Love Zhaoying Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Peeve: A thread about the relationship between a certain kind of identity in RL and how it is perceived in SL, based upon an article (authored by a former Linden) in a SL-centric online source that is specifically about SL, gets shut down by the mods because . . . it's not relevant to SL??? I'm not getting the reasoning here. Maybe there was drama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Maybe there was drama? "it's not directly related to Second Life specifically, and therefore has been locked. If the thread could exist on a non-Second Life Forum, that is probably a good sign it doesn’t belong here." To be clear, I'm not "complaining." But it's becoming difficult to discern what is permitted here. We need consistency. Edited October 13, 2022 by Scylla Rhiadra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Peeve: A thread about the relationship between a certain kind of identity in RL and how it is perceived in SL, based upon an article (authored by a former Linden) in a SL-centric online source that is specifically about SL, gets shut down by the mods because . . . it's not relevant to SL??? I'm not getting the reasoning here. 47 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: "it's not directly related to Second Life specifically, and therefore has been locked. If the thread could exist on a non-Second Life Forum, that is probably a good sign it doesn’t belong here." To be clear, I'm not "complaining." But it's becoming difficult to discern what is permitted here. We need consistency. The article was not specifically concerning Second Life. It was an article concerning "Virtual Worlds" in general. Where it was hosted and who wrote it are considered irrelevant in this case. Not saying I agree with it but that is what appears to be the reasoning and it is consistent: If it is not specifically about Second Life, it is a no go. Meh. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: If the thread could exist on a non-Second Life Forum, that is probably a good sign it doesn’t belong here." The flip side, every thread on this forum could exist on another forum and be on topic. 🤔 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Solar Legion said: The article was not specifically concerning Second Life. It was an article concerning "Virtual Worlds" in general. Where it was hosted and who wrote it are considered irrelevant in this case. Not saying I agree with it but that is what appears to be the reasoning and it is consistent: If it is not specifically about Second Life, it is a no go. Meh. Have you read the article, Solar? It's about 80% the comment of a woman in SL, specifically referencing SL on at least three occasions, and appearing under a photo of an incident that happened in SL. Most of the posts in the thread similarly directly reference SL (as for example my own), or are pretty clearly implicitly about SL. I'm not sure how much more "relevant" it could be. Edited October 13, 2022 by Scylla Rhiadra 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Seemed a pretty clear cut example of a social justice issue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Seemed a pretty clear cut example of a social justice issue. Then that should have been the justification given. It wasn't. We had a thread on a sign in SL that read "R*pe Me" that was permitted -- every bit as much a "social justice" issue as this. It was moved to adult, but is still, I think, open. My understanding, based on how the mods have mostly responded, is that the proscription on "social justice" pertained largely to RL issues: we've actually had a number that have addressed these issues as they are manifested in SL. As this one did. Consistency. Edited October 14, 2022 by Scylla Rhiadra Autocorrect 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Have you read the article, Solar? It's about 80% the comment of a woman in SL, specifically referencing SL on at least three occasions, and appearing under a photo of an incident that happened in SL. Most of the posts in the thread similarly directly reference SL (as for example my own), or are pretty clearly implicitly about SL. I'm not sure how much more "relevant" it could be. When I do a RL pet peeve, I add a 2nd one for a SL pet peeve. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Someone is trying to get a thread closed by talking about moderation rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: Someone is trying to get a thread closed by talking about moderation rules. Yes, Sam. That is what I am trying to do. Oops! You got me! 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Consistency. It's LL. There isn't any. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Today's Pet Peeve" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 We can solve, or at least name, the problem by simply adding a letter to the moderators' title. We can now refer to them as "moods". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Have you read the article, Solar? It's about 80% the comment of a woman in SL, specifically referencing SL on at least three occasions, and appearing under a photo of an incident that happened in SL. Most of the posts in the thread similarly directly reference SL (as for example my own), or are pretty clearly implicitly about SL. I'm not sure how much more "relevant" it could be. I popped it up, skimmed the majority of it. Pictures aside, I may have missed where second Life was named directly ... and it wouldn't be very relevant then either as the article itself is titled in a generic manner. Note, I have already stated I do not agree with the action taken. I am simply giving the apparent reasoning - something which took no more than ten seconds of thought to come to and utterly ignoring any deeper dive as such is not needed for this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Oh well, whatever. Peeve: I had to travel on the subway tonight with a huge crowd of hockey fans just getting out of a game. Maybe a quarter to a third of them were masked. Ugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Peeve: Humans... they're just too weird for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: "it's not directly related to Second Life specifically, and therefore has been locked. If the thread could exist on a non-Second Life Forum, that is probably a good sign it doesn’t belong here." To be clear, I'm not "complaining." But it's becoming difficult to discern what is permitted here. We need consistency. I admit, the reason given was more than a little awkward. I chalked it up to, "Eh, moles are not perfect. There were more comprehensible reasons." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: I admit, the reason given was more than a little awkward. I chalked it up to, "Eh, moles are not perfect. There were more comprehensible reasons." What difference does it make? The moderators made their decision. discussing it won't change it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Oh well, whatever. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: What difference does it make? The moderators made their decision. discussing it won't change it. Exactly! I didn't question it. Just responding to someone who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said: What difference does it make? The moderators made their decision. discussing it won't change it. It's called moving the goalpost. How is one supposed to follow rules when they do that? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 What, y'all have never played Calvinball? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said: What, y'all have never played Calvinball? Peeve: Concept stolen from Charlie Brown! It was a yearly thing since the 1950's with CB and Lucy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 No, Lucy and Charlie Brown had rules. Well, Calvinball has rules too, I guess; it's just that they're never the same from one minute to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Lindal Kidd said: No, Lucy and Charlie Brown had rules. Well, Calvinball has rules too, I guess; it's just that they're never the same from one minute to the next. I think that's the point - and what makes it similar to our discussion here: Rules are set forth, expectations are set, then "Surprise!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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