Jaylinbridges

I assume someone has hijacked the OP's account, and is making a troll post here. Since he never explained how he was being "greefed", I have to assume he is just using this an excuse to raise quick cash for LL. Now who would be interested in doing that? Hmmm?

Breeders keep their cats in the 2D box 1 prim form because they save on prims. Not every breeder can afford a 5000+ LI parcel, just to keep the cats as 13-17 prim 3D objects. I keep my kittycat PETS as 3D, and breeding stock as 2D. The pets are around my home and yard, and interact with us and other cats. The breeders are on a work platform. There is no reason why breeding cats need to be 3D and primy. My partner and I already have about 20 pets, all 3D and interactive. Why would I also want another 100 breeder cats to be 3D on a platform I only use as a workspace? You need some detachment if you are a breeder, vs a pet owner. Obviously if you have live cats in Belli, you are already short on prims, and would leave most of your cats as 1 prim objects. And as I keep saying, put the boxes and breeders on a high platform, out of sight of snoopy Belli neighbors. Leave your pets where you can enjoy them at ground level. They should raise the pet limit to 4 at land levels. And it is nobody's business whether someone chooses to save prims by using a lower prim mode for a breedable, just keep them out of sight for the neighbors. There are quite a few 1 prim life size photos of a 2D Patch Linden around Belli too. I found them collecting candy from the pumpkins. Should I AR the owners, for not having Patch in 3D and moving? I found a full size 2D color cutout of Patch staring at me from behind a pumpkin to be a lot creepier than a kittycat box.

Absolutely untrue, You are making assumptions here. She was complaining about seeing the hover text above the boxes. The default is no hover text. She could have just asked the neighbor to turn off the hovertext, instead of sending an AR to Governance. When you buy a kittycat box, you must rez them in world at least once, to inform the kittycat server that you are the new owner. Just the box, not unpack and birth the kitten. After that you can do whatever you want with them. Storing your own boxes in world is not against the Belli TOS. Each box uses 1 prim. Seems that is a personal choice, where you store your boxes, and not every busybody neighbors business.

If the boxes were not priced, so you could not buy them in Belli, then they are not for sale. Boxes, full or empty, are just objects, and are allowed in Belli. The covenant says the tags on those boxes should be turned off, if visible at the land level from off your parcel. If you store boxes in a skybox, nobody can see the tags. Same with every other object displayed in Belli that is not for sale. Many sellers do display their products in Belli, anywhere on their parcel, but they are not for sale. Art galleries, furniture, building parts for Belli homes, all visible either outside or inside their Linden Home. All perfectly legal. If you are interested in purchasing something on display, you look at the owner's profile, and the designers profile, and find their MP or in world store, outside of Belli, or send them an IM. New kittycat owners are often so excited about their new unpacked (unborn) kitty boxes, that they put them on their walls, in place of other pictures. Some put them outside, because they are excited and proud of them. They usually get over this when they get up to 50 boxes, and then send them to the cattery or inventory. It sounds like you have never been into breedables, or you would understand what I am saying. The official Kittycats open help group now has 23,648 group members. There are probably twice that many that own kittycats but do not care to be in the official group, because they never breed them, and might only have one of the free permapet cats that are sometimes available at the main store.

Why are you confused Rowan? Have you ever owned a kittycat?

Someone buys a new mesh body, and the body is delivered in a packing box which you rezz to unpack. How creepy, putting a human body in a tiny box, and even showing a model picture on the box. Totally creeps me out that sellers put their avatar creations in a box to sell, and put a photo of the avatar on the outside. That is what you are basically saying. Kittycats in boxes are just a way to sell unborn cats, or to store new cats that are not born. Horses use a pile of hay for unborn horses,, etc. . These are nothing but packing boxes with scripts inside that can be activated by a click. The same as any scripted object, such as a chair with scripts. The cat is not alive until it is unpacked using the Unpack button on the box. At that time, the box vanishes (can take 5-10 mins for dramatic reasons) and a tiny kitten appears, and now you need to also feed it kibble, which you pay extra for. That is the start of the life of a kittycat. In 7 days, the tiny kittycat grows to a full size cat, and in another 7 to 10 days, the cat can first breed with another mature cat IF the owner decides they want a new kitten, with traits that can come from both parents, obeying standard genetic rules. You can also turn breeding off after 14 days, and only have a pet forever. Kittycats are both pets that interact and play, and breedables if you choose. The boxes are just boxes with a picture on them. The actual box is a small square cardboard box with no picture or text at all. If you want to see a preview of what the new kitten will look like, you can click on the featureless cardboard box using the Image button, and see a 2D Image of the fur and face, that the creator took in their studio. This is how unborn cats are sold. There are 100's of thousands of these boxes for sale all over the grid. You can also buy a generic cat directly from the kittycat main store. They arrive as a pair of unknown traited cats in a large round bag. They are not alive in the bag, it is just another way to pack scripts and objects for delivery. Hovertext is easily turned off by the menu activated by clicking on the box.

Clearing my cache gives me more room on my 20 MB hard drive to download dirty jokes... (<-- is joke) If the cache is corrupted though, and that was a recent issue with the rapid logoff change LL made, then clearing the cache fixed that problem, until FS added a fix to .gz index file corruption from rapid logoffs & logons. A Windows issue too that LL never considered.

But if there is NO problem, and you are in no way affected, why is it your business to send AR's to Governance? Is this some kind of sadistic hobby for some people? They created rules based on worst cases, and mainly because the number of homes/region is so high, that if Everyone rented a home in the region, and they ALL wanted to have breedables, then depending on the breedable, the region would lag. Of course nothing like that would ever happen. And if it did, 1 chance in 10,000, they could simply take action. I do not support breedable farms in SL, btw, because some breeders have no idea what they are doing, and could create a mess of physical moving animals all bumping into each other. But for pet owners, and those who simply buy a pair of breedables, and want an offspring, the TOS prevents this. If SL was the RL government, would they put a limit of 1 child/household, because you know, kids playing can be noisy and bother the neighbors?

LL Residents will never stop believing old wives tails about SL technology. Oh sorry I guess this is off topic.

No, they are physical and temp objects. The leaves only rez and fall once a second, and derez in 1 min. Each leaf is 1 prim. That's not many snowflakes, so the rez rate would need to be much larger. Assuming the ground already has a snow cover texture, the derezz time could be shorter. More practical would be to sub divide the building into its own parcel, and set it to no object entry for non group members. Then use a non-group alt for the snow generator owner. The particles should stop at the parcel boundary around the house. Of course the roof would never get snow landing on it. Probably a simpler problem than accurate mirrors though.

I have falling leaves from trees that already bounce off of any non-phantom object, and cannot pass through any solid non phantom object. The leaves need to be physical of course. So this is nothing new.

Straight Males should not be posting in this thread. They indeed don't do much of anything with each other. So the answer to Love's question is, nothing. All the stereotype guesses by the women and LGBTQ community are only insults. I suppose I will be put on ignore for saying this.

Well not exactly. I have always had a large private island parcel, since I joined SL, and have always kept my breeding activity to that large parcel. I usually rent parcels with 5000 LI's, so have always had land and multiple sky platforms to carry on my businesses and my home life with my partner. But I would like the option to have more than 2 pets in Belli. Just because they were once also breedables, that aged into pets that became permapets (do not need to eat or get sick) I like to have them around, and since they interact, 2 pets is not enough. Sometime I would also like the option of having an Alt breed a few kittycats, but on their own land. With the present rigid rules I can do none of the above in Belli. Same with having a very low traffic shop in the sky. Not allowed, even though it would zero impact on other Belli residents. So I got tired of rigid rules to "please the majority" in general in Belli. Private islands with reasonable owner/landlords is the only way for me to go. I got a houseboat the first day Belli was opened, and a Stilt Home when they first came out, and have owned trailers, Fantasy Homes and the box homes too. The attraction was water and air access, not the houses and rigid HOA rules. But, I can do the same water and air travel with no LH, and since they added all the restrictions to please the "retired leisure generation"" there was nothing left there for me. My partner loves the kittycats, and has about 15 of them roaming around our private island skybox. They are entertaining enough for her that she would be bored and sad without them. If we moved to Belli she would be allowed two, and I would have none. Even on a ranch parcel, only two animals is ultra stupid. Belli is fine for animal haters though. I also recommended a Belli home to several friends, and they happened to have a few Kittycats as pets. They were NOT breeders. Once they moved to Belli, they found out the limit of 2 "breedables" per parcel, including their pets. They all left when their lease was up, usually 3 months. I no longer suggest anyone live in Belli if they are animal lovers.

You ignore the high skyboxes, over 2000 m, which are not low hanging (illegal in Belli), and a rule that would limit any breedable operation to high out of sight skyboxes, using "farming" methods that do not add script lag. Most rental companies even spell out the conditions in their covenant. LL could just copy their rules. Simple solutions seem to evade some...

Most breeders use a sky platform or sky building for all of their breedables. I have mine at 3000 meters, with scenic walls. No one sees it unless they fly up 3000 m and hit my security orb, where they have 15 secs to leave before they are sent home. At my land level, I have a beach and small beachouse, with no sign I have any pets or breedables at all. JIAN pets cause more lag - are JIAN pets banned in Belli? Teegle animesh horses consume more script time, and use too many prims. There is no good reason why a Premium Home owner could not have 5 pairs of breedables in the sky, above 3000 m. Breedables, since they are stationary, like a chair, cause less lag than roaming pets. The photo from the OP shows how a proper breedable "farm" should look. One Prim stationary boxes, and in this case partnered pairs, and no lag or effect on anyone. Why are peeps snooping inside Belli home bedrooms with their camera? Isn't that an issue too? I believe in evidence-based rules - not worst case lazy rules based on nothing but simplifying Lindens' workload. Many private island rental companies have reasonable rules for breedables, and are based on actual evidence if they are causing lag. That's why don't I don't live in Belli anymore, where I had three homes at one time when Belli first opened. My Premium land tier is for my mainland shop, also in the sky. I don't use it to breed, just have inventory for sale with Torgan profiliers to list them on the internet. That would be illegal in Belli too. My sky shop on mainland gets about 10 visitors per week! No avatar load on the region at all. Customers visit my shop because they already found the cat and price they want, TP directly to the kittycat, buy the box, and leave. Shop browse time is less than 5 mins/visitor. I keep a log of all visitors. Abnor's assumption that breeders make a profit is also funny. Most do it for the challenge of breeding, or as a collectibles hobby, because that is what it turns in to when you gamble with statistics rigged against you.

Those kittycats, since they are all fixed, cause no physics lag, and very little script lag. One avatar with a mesh body causes more lag than 50 kittycats as fixed breedables. But the covenant rules don't care to distinguish between actual laggy breedables, and those that cause no detectable lag. Belli is anti breedables, and best to not live there if you have any breedables, no matter how little they affect a region. And all the pets roaming around, animesh and otherwise, actually do cause lag, but are still allowed in Belli. I have a kittycat "breedable farm" with 50 active kittycat breedables on a parcel, and have no lag at all, based on both observation and the Statistics numbers. And I been doing this for the last 10 years! I can't speak for other poorly designed breedables or moving pets, but those kittycats in the OP picture are causing no detectable lag! Kittycats can also be bred offline from a web site. Most breeders that do not have the prims or land do that. But still only 2 kittycats/owner is no fun even as pets. Just move to a private or mainland area so you won't be hassled.

If a resident wants to stream their own material into second life, they should be technically aware that using the SL Viewer for streaming to others is not technically trivial, and would be difficult to add to the viewer. The more private services can be removed from dependence on LL and run offline, the better, IMO. The SL viewer has enough trouble with their voice application, which is still a plugin by a 3rd party. It won't happen because no one would use it after they crashed a few times.

Streamcast is a service that allows text overlays onto media, using the common streaming services such as Shoutcast, Icecast, Radionomy, Radiojar, etc. I have no idea why you think LL should form their own streaming service for "broadcasting". Why would I want to send my Shoutcast stream directly to LL, instead of my private music streaming provider? I can already broadcast audio to 1000 listeners at 128 kbps mp3 for only 600 $L per month. If LL added the same type of service integrated in their viewer, they would make it a profit center service, and charge at least 6000 $L/mo, and probably require Premium membership. If this was mandatory, they would kill all the DJ's and live streaming music in SL. And when the viewer crashed, your music stream would also crash. Worst idea i have ever heard in this thread.

Kittycats is still the most popuilar. Hard to believe after 14 years.

Like my Alt? Nobody is interested in her or her cat (ignored at the Fogbound meat market):

Here's my new alt at Fogbound with her new pussycat. She can't get any IM pickup offers there, and I can't figure out why. Maybe the guys don't like cats. She is wearing the Jamie avatar with the sexiest outfit they had for her in the Library. She's a physics major too, so smart, with a great personality.

I did not say anything about requiring setting privacy, only that it is your responsibility to do so. If you want to have explicit sex in your front yard and take no precautions to abide by the "behind closed door" policies, then you could be ARed if that shocked someone. If you took precautions, then Governance will ignore your AR. But, it is possible to have open adult sex in General regions too, against the TOS, but that won't stop some people. So from this argument, SL should simply not provide any APP at all, in case a minor is shocked by visiting SL in any rated region. There is no way LL could be so stupid as to limit mobile users to only G-rated regions. They might change responsibility to requirement in their privacy TOS, and put the onus on the Residents in Moderate regions to assure no adult sex is ever visible. Then they could ban stubborn residents who apparently want an audience.

You can cam, but if you are in a Moderate region and have explicit sex, then it is your responsibility to turn on privacy for your parcel or region. You can cam, but you can not see anyone. Security orbs can also keep you off that parcel. Adult behaviour in Moderate regions is clearly allowed, even in Bellisseria. So you can not "very easily encounter" explicit sex on Moderate regions. Why do some of you spread the "sex is everywhere now" gospel, when it's just a lie?

That is essentially the same as SL reserves for Adult regions. Nudity is allowed in Moderate regions. Actually Apples' App rating system seems that 12+ would apply to Moderate, and 17+ apply to Adult. General would apply to the "kids section" or under 12. And it is up to the parents to decide what to restrict their children to. I don't see any problem here. Unless you think 11 yr olds are entering SL by using an adults account and mobile phone. That is not SL's problem. This is just a lot of fuss for nothing imo.

I refuse to get sucked into this thread. Listen to this old Steppenwolf song. And here's the same song with beautiful photos (not allowed to be embedded here): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KInCRHOyoBI