have any budget in them they're still in the system and you're free to use if you want so. You just rez them out on land.

Let me know and I'll help you and I will still offer you support despite everything.  \O.. O/

Edited February 26, 2021 by Wili Clip

[Wili Clip]

1 minute ago, Tari Landar said:

I am not the one swearing on public forum and calling other people names... mind your culture.

[Darius Wilberg]

everyone here has been pretty civil. maybe you should get your translator looked at. no one swore at you. 

[Wili Clip]

1 minute ago, Darius Wilberg said:

everyone here has been pretty civil. maybe you should get your translator looked at. no one swore at you. 

7 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:

Ok, I'm done with you and this load of horse manure. You really are a piece of something I can't say on the forums.

[Silent Mistwalker]

It just hit me what this thread reminds me of.

SLU.

Eku vs the (so called) Blender God.

Only this thread isn't nearly as funny.

[Darius Wilberg]

my statement still stands. she never swore at YOU.

[Wili Clip]

2 minutes ago, Darius Wilberg said:

my statement still stands. she never swore at YOU.

It can be argued. But we can agree to disagree.

[Darius Wilberg]

I don't normally come here Silent.  15 years and counting in SL and i tend to stay away from the forums except to read.  But i've played Wili's games and i can say for a fact his games are designed with one thing in mind.  make him the lion's share of the money being put in to his system.

 

[Wili Clip]

5 minutes ago, Darius Wilberg said:

I don't normally come here Silent.  15 years and counting in SL and i tend to stay away from the forums except to read.  But i've played Wili's games and i can say for a fact his games are designed with one thing in mind.  make him the lion's share of the money being put in to his system.

 

The most successful product takes only 10%. That is far from lions share. Don't you agree?

Actually I am in similar position as Linden Lab the users / players are the ones making money. That is why they are using it.

If what you say was true the product would never grow. Businesses that are unfair and miss price their products never grow. That is the fact.

I say never listen to what people say. See things with your own eyes and judge for yourself.

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by Wili Clip

[Silent Mistwalker]

1 minute ago, Darius Wilberg said:

I don't normally come here Silent.  15 years and counting in SL and i tend to stay away from the forums except to read.  But i've played Wili's games and i can say for a fact his games are designed with one thing in mind.  make him the lion's share of the money being put in to his system.

 

The so called Blender God was the same way. It was all about him, not teaching people how to use Blender. He could barely even use the program himself. They were supposed to create gargoyles. Eku's turned out beautifully (as expected) but that guy's... well, it would have done Kermit the Frog justice. Needless to say the attempted Blender coup failed.

[Wili Clip]

Good Night everyone \O.. O/

[Darius Wilberg]

i wouldn't classify the most expensive buoys in the system as the most successful. they don't do anything different than the free one. They just guarantee Wili a huge chunk of money up front to offset what he wont get if they manage to keep them running 5 years straight. which most never do. You make your money either way and the person who bought in to your system is left holding the bag on a useless product as time goes on.  

 

[Darius Wilberg]

as for his fishing events and those pictures. unless he took them recently, the tops were probably de-rendered. His sim was always G rated till recently.

[Darius Wilberg]

Anyways, I'm out. have a nice day/night everyone.

[Janet Voxel]

[Dragon Mommy]

Anyone else reminded of the rambling style of those YouTube ads with people claiming they have get-rich-be-your-own-boss secrets they are willing to sell? 🤔

[Solar Legion]

30 minutes ago, Bitterthorn said:

Anyone else reminded of the rambling style of those YouTube ads with people claiming they have get-rich-be-your-own-boss secrets they are willing to sell? 🤔

All I've seen so far is an unprofessional, rambling, buzzword laden set of posts, responses and accusations.

Then again, I use Brave as my main Web browser ... No ads on Youtube.

[Mercedes Avon]

1 hour ago, Wili Clip said:

Actually you haven't told me. Mercedes did. So you've just proved that you and mercedes are one and the same person.

Where were you when the hack was happening? How much money are you talking about? I restored all the landowners lost budgets.

Coins weren't affected. So if you had them and have any budget in them they're still in the system and you're free to use if you want so. You just rez them out on land.

Let me know and I'll help you and I will still offer you support despite everything.  \O.. O/

We are not the same person. Go to your database and look at our IP addresses which I am sure you can see. Once you do that, I will gracefully accept your apology.

Also, you can go to the Marketplace, look in your sale transaction history for my name and see what I have purchased and to whom all those purchases went to (by gifting etc).

Edited February 26, 2021 by Mercedes Avon
typos

[Matthorn Avro]

Reminds me of that old adage.  If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull💩

[Luna Bliss]

8 minutes ago, Matthorn Avro said:

Reminds me of that old adage.  If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull💩

Since the substance of your first post on the forum simply trashes another I have a strong feeling you are the perfect example of your stated adage.

[Matthorn Avro]

7 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Since the substance of your first post on the forum simply trashes another I have a strong feeling you are the perfect example of your stated adage.

Nice try but I'm not the one hawking a 'startup incubator' or any scheme, and for my second post, here's another adage - caveat emptor.

[Coffee Pancake]

There are few people I find more obnoxious than self important "serious SL bizness mens" who've slurped a bit too much of their own stock.

I do not consent to this RP.

[Prokofy Neva]

On 2/24/2021 at 6:34 PM, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Not necessarily true! I know lots of long-standing and very successful collaborative, collective ventures in SL.

Of course, most of those are left-leaning collectives that value collaboration.

This, on the other hand, is a self-described capitalist venture. Isn't capitalism about winners and losers? Isn't the American version all about "rugged individualism"?

(Unless of course we're talking about those charming and quiet little "Gentlemen's Agreements" of the sort that anti-trust laws were designed to defeat.)

I think this is a narrow take on the subject based on your preferences. If you get out of the ideal of the socialist collective, and think about alternatives to it as NOT just some Ayn Randian MAGA scam, you might realize that something like a group interested in breeding and selling cats or lizards or dragons or worms (yes, there are worm farms, my God, I've seen them among my tenants) are in fact little capitalist merchant groups joined by lifestyle and self-interest and just fun. I think some people sell the cats only as a way to cover the food for them. I brutally send a lot of mine to the Menagerie in order to pay for their kibble and I don't care about their rare traits and such which is why some Chateau Cat No. 1 is now probably eating a two-colour eyed  teacup lynx with a stub tail or whatever it is that makes them rare.

And there are people who join together merely to facilitate weekend sales for all their customers and so on. There's a category of collaborative capitalism that is far more benign than some Randian rent-seeking exploiter of the environment that you imagine. Every time a We ❤️ RP type of event roles by, you are seeing a benign and fun form of capitalism in motion that you may even *gasp* take part in. These people are not tithing or turning over all their proceeds to the movement.

[Prokofy Neva]

On 2/25/2021 at 5:11 PM, Wili Clip said:

That is what [SL] Business Consortium group in SL was created for. Its open for everyone to join.

As for scaling it down or making it simpler. My idea of a SL business incubator is about bigger and long established businesses in Second Life helping smaller new ones that show promise to grow into bigger ones.

In very simple words what I am directing my energy into and what I would like to see is that we create a startup mentality in within SL to make it possible to create multi million valued businesses from within SL out.

The only way for big and long established businesses who are successful in Second Life to be willing to share their know how and really help (by also connecting their communities together) is to be able to align interests and in business the only way to do that is through joint-investments.

Like they have in automobile industry (all the companies co-own each other) - they form industry clusters and help each other with transfer of knowledge and sharing technologies.

For example Silicon Valley can be seen as a giant TECH Industry cluster. It is relatively easier to for someone with a good idea and a lot of creative energy to get investment from some tech billionaire. Because there is concentration of tech billionaires in Silicon Valley. While for example for me in my own country and my small city where there are no billionaires around I could have the best idea in the world and potential but is comparatively harder for me to raise investment capital.

Industry clusters are regional concentrations of related industries. Clusters consist of companies, suppliers and service providers, as well as government agencies and other institutions that provide education, information, research and technical support to a regional economy.

In simple words I want that the most successful people in SL - the few that somehow managed to grow something bigger (and I know that there must be a lot that have a way bigger business than mine is) - step together and help each other and the new businesses who have a growth potential.

I want that we create a type Virtual Silicon Valley. It all starts with mentality of cooperation and starting up business together by co-investing and offering support for growth. Startup mentality.

I know that there is a concentration of incredible talent in Second Life from programmers to designers. But if we never create an environment where those people can realize their potential the Second Life won't become known as a virtual world where people can start and grow real companies.

I would be willing to invest together with other SL entrepreneurs in my position into a young talented small team of people with crazy idea that want to make it in SL  and grow a real company out of it. I am talking about real incorporation and real investment and shareholding.

It is hard to comprehend for some people that something started in a virtual world could become a real life company - enterprise. It is possible. If the right people come together and if there is motivation, positivity and adventurous spirit.

Andreas Maria Maximilian Freiherr von Mauchenheim genannt Bechtolsheim gave 2 guys with and idea $100,000 investment in 1998 before the two had even incorporated their company and the company name is Google.

Startup and startup mentality is all about starting something, finding people that can perform in a team and giving them a chance to create a story.

I am looking for people that are successful in SL and are not afraid to to think big and approach the world with positive, constructive mentality. I am looking for builders.

For now we gather through this SL forum post and also SL Business Consortium.

I am reminded of the Soviets and their apt pupils like Cuba at the Vienna meetings of the UN in the mid-1990s, who would invade every discussion about human rights and freedom and capitalism with a rant about the need for "development". And another time I smuggled a Tibet leader into a meeting at ECOSOC where China was in the chair.

At the first meeting, a weary Russian dissident who had served time in the GULAG and then helped Chechen civilians flee for their lives from the Russian army, turned to the Soviets who remained after the coup (they didn't update their delegations until long afterwards) and said, "Nu, go ahead and develop."

Like, develop already, why do you need special enabling legislation, special groups, special dispensation from the Lindens. If your project meets the TOS restrictions -- and you've asked for that review -- then you don't need to use the forums, which are hostile, crazy environments, to develop. If your country no longer wants the Communist Party, and the more liberal parliament wants to junk the monopoly of the CP on every form of organization, well, guess you can't develop by force and terror any more, can you? So, well, see if a few old ladies might remain to stay in your party and do your thing. Perhaps to their credit, the Communists became more concerned with internal development and focusing on IT development and helping people with social programs. So, nu, develop.

Next, I will recall the simple one line question of a Tibetan asked of a Chinese ambassador nattering on about development as if that were a substitute for human rights and freedom.

"Who develops?"

If you can only answer that with "I do" or "my commerce circle does" held their by force because they've put money into your prims, well, it's not on.