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  1. Do not pretend YOUR art is ever "better" or more meaningful than another person's, while at the same time asking others to fund your art. That attitude alone will drive people away from "your art". While that looks like some kind of barking orders directed towards only you....it's not. You know what art is being destroyed every single day...everything, and somewhere in the world someone is mad as hell about it. I get it, and I get it on levels you and others never possibly could. I do so because the world and I do mean the literal world and all that it contains, all of its art, is being destroyed all around me. Not only are humans and the world in general destroying it all, but so is he cruelty that is genetics and piss poor luck on my part. It pisses me off to no end when people have such passion for something that they can't see past it or see that their passion might actually come across with way more arrogance than it should. This post is a good example of that. That's actually what I was referring to earlier in the thread. Not a " you didn't care about my favorite sims, so no one should care about yours"- which is what I was accused of earlier (sorry TDD I'm using your post as a jumping off point, rather than directed back towards just you). I, too want to see the sim saved, I'd like to see them ALL saved though, really, even some I probably don't like. I do love to see the passion people have, but I'm on board with the folks who say "love your passion, but it might be leading ya down some wrong paths on this". Some of you who are so very passionate, are really, really, really coming off as arrogant and pretty damn ignorant of the *other art that is all around you. I know what passion for something can cause- and it very easily can cause both arrogance and ignorance, been there, done that myself too. It happens when we feel so strongly about something. So maybe this long winded rant is really me saying..."go back and read everything, start to finish, from the perspectives of others". I mean it too, go back and read as someone with no vested interest, someone who has never been there, someone who hates cyberpunk but maybe loves other art, someone hates all "art"...whatever you want. I bet you'll come back with the same kind of head scratches loads of us reading had when the passion goes from loving this creator and this art, to throwing shade, casting nasty remarks at anyone who asked anything you couldn't answer directly (reasons irrelevant) and causing people to wonder Wtf is going on. Get out of you ur own head for a bit. I say this as someone that frequently has to do the same on things for which I have an immense amount of passion. It's super easy to get lost in your own objectives, even easier to do it and not know it. Again..it is an awesome place not condemning the owner or supporters at all, and I do hope it remains. But I hope to also see those pushing for art to remain out other getting their feel for all the other amazing places that other folks love. I have seen so many people say "I've never been there, so I went"..wouldn't it be just as nifty for the rest of the grid to see the same support too? I mean I can't possibly be asking too much here, lol. Kudos to those saving their sim, and the creator, hopefully moving forward better decisions will be made all around so that such a beloved and quite long standing place doesn't have to go through such newbie growing pains at what seems to be such a critical time.
  2. I used to have a product I made (never sold) that was used for a lot of different charity events. It was a house, a fun house of sorts, that had various different aspects that could physically affect people. This house, both inside and outside, had a LOT of warnings on it. I only really knew to add these warnings because I, myself, suffer from vision issues and have family members and friends that have issues with certain kinds of visual experiences. I also know LL takes a hands off approach and isn't likely to put up such warnings because it's not their job to do so. The same applies when I help build venues, I *insist warnings be placed, or else in wont even do the work (I place them myself during the build to ensure this is done). Sure it might be on the individual to prevent this for his/her own self to most, but that's not my take. I prefer being proactive for others, just in case :-)
  3. What Shayn is inquiring about has nothing to do with federal laws or those in the state of California. This is about gaming regions and specific state laws that prohibit access (not federal). It just so happens that Tennessee once had a ban which prohibited residents (or those with IPs located there, rightfully so or not) from entering gaming sims. That state has now changed their mind on this, so it is entirely possible, plausible, maybe probable, that LL will amend this as well. There is literally no reason whatsoever for Tennessee to remain o. The prohibited list if it no longer is. How long that will take...dunno.
  4. Been in whatever inception of forums we have had since 2004, even when I didn't login SL, was on break, etc. My favorite would've been the slex forums and that isn't a euphemism. All the long winded discussions, the vitriol, the cheese talk...really, it was an interesting place. I have always read more than I post and what I post is rarely ever welcome, but they haven't succeeded at driving me put completely just yet. I do miss the for a of yesteryear, despite all of its flaws. But I think a huge part of that for me is knowing there is a finite amount of time for me to enjoy that which I can see...pretty minimal now (you'll note way more typos that I don't care to correct anymore)..and it sucks on so many levels not the least of which is knowing I squandered my best reading and responding years on far less valuable gems than the SL fora. How's that for a lovely run on sentence? I've never much fit in, despite feeling quite included, but I don't mind not fitting in, I take it as a challenge (one most probably wish I'd stop accepting). Life is what it is, I make lemonade from it....just, sometimes o make the Costco size when all I really needed was a cup :p Long way of saying been here ages, found it as soon as I started, and never left.
  5. I actually am to an extent to, but not because of what the place is or who made it...instead it is because I simply enjoy watching people have passion about something. It really needn't require a thread about a sim at all to peak my interest. I find it a total shame that many of its supporters seem to be having the opposite effect they desire. That superiority complex is bound to bite them in the ass some day, so I'll just let that karma take its own course as she so often does. Still pisses me off to be honest that some of these long standing forks have never once stepped forth to save other just as "miraculous in the eyes of those who loved them" sims, buy seem to expect that we should all be in support of this one set...just because they say it's amazing. Hell I think it is too, but I'll be damned if I am going to tell others who don't like it that they haven't good sense. You know what this kind of support of a cause (I call it backhanded snottery, asshatery really) usually leads to, even if the call to arms (raising money) is initially successful? It leads.to that cause and those people (sim and, well supporters) having a bad rep. Does the sim owner deserve that? Nope. So knock off the better than thou crap, ask people who are interested in helping to do so and quit acting like the shutting down of your favorite virtual spot is somehow a real life disaster. It sucks, really, and I very much know what it feels.like to be so connected to something, somewhere, even virtual and then lose it. But for crying out loud the world is not going to implode. I think my give a damn is busted on this one. A.real shame, jut I think it's because of perspective and RL issues that make petty arguments about someone not being able to have her virtual cake and eat it too seems so damn odd Lmao. Now if you really wanna get in on something that can preserve art forever, for millions how about we all find a way to raise enough noise and enough funding to get me started in my working bionic eye prototype before I go 100% blind instead of 75% (much sooner than ever anticipated) and can no longer use it ..ok? If that's not a worthy cause to you...well It's ok :-)
  6. Oh FFS people, where were some of you when MY favorite sims had to be shut down (for a myriad of reasons)? Why weren't you up in arms when the very long standing, amazingly built, super user friendly, beautiful and very well loved Africa sims from yesteryear had to close? Those had far greater traffic, far more usability, far more educational content, and a much bugger audience. Why didn't you care? A work of art would be an understatement. It was truly breathtaking, well maintained, didn't collect tier funds by breaking the well known rules about nonprofit regions...ugh See how damn snotty that sounds? That's how some of you sound trying to defend someone that got caught after breaking a well kniw n rule for quite some time. I don't blame LL for not allowing them nonprofit status discount and it is not because it's a badly made region. I've been there and have been just as in awe as many of you. It truly I'd beautiful, IMO and worth being preserved (by its creator) . But, clearly, rules were broken here (having rentals once told not to previously) and LL has to take that into consideration. Are some of you even aware of the kinds of places that have come and gone which were very much loved, frequently visited, were amazing works of art, really, inspirational? Why do the ones only YOU want to save deserve your loud voices. Some of you were here when most of them came and went. So what is your excuse for not caring about them and thinking that your attitude towards them is somehow not right here for others. I wouldn't blame you for not wanting those Africa sims saved, if you didn't like them. I wouldn't tell you that you have no sense of good art, quality, an idea of what's good for SL, etc. I would say "well I'm sorry you don't enjoy it as I do" and that would be that. But, that's not been the approach here at all by those wanting to save the sim. In fact your approach has been largely coming across as "if you don't like it, its because there's something wrong with you" and also "I don't care about sims others want saved, mine deserves it more because I said so" Pfft that's ridiculous
  7. I'm not on the side of vendors, except for the fact that they're allowed to sell whatever the heck they want, within the TOS, whether I "like" it, or not. LL has said they can, so they can, and LL is the ultimate authority on this. But I also couldn't possibly find myself on the side of someone that actually thinks want and need are the same thing, lol. It sounds about as ridiculous as some of the prices and piece-parting schemes I have seen on these gachas over the years. No one "needs" a "pink outfit". You may want one, a whole lot, of course, but you don't *need it. Want and need are not interchangeable words, they have different meanings, lol. One could also say the mingling of want and need is a topic that often bleeds over from rl too, we see it all the time, really. Odds are pretty darn good, what you were looking for, is on the MP. Gacha reselling is a huge thing in sl, has been for at least the last three years(and before that, not as huge, but still very much present). I am not personally a fan, I don't play them. If I happen to see something on the MP I like, or I want, and it happens to have been (or be) part of a gacha, so be it, I still might buy it. I can count on one hand the things I have bought that were gachas in the last, erm..however long they've been on sl. Three..the number of items, is three, and all three are animals I thought, and think, are adorable, lol. I also got them at super low cost-because people dump their gachas like they've gone out of style, and often price them at far less than I might have otherwise paid. I am, however, quite admittedly, very frugal with money, generally speaking. There are few things in sl I would ever splurge on, lol (and that's not out if disrespect, but because I pinch pennies in all areas of life, even when I don't need to). No one, and I do mean literally no one, is forced to play gacha machines, or buy resell ones, either. It's not even possible for anyone in sl, including LL, to force you to We make that choice, a conscious choice. Some make the choice to play, some make the choice to buy others' discards, and some make the choice never to do so. I suspect a lot fall somewhere in the middle category, though.
  8. That's precisely where it came from, comes from...you get the point, lol.
  9. I don't find you humorless. I just didn't see misogyny in it. Girlfriends, boyfriends, friends, family members..humans in general are "expensive", in both tangible and intangible ways (and no one wants to read my wall of text on why that is so). Had someone said boyfriends are expensive, would you feel the same though? (you don't actually have to answer that, it's your interpretation, I'm not judging you, promise) That, is precisely why I find such, at least a bit, funny. I love my hubby, but he's expensive. He loves me, but I'm expensive. I love my children, but they're expensive. None of those comments are attacks, let alone derisive, they're true. To me, they're a bit funny, primarily because...they're true. Of course, your mileage may vary, as it did You assumed it contained misogyny, because you assumed there was some sort of intended attack. I also assumed, that it had no misogyny, and was indicative of actuality, and I chuckled at the raw truth contained within Then again, I do my best NOT to find attacks (my best isn't that great, I'm a work in progress), especially so when I think they're intentional, because that would be merely giving someone precisely what they wanted -I'm not always that generous. I dunno, I'm no expert at humans, let alone always interpreting them, and I don't think anyone else on this planet is either. But, perfectly a-ok to have differing opinions, it's part of what makes us such a complex species, after all.
  10. No worries here, totally not tone deaf I am mostly blind..but it's not very selective, nor volunteer for that matter. It gets me in trouble, a lot more often than I care to, or will, admit For example, I thought neither Erwin, nor Eternal, were actually serious. I read their comments completely differently than everyone else, it seems (in that, I laughed, at both)
  11. That is one of the aspects I miss the most, but, in my case, I suspect it comes from the fact that a huge portion of the people I used to converse with, once met, hung out with, came across, are no longer in sl anymore. A large amount of them have since passed on in rl, and that just hits me right in the feels all the time, even people that for whatever reason I had fallen out of favor with (to put it nicely) or out of contact with over the years...still hits me in the feels. Was reminiscing on this just yesterday, looking at the threads of old pics here on the forums, and my own stashes here and there. Found a couple of pics of people I knew I once knew, but couldn't place the name...then I found the name and I went..."awww...he/she passed away in...(insert year)", or "I wonder how he/she's doing all these years later". Timid me says..."don't go looking, he/she might still hate you, for whatever reason, justified or not", but curious me says "poke it with a stick". I rarely ever poke though Back on topic...while I have found a large number of people still willing to do this, converse with/befriend just about anyone (depending on where, and sometimes WHO, you are), the regularity of such doesn't seem as consistent as it once was. Obviously, griefing was always a thing, was always going to be a thing, and would grow as the community numbers did too. But even in 2008 when I came back for good, there was still a lot more regularity of this general chit chat, banter, befriending, finding common interests,...not really sure what to call it, lol. I met a lot more friendly strangers (and few come stranger than me, so please take that as a compliment my fellow strangers) back then, I guess, ESPECIALLY in sandboxes/public areas-which is where I learned to do just about everything. Though in the ones I use now, most folks are pretty cool, they're not well traveled sandboxes, so, it's pretty much always the same people lol. My original av is from 2004, but I admittedly never gave sl much of a chance back then, plus, rl was hellish at the time, so, my time capacity for sl would've dwindled real fast anyway- and that av is long, long gone, plus TSO was more fun for me, and I could play it from a hospital room, sl I couldn't. I came back when life settled a lil bit, in 2006, but still barely gave sl the time of day, and eventually forgot the name and password (and still don't remember it, lol)-compared to 2008 when I came back permanently that is. Even in 2008 when I came back for good on this av, I was still all "how the hell do I...?" noob lmao. Which just goes to show how much true attention I really gave to the platform.
  12. Entirely possible, lol. I do actually know people who have never missed them, people who have only missed some, and folks who have missed most. The latter category is nearly always a mix of email provider issues, plus the system being buggy on LL's end. But, the system really is buggy and has always been, lol. Then again, I nearly always expect most systems(of any sort) to have bugs somewhere along the line. So,I consider it somewhat expected behavior, except when it goes full on fruit loop (which the communication methodologies for LL's various systems have done quite a lot over the years, lol). The message system(s) in place for the MP are far, far worse than the offlines to email system though, always has been. Although, I'm not really sure precisely why, since I don't know their back end, I do know they're capable of doing better. The fact that offlines to email actually works so much better, even at its worst, is proof they can.
  13. Long thread, read it all yesterday, but never bothered responding, lol... So, what would I do, if I were LL... TLDR;-fix what exists, before looking to add new issues 1-Focus on some of the issues that have plagued the JIRAs, the grid, the viewers, etc., for years. All of them, obviously, are not easy fixes, hell maybe most of them are not easy fixes, I'm not LL, I don't want to add any certainty onto that statement, because of that factor. That said, there are some issues that no one, including LL, can reasonably deny LL has pushed on to the back burner, or shoved in the furthest corners of the closet, for a myriad of reasons(most we, mere residents, will never know), for far, far too long. No one, including LL, can also reasonably deny that some of these issues, have been the driving force behind people scaling back on their use of sl (some, to the extreme of never coming back). 2-See #1 One of these issues is the all encompassing MP. Yes, LL has done some work, and bravo to them for doing so...FINALLY. The MP team has dealt with a lot of vitriol, much of which I, personally, believe that LL could have mitigated if they took complaints a wee bit more seriously, and stopped with the "we'll look into it" mantra. It's grown painfully obvious that "we'll look into it" isn't always the best suited response, nor even necessary, in some cases (most when it comes to MP, really). LL doesn't know, all too well it seems, how to best use its resources at current level, much less at an increased level. How many times have LL asked us, user (be you merchant, customer, or simply a free floating entity within sl that categorizes one's self as neither...you're a user, lol) what we would like to see improved? The answer is- way more than most of us may remember, and way more than they should have to. How many times have they actually listened to our answers though, or taken them seriously, or even really considered them? Now, some they may not listen to because it's super hard to implement what we want, while maintaining what they need, I totally get that, in ways no one wants to read, I really do. But some of them...come on now. Go to the merchant forum, look back on the countless discussions about "what's wrong with the MP, how can it be fixed, what should we do, what do you want to see...." threads. Some of the things LL has done, to seem to appease to us, are, well, laughable, at best, or simply poorly implemented,. Merchants and customers alike have given plenty of feedback, not all of it usable, but some of it, most definitely. I don't know if it is because LL foists too much responsibility on a very select and small group of employees, if LL doesn't care, if LL can't implement and doesn't know how to tell us, if....you get my point. Why we don't know, is primarily due to another issue that has plagued LL since sl's inception-communication. They are great at times, at others, they are horrid, and usually it falls somewhere between the two. That's an issue only LL can fix, and no amount of us telling them "TALK TO US!!!" is going to solve, obviously, lol. So, my solution to a great many of their issues- those that plague functionality, retention, etc..., is to utilize resources better, and find a way to obtain resources they do not yet possess, but greatly need. That's a pretty broad brush, not one I envy them for taking on-should they decide to do so, but it is a brush I think worthy of picking up and putting a bit more effort into getting onto the canvas. It seems, at times, they try, and sometimes those attempts are while not successful, a valiant effort, and recognized (ok maybe not by all, but by some of us). But most of the time, that effort is very short lived and we return to where we were, hence the sheer amount of vitriol over issues that may seem minor to some, but just due to their longevity-and time spent being ignored by LL, are extremely obnoxious. I don't deny LL is a business, and it is designed to make money, period. That is the bottom line of EVERY business. How they get there though is important. LL has made some awesome decisions, some ok not so bad decisions, some ok now you're pushing it LL but we'll keep an eye on this decisions, and some super crappy decisions. Where one stands on these decisions depends entirely on one's experience, dependency, whatever, on said issue(s). Let's not pretend that LL is some business that is teetering on the edge of profit and loss, it isn't, and hasn't been for a long time. Of course, costs increase over the years, but some of the resources LL either needs, or needs to better implement, used to be far more costly than they are today. So, factoring in that LL still needs to make money, it would serve them well to look into these things a bit more closely, and stop with the "we'll look into it when we can".. "We can", is today, as things they have needed for a long time, are far more widely available today, and far more attainable by a company with the profit margin LL has at this very moment. Ten years ago "We'd like to implement/obtain this resource, but it would cost us more, which in turn will cost you more"-would've been a VERY reasonable response, to a great many issues. Today, not so much, at least not in all cases. I don't pretend to know LL's back end (including all of their costs), please don't take my words as me assuming I do. I just know they can do better, and if they really listened to the community, in the way(s) they seem to want us to think they do, a lot of the problems would've already been solved. It would be way less of demolish this to fix that scenario and increases in cost(s) to users, would be far easier to swallow. As it stands, I believe a lot of the problems with cost increases to users is coming from the "why the hell are you charging us more for the exact same crap we've had for years" standpoint. I may not always agree with that standpoint, lol (and I really don't, cost increases are part of business...period) but I can understand where it might come from. To make this longer..I'm not against cost increases to users, at all. In fact, I expected it years ago, really, despite not being premium myself, it always surprised me that they didn't do it. But that also raises the question of why they never had to increase costs, and why they maintained a pretty high profit margin for so long. Why are they now suffering(that may be a bad term, my apologies if it really doesn't fit) so much that they are taking away, to give, but still maintaining the same level of "we'll look into it". I suspect this is why many think they are now going to be paying for the mistake that was/is Sansar. It seems LL has some kind of money sink they didn't have even five years ago-and it's not resources being used to the betterment of the grid. If it were resources for the betterment of the grid, the deafening silence (poorly constructed communication methods) would not be *still* necessary after all these years. Adding "new shinies" doesn't make old issues go away, either, and LL really needs to take that under serious consideration going forward (but I've said that for years, yet I am still here..I have faith someone at LL will eventually do this, lol..ok, I'm just weird, whatever...it often gets me a lot of backlash, lol) That's my tree fiddy
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