Coffee Pancake Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Alpha male/female is highly intelligent he/she is fearless Alpha male/female is goal driven He/she is a natural leader Alpha male/female has a magnetic personality he/she is super successful Alpha male/female has great intuitive sense he/she will not allow others to interfere in his life Alpha male/female is always sure to stay ahead in life he/she is not affected by criticisms Alpha male/female is usually unemotional Alpha male/female is dominating Alpha male/female is a fast decision maker he/she knows how to charm a lady he/she rarely admit their mistakes Ok so I rewrote the alpha characteristics to include females. Does that change your opinion somewhat on those characteristics? Do you feel the characteristics are negative when they are applied to a female leader? I noted both you and a few other posters commenting on this, chose to project several of the characteristics to their extremes to take the opportunity to then be critical of them but really, would you want the CEO or other type of leader to be any less then what is listed? Interestingly enough, my perception of your forum persona at least is that of one having many of the qualities listed and seeing that as a good thing, in spite of disagreeing with your viewpoints in many cases. I suppose then being attracted to the opposite, ie beta boi's, would be reasonably natural. Seriously, and you just trying to get this thread locked ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: Today's peeve: Environment friendly toilet paper. Yes, I know we should applaud the hotels that use it because it is good for the environment, is more biodegradable, etc...., but even 2-ply is super thin, so I HATE it. Related Peeve: People not hanging the toilet roll correctly. It always goes OVER, never under. Example is the washrooms in our bar --- the hold only handles the loo rolls in over mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Ayashe Ninetails said: The person described in that chart doesn't even exist. "Always sure to stay ahead in life" - how? How does a person guarantee success at every turn and prevent *everything* bad from ever happening to them? And lol, a person who isn't affected by ANY criticism whatsoever. Or never allows anyone to interfere in his life. Maybe if he lived alone on a private island somewhere. 3 hours ago, PheebyKatz said: Not being affected by criticism isn't a quality of leadership, it's idiocy. Anyone who thinks they're perfect as they are and couldn't improve anything about themselves is a narcissist. And as we've already seen, narcissism is just the other end of the inferiority stick. Where it says not affected by criticism, I take that to mean that such a one is not emotionally affected in a negative way but simply considers whether it is legitimate or not and then changes their behaviour in future if the criticism is valid. That is how personal growth happens, not wallowing in a pool of guilt, shame and remorse. It might look narcisstic to the outsider but if the person changes as a result, it isn't. It is not that an Alpha doesn't have failures but that they see those failures as opportunities for growth and resulting successes down the road, 3 hours ago, Kiera Clutterbuck said: While many of the traits described in the alpha male chart you posted can be desirable there are no traits demonstrating any caring for others, or any qualities needed to join with others and create a beneficial world for others outside his own realm. I see no traits like empathy, the ability to cooperate with others, or an ability to understand one is not always right and so needs to accept a degree of criticism. Sure, he is successful when achieving his personal goals, but at what cost to others? Not all of these types of people have poor self-esteem they are compensating for with pronounced individualism. Some are just excessively self-centered with little empathy for others. Taken to extreme they are called psychopaths. At the website you took your graphic from they list ten problems for women in relationships with alpha males, and list an example of one such male: Powerful Alphas Currently Donald Trump is the classic example of a powerful, dominating alpha male. https://thepleasantpersonality.com/alpha-male/ Pet Peeve: Too many people like this run the world. Well yes, there are many other characteristics which are not included in that list but those as the rest of the article goes on to say, are the ones studies have found to be important for the Leader/Alpha person, whatever gender. I didn't make a judgement whether it was good or bad or whether I was personally attracted to it. Many are however. That is easily seen in many profiles in-world for those looking for a Dom or Domme. And without a doubt, Alpha's are challenging to live and be in relationship with but still beta's overwhelming seek out Alpha's to be with and then complain when they get what they thought they wanted. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said: Related Peeve: People not hanging the toilet roll correctly. It always goes OVER, never under. Example is the washrooms in our bar --- the hold only handles the loo rolls in over mode. Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayashe Ninetails Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Alpha male qualities are different than alpha female qualities because we're female. https://liveboldandbloom.com/06/personality-types/alpha-female-characteristics This is absolutely NOT directed at you Rowan, but I would also add the peeve of blogs/websites/lifestyle mags listing out random characteristics and sorting people into piles based on random traits they may or may not possess. "Virgos say THIS is the best type of man evaaaar" type reporting. Random example from that post - "She doesn’t feel the need to judge others or put them in their place." Okay...somebody, anybody, introduce me to someone who doesn't judge other people. I'll wait! Grr, I'm judging the person who wrote that right now. No ragrets. 😂 Edit: I used the word "random" too many times, and now I'm judging myself! Edited July 1, 2022 by Ayashe Ninetails Judgin' 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. Kittens can unroll both ways. Seen it happen too many times! Then again the same kittens may get destructive on some of your clothes, especially if they find a loose thread and start to deconstruct your favourite dress! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. I just leave it sitting on the end of the bars that the roller would snap into and removed the roller.. Because with boys it's like they are playing wheel of fortune and trying to spin it as hard as they can.. Half the roll ends up on the floor.. hehehe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Arielle Popstar said: Do you feel the characteristics are negative when they are applied to a female leader? Yes. It sounds very self-centered and not empathetic. Me, me, me. Pet peeve: People who are self-centered and not empathetic. Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ceka Cianci said: I just leave it sitting on the end of the bars that the roller would snap into and removed the roller.. Because with boys it's like they are playing wheel of fortune and trying to spin it as hard as they can.. Half the roll ends up on the floor.. hehehe My boy Husky eats the TP roll so I have to put it up where he can't reach. NOT really a pet peeve, but for most people it would be: Removing or moving everything in the house the dogs can mess with or destroy. Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arielle Popstar said: Alpha male/female is highly intelligent he/she is fearless Alpha male/female is goal driven He/she is a natural leader Alpha male/female has a magnetic personality he/she is super successful Alpha male/female has great intuitive sense he/she will not allow others to interfere in his life Alpha male/female is always sure to stay ahead in life he/she is not affected by criticisms Alpha male/female is usually unemotional Alpha male/female is dominating Alpha male/female is a fast decision maker he/she knows how to charm a lady he/she rarely admit their mistakes Ok so I rewrote the alpha characteristics to include females. Does that change your opinion somewhat on those characteristics? Do you feel the characteristics are negative when they are applied to a female leader? I noted both you and a few other posters commenting on this, chose to project several of the characteristics to their extremes to take the opportunity to then be critical of them but really, would you want the CEO or other type of leader to be any less then what is listed? Interestingly enough, my perception of your forum persona at least is that of one having many of the qualities listed and seeing that as a good thing, in spite of disagreeing with your viewpoints in many cases. I suppose then being attracted to the opposite, ie beta boi's, would be reasonably natural. Well, thanks, but I'd never call myself an "alpha" anything. I dislike hierarchies generally, and I really dislike herding people into categories that are about value-judgements rather than merely descriptive. As Rowan noted, part of the problem is that these kinds of categories are almost invariably gendered. It's interesting that the list she provided including the kind of qualities usually associated with women -- consensus-building, for instance -- while this list does not. In that sense, they reinforce gender stereotypes. I think more useful would be a list that featured the "good" qualities from both lists, and suggested they were desirable in anyone. As I suggested in my original response, some of these qualities listed here are, I think, negative ones. Intelligence? Intuition? Fearlessness? Well, yeah, sure, those are good things generally. But I doubt I'd like a woman who was "dominating" or "rarely admits their mistakes" any more than I would a man. Edited July 1, 2022 by Scylla Rhiadra 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: My boy Husky eats the TP roll so I have to put it up where he can't reach. Denying the good pupper dietary fiber ! Guess will just have to make do with slippers and socks now. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Seriously, and you just trying to get this thread locked ? Alphas lock threads better! Pet peeve: Threads that get locked! Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. /me stares aghast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Denying the good pupper dietary fiber ! Guess will just have to make do with slippers and socks now. ..he's 115lb..! Pet peeve: Only outweighing your dog by 20lb Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said: This is absolutely NOT directed at you Rowan, but I would also add the peeve of blogs/websites/lifestyle mags listing out random characteristics and sorting people into piles based on random traits they may or may not possess. "Virgos say THIS is the best type of man evaaaar" type reporting. Random example from that post - "She doesn’t feel the need to judge others or put them in their place." Okay...somebody, anybody, introduce me to someone who doesn't judge other people. I'll wait! Grr, I'm judging the person who wrote that right now. No ragrets. 😂 Edit: I used the word "random" too many times, and now I'm judging myself! The list in my link is about as useful as the male version link. Take it with a grain of salt. Of course people judge others. It's human nature, regardless of your gender. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: 3 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. /me stares aghast ..perhaps is South of the Equator! Polar vortices travel counter, etc.! Pet Peeve: vortices that travel differently depending on your point of view. Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: But I doubt I'd like a woman who was "dominating" or "rarely admits their mistakes" any more than I would a man. Is a B-word, my a-hole "Boss"! Pet peeve: Bosses! Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coffee Pancake said: Unless you have kittens, then it goes under. Always under. For some reason, none of my cats ever played with the t-tissue roll while it was on the roller. They seem to prefer playing in the bathtub as long as no one turns the shower on, with the cardboard tube. Eventually I went to keeping the bathroom door closed or the bedroom door if it's hot. Sorry lil buddy. It's cooler in the rest of the place anyway. Edited July 1, 2022 by Silent Mistwalker keeping 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: ..he's 115lb..! That's way bigger than any huskies I ever seen. The ones I usually ever seen were small ones.. Is there a certain type of Husky that is bigger than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: ..he's 115lb..! Oh crap. I need to lose weight now. I outweigh him by 20 lbs! Edited July 1, 2022 by Silent Mistwalker I can't count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmi Zehetbauer Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: For some reason, none of my cats ever played with the t-tissue roll while it was on the roller. They seem to prefer playing in the bathtub as long as no one turns the shower on, with the cardboard tube. Eventually I went to keeping the bathroom door closed or the bedroom door if it's hot. Sorry lil buddy. It's cooler in the rest of the place anyway. Long time ago me and my man would get these long cardboard tubes (about a meter long) and lean them on a chair from the floor. They were big enough to allow a cat to transit through it and it used to be fun watching our cats run through those and flying out the other end. Like a Kitty Bazooka! Speaking of cats, I remember George Carlin doing a great skit on cats in the early 80s. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayashe Ninetails Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: The list in my link is about as useful as the male version link. Take it with a grain of salt. Of course people judge others. It's human nature, regardless of your gender. Exactly. So now I'm going to judge you for posting it! Lol, just kidding! 😂 No but really, it's the kind of thing I used to read in those teen lifestyle/fashion/beauty mags and roll my eyes at every single time. 27 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Fearlessness? ... I don't like that trait one bit. Fearlessness is how you wind up getting a phone call at 3am that your best friend got mauled by a gorilla during a live taping of Naked and Afraid. If you don't know that show, check it out - it's bonkers. It's not 100% "reality" TV as they do keep medics on standby off-camera and it's hard to imagine they're really out in the middle of nowhere, but it's still pretty bonkers! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Ceka Cianci said: with boys it's like they are playing wheel of fortune and trying to spin it as hard as they can.. Half the roll ends up on the floor.. Aha! Alpha males are kittens! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Oh crap. I need to lose weight now. I outweigh him by 20 lbs! You outweigh me by a couple pounds! Pet Peeve: It's ok..but people don't understand sometimes, and that's a pet peeve! Edited July 2, 2022 by Love Zhaoying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said: Exactly. So now I'm going to judge you for posting it! Lol, just kidding! 😂 No but really, it's the kind of thing I used to read in those teen lifestyle/fashion/beauty mags and roll my eyes at every single time. I don't like that trait one bit. Fearlessness is how you wind up getting a phone call at 3am that your best friend got mauled by a gorilla during a live taping of Naked and Afraid. If you don't know that show, check it out - it's bonkers. It's not 100% "reality" TV as they do keep medics on standby off-camera and it's hard to imagine they're really out in the middle of nowhere, but it's still pretty bonkers! They aren't nearly as far out "in the bush" as they want people to believe. And they do have medivac choppers on call. https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/survivor-medevacs-all-of-the-shows-medical-evacuations/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-et-ryan17-story.html https://www.today.com/popculture/last-secrets-survivor-revealed-2D80554451 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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