Jaylinbridges

I created a new alt last night too. I signed up for free Basic, and when I got my account details, there was the button to download the SL Viewer. I already had the SL Viewer installed, but I pressed the download button anyway, and it sent me the 7.0.0.580782 - GLTF PBR Material Import viewer, instead of the Default SL Viewer. Since I didn't want to remove my Default viewer and use an Alpha/Beta viewer, I logged into my existing SL Viewer with the new alt name and password. (I was not logged into SL on any other viewer.) It sent my alt to the Firestorm gateway, the same as you. I do not think this is random. LL is figuring out my new Basic account is an alt somehow, and therefore sends me to anyplace but their new Welcome Hub. FYI: I used my normal IP. I used a new email address. I used a new fake birth date. I used a different security question. I used my normal desktop computer. All you need to do is start up a viewer, but not login, and LL has all the unique information about your computer. They must compare this to their existing database, and decide to send you to anywhere but the Welcome Hub if your pre log-in data finds a match. So, thinking I should have used the viewer they sent me on the LL new user login page, I installed the alpha PBR test viewer they sent me. I hope a real newbie does not get this lag test program. It took one look at my graphics and set me to between Low and Mid. Ugh - 2006 graphics. It set the LOD to 1.15, so low that the trees less than 128m away at the Firestorm hub did not rezz at all. Anti-aliasing was disabled. DD was defaulted at 128m, no way to turn off ALM of course, and well graphics looked like sh*t. But I was able to find a LM to the Welcome Hub, using Destinations and the Social Casino. Once I managed to get to the Welcome Hub I noticed the signs were half rezzed or not at all. The arrows on the floor that guide you through the intro steps also did not rez. The entire floor of the welcome area was just a fuzzy white. This was because of the PBR test viewer. I have never had any rezz issues with either FIrestorm or the SL Viewer, using High-Ultra settings at the Welcome Hub before, with the same computer. So how does one get the actual first time SL user experience? LL has made that nearly impossible for existing residents and their alts.

The first question I asked the new mentors was if all of the new accounts were being sent to the Welcome Hub. No one knew for sure, just several guesses. I wonder if you start a new account and as soon as you can log in, you switch to Firestorm? I logged in with the SL Viewer with my last alt, but as soon as I landed at a Welcome Island, I logged off and logged back in with Firestorm. If you show up not using the SL Viewer as a newbie, do you get sent to some other hub? Does anyone get sent to the Belli Hub before they pay for a Premium account, and why? So what's the queuing algorithm LL is using for new accounts? The new Welcome Hub is open to anyone of any age or viewer. But a real new account should only be sent to the Welcome Hub it seems to me.

I would like to hear ALL the ways a non-skilled basic account only (No PIOF on file) newbie can earn lindens in SL, from the mentors. This is such a common question that the mentors must have an official list to read and send to the linden-less newbie. Might be time for another homeless alt, living on leftover pizza from the nearby shop by the bridge I live under with my drug selling buddies, to ask the new mentors. All of my alts at least have PIOF, so they can actually earn a few lindens in the Linden Games. Maybe the mentors will loan me a dime (25 $L). Another newer version with Boz Scaggs: "No autotune. No plastic, soulless overproduction. Talent, craft, understated musicianship and technical prowess. And on top, raw emotional vocals." Another plug for real music, my passion.

Too bad they can't just TP to SL clubs - there is life in SL. (11:30 PM SLT Saturday) Put the mentors at active clubs?

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Residents over a six month time from rezz day will all have widely different experiences and opinions about SL. I assume you will account for their time in SL, and even construct a learning curve based on what 5 day, 15 day, 30 day, etc. residents will tell you. I doubt you will find a sample size large enough to conclude that much. Six months residents will probably be less critical of SL (unless they are gamers or scripters). It can take one year to get up to speed in SL, if you are really active.

Heat and age will cause some cheap plastics to become brittle. And some made in China brands may have poor standards for their plastic insulation, likely to save money. I have a KOSS headphone cable that seems thick enough for the DJ Pro headphones attached, but the plastic insulation just sort of fell apart in the spiral cord after 1 year. Same model headphones that are 10 years old and the cord is like new. Both used in the same environment. Sign of the times, increase the price and reduce the quality. I have noticed these new higher power PSU's tend to have thinner power cables. They save money by using a smaller gauge of copper. But that can cause the cable to be warm, and with inferior plastic materials, it could fail. I have power cables that are 25 years old that are still flexible and thicker, because they didn't skimp on the materials back then. Also check if the connector on either end is getting warm at all. Another sign of poor quality construction in a power cable. I did have a GF whose cat was always chewing thru the power cable from her laptop. In one case it knocked the cat unconscious from the shock, and he was never quite right after that. The cable was nice and chewy though, not brittle.

You would need to wear an SL Achievement HUD to keep track of your tasks. The early HUD versions would have bugs and would need beta testers. Wearing 100K items doesn't seem like an achievement to me. I assume that's not all at once. This would also discriminate against men, where it's hard to even find 100K items to wear, after 10 years. For a newbie, the low number achievements seem reasonable. But there needs to be an incentive to spend all this time doing things you might not care about. A 1000 $L award for completing all these "quests" would be the least LL could offer.

Doubletalk. Sid wrote the content from his own observations in his life, and stuck to it, as he should. I love you, it's just what you say that I hate. Hey, another backhanded "compliment".

But most of my friends are boomers, and my business depends on them. So you give them a false compliment and they never know the difference. Note that I got four positive upvotes, while you got one laugh, from a boomer.

I try hard to make helpful compliments and advice. Before fitted mesh for specific shapes, "you really should wear an alpha layer around your hips, because I can see fat poking thru the dress in the rear." My favorite - "could you try to set the slider to thin down your lips?" Maybe I missed the point of this thread...

Hey Boomer! Being a pre-boomer, I don't take that as an insult. Boomers also built this country after the Great Depression and WW2 - without the boomers you would all be using your party line telephones. Boomers also did not think they were God's gift to the world, although they raised their children to think that.

How hard would it be to count the number of attached items on an avatar, and limit it to 100 or so? If LL was building a car and the brakes failed, they would hit the accelerator as a feature.

File a ticket. Maybe when you became a Lifetime, they reset your transaction history. Definitely a programming mistake. Or no programming for the Lifetime accounts at all - since these accounts were all processed manually, human error seems more likely.

Library avatars are (no transfer). Except Greg's 1960 transistor radio.- it is full perm.

Nobody can make predictions except Patch

There are not really things to do in the WelcomeHub other than quickly wander through the regions. Shopping is retail over-priced system clothing and 1500L AO/dance huds. Newbies have no lindens, unless of course they first enter the WelcomeHub and click on the BUY Lindens object and spend $10 USD (w/fees) before they have a clue what is going on. They also need a payment method to buy Lindens. How many newbies are going to go thru that process with a bank account or paypal on their first day? Everything in the WelcomeHub should be free. Same as the other private newbie places. Gambling, the Social Casino? You can't earn lindens there, and the games are not much fun. And of course, no music. Buy a Premium account so you can have a Linden Home? See above about spending your dollars before you know what's going on. Watch a bad machinima movie in the theatre? Sorry the movie had no plot and I was bored after the first 30 mins. I realize there were 100's involved in producing that SL inworld video, but I think that cartoon film making should be left to talented folks with modern tools working for a RL studio. (I think the movie theatre will not show any films that SL does not have the rights too, so this is more of an introduction to SL private builds and fantasy avatars than an entertainment video.) A free sandbox? Ok that's nice. Newbies can start designing castles as their first learning task. Do the mentors teach building inworld? Motown - everything's been said already. The music is canned and not shared with anyone in real time, assuming you can get the Styng HUD working. Might as well listen to your own playlist on Spotify. Not a social experience. Non official mentors helping out? Sure, but the newbies will have to download Firestorm once they learn to walk. It is not worth the hassle to load up the SL Viewer for most experienced SLers. I would need a brand new alt, that had no groups in it, to use the SL Viewer. And I would lose my patience after 10 mins. I have used the viewer to help my friends, and there is so much missing in the SL Viewer, that I gave up in frustration. I switched my friends to Firestorm, told them how to tune down the Preferences so it would work with their low level laptop, and suddenly they started to enjoy SL. Oldies standing around helping newbies at the Welcome Hub? What are the mentors with their LL mentor rule sheet going to say? I guess a throwaway alt getting banned is not the worst thing.

There were 12 newbie accounts and no mentors around at 9:30 pm SLT, at the Welcome Hub tonight. I did my part by inviting one of them to a music club with 30 avatars and a great DJ. The hostess helped him get on her dance HUD, and he's got a club tag now. His first 2 hrs in SL. He was dancing on the stage with the band. Just throw them in the water and hope they can swim.

A more complete list of Motown younger artists: https://www.motownrecords.com/releases/ I can safely say that as a DJ I have never heard of a single one of them, much less played them on request. But then we are a Blues club full of mostly 40 and over patrons. We are obsolete, as SL aims for the the "new" music, such as this MoTown artist: We do play some Motown, since the history of Black migration to the North saw Blues and gospel singers ending up in Detroit, so it is just another genre for us. But it is almost all Classic Motown we play. We do not play hip hop or disco - we would lose all our patrons. The MoTown HUD seems to start with Motown Love genre, which is all the old good groups before hip hop hit in the late 70's. So far every new account from 0 to 5 days I see visit in Motown stay for about 30 secs, since the place is deserted. It's likely they never get the music HUD working too. You need to set your Media preferences correctly (which you can not read on the HUD), and then tp to another region and TP back to get the HUD music, after about 15 secs of waiting. Not a newbie friendly experience.

I recall someone in this forum who was a mentor at one of the older SL mentor programs, saying this is why SL cancelled the mentor program back then. So it's not hypothetical if it has already happened as you suggest. More like history repeating itself.

I think this is mainly new users trying to log into SL with an inadequate system, or network, or both. If the basic inventory cannot log in because of packet loss, or a laptop from 2008 meant for email, SL will time them out. Usually their cloud from missing body parts with also go away. But if you still see them as a cloud and on radar, they could just be standing there as a cloud, not knowing what to do. They might go to bed or go to work, and just leave their account with the missing inventory logged in. Might be a Quit Moment, or I'll try when I have time moment. I see stuck avatars, some clouds, some running in place, and for hours at a time. Maybe their computer has locked up, and they have no idea how to reboot or shut it down. Or are afraid if they pull the power plug it could damage something. Most of these stuck avatars are new accounts.

I find this whole topic confusing. We can't tell newbies what to do first in SL, so I guess the question is should LL focus more on introducing new residents on the two lower levels of SL life needs, by advertising, mentors, and strategically placed rumors ? The lowest level include non-romantic sex and sleeping, which can be simulated in SL. Fortunately food, water and excretion are optional. I sometimes sleep in SL when I go sleep in RL, but if they removed all sleep poses, I could still survive. The second level seems more important, except of course morality. Finding a home (body security), employment and property or a family are early goals but they could be at the chart top. Nobody likes to be homeless for long. How many new residents can just jump up to the Love/belonging level and skip the lower needs? If you are a famous rock singer or movie star, maybe. Otherwise the lower levels come first. The more I think about this, the more I think this question at the LabGab was a waste of time. Get newbies started with the basics and hope they find a buddy to mentor. All these higher needs are academic psycho blab . I think Oberwolf had the best answer: Next Question.

I changed it to raw sex, since sexual intimacy is also in the third layer. Newbies looking for 1st day sex belong in the bottom layer. And as Morgan explained, sex is a basic need determined by your hormone levels, and age. His early research on animals, hormones, and sexual behavior was interesting.

I will chime in to remind you this is not always true. Maslow's theories on Feel Good psychology, or Humanistic psychology pretty much ignored sick people with clear physiological causes, and his therapy failed to help those with an actual bodily cause. I took my first psychology course, Psych 101 in 1961, and the lecturing professor was Dr. Clifford T. Morgan. Morgan was the leader in experimental and physiological causes of behavior and was a cofounder of the Psychonomic Society** in 1959. He was a scientist who believed in experimental data, as opposed to opinions and soft "research". Maslow's name was never mentioned or referenced in Dr. Morgan's 1961 textbook, Introduction to Psychology. I never heard of Maslow until Strawberry read that question, since my major was engineering, not psychology. (** The mission of the Psychonomic Society is to foster the science of cognition through the advancement and communication of basic research in experimental psychology and allied sciences.) On another subject, sex (raw) is in the bottom layer of the triangle. As a few keep reminding us, you can't skip sex as an attraction in SL, by skipping the lowest layer. I wonder why the triangle posted by the LabGab did not mention that. I also would argue that for a significant number of present SL residents, SL does provide some of the basic needs in the second layer, at least employment and family, part of the second Security layer. It does for me, and several people I work with every day.

Like most clubs, the patrons can use the dance balls for free, or anyone with a dance HUD, hostesses or DJ's can also add someone to the dance in the HUD. We don't actually give someone a gesture or a dance to take home. The dances in the HUDS and Intans are of course paid for by the owner of the HUD or Intan, and have full rights to attach other avatars while they are within range. So this is nothing like these individual song plus dance gesture STYNGS that STYNGR is trying sell in SL for 1250 $L per song. Hopefully a newbie will find a real SL music club before they think the STYNGs are how you listen to music in SL MoTown is just confusing because there is nothing else like it in SL and could convince a newbie that SL music systems really suck, as they log out forever. If someone is going to listen to their own STYNG on Media, and use their own dance gesture, they will have no need to go to a club. And the DJ or performer will have no reason to provide music to someone who is not listening to the club music stream, or joining the other patrons who are on the club dances. Paying royalties for online streaming is a whole different subject. The royalty system is not set up for small time virtual clubs that are losing money already by playing music to a few patrons, for essentially nothing after expenses. The only DJ's that might be paying the $1500 USD/yr just for streaming will also have an online 24/7 web radio music station that begs for dollar donations to help defray the costs of the music and streaming fees, and have RL web listeners. If the music industry ever figures out how to force SL performers to pay royalties for their music, I will be glad to pay them as a percent of my linden earnings after expenses. I will send them my check for $3 every quarter. As it is they assume you are a web broadcaster and have a mininum fee of $1500/yr, paid in advance every January. SL is off the radar because there is no money to be collected here. Clubs will simply close down and leave SL along with the performers, if there is any problem.