Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Hangars Liquides, the most acclaimed cyberpunk city in Sl may close at the end of July 2019. Read Wagner Au article on New World Notes and make yourself heard both on the blog and here to avoid it: https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2019/07/hangars-liquides-cyberpunk-second-life-djehan-kidd.html Edited July 12, 2019 by Lawrence Celestalis 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) It' s already gone .. the islands are still there .. but the sim is lost. Edited July 12, 2019 by TDD123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Knoller Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Oh no!! I wanted to go one last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Too late. The creator minimalised the sim to a basic homestead. Edited July 12, 2019 by TDD123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 sooner or later this is the destiny of any SL sim/parcel/creation... and even avatar, the memories for the ones who were involved will survive. When the owner can't keep it ... it's over. Rarely seen a action succeed where others stand up to keep it alive, they don't have the same drive as the original owner and as soon money and/or a lot of time is involved most volunteers ( with money) hook off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva Knoller Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Yes, so many wonderful places lost to time. Luckily there are amazing places being added every day by creative people. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Evidently this has happened to this sim. The creator/artist has new interests. Shame tho . That place was a work of digital art. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, TDD123 said: It' s already gone .. the islands are still there .. but the sim is lost. No, there was a wrong Slurl in New World Notes Forum, it is still there until the end of July! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, TDD123 said: Evidently this has happened to this sim. The creator/artist has new interests. Shame tho . That place was a work of digital art. No, the sim is still there. The problem is LL avoiding no profits to have rentals. this way Djehan cannot afford keeping the city up anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I didn't go there by SLURL .. i went there by map and searched on hangars liquides .. tp' d there.. and only see small islands and a home of the creator .. nothing else there Edited July 12, 2019 by TDD123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, TDD123 said: Too late. The creator minimalised the sim to a basic homestead. No, there was a wrong Slurl in New World Notes aricle. Hangars Liquides is alive and kicking in the splendour of its five sims and huge beach underneath the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, TDD123 said: I didn't go there by SLURL .. i wnet there by map and searched on hangars liquides .. tp' d there.. and only see small islands and a home of the creator .. nothing else there Contact me inworld and I will give you you a LM. I live in the city and it's all around me now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Wow. Impressive . It' s indeed, luckily still there ! @ http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hangars Liquides/126/132/2227 I will try to help this creator with donation coming week. Perhaps we can save this. I sure hope so and hope others will chime in. If I can save one sim it will be this one ! PS Thank you very much for the thread and the TP Lawrence !! Edited July 12, 2019 by TDD123 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I actually never heard of this place before. I hope for the sake of its fans that it continues, but many a beautiful build has vanished. I have to wonder, if the fans love it so much why aren't they contributing by donations? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The creator paid for sim with rentals .. these are too few now. Would have rented immediately if I' d had known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I'd visit to at least poke around but I do have to ask: Furry/Anthromorph friendly or would I need to swap to a Hybrid (Human Body Kitsune) or Elven form? Not exactly comfortable as a normal (or Cyber Augmented even) human base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Garnet Psaltery said: I actually never heard of this place before. I hope for the sake of its fans that it continues, but many a beautiful build has vanished. I have to wonder, if the fans love it so much why aren't they contributing by donations? I'd never heard of it either but I'm not into the cyberpunk thing. Quote As with countless other beloved sims that have left Second Life, Hangars’ fate was sealed by Linden Lab policies, chief among them the high cost of monthly tier. And that is even though Hangars is owned by a non-profit French media organization of the same name, and qualifies for Linden Lab’s nonprofit discount. “As a cultural nonprofit organization,” Djehan explains, “Second Life has become unsustainable for me. Several months ago, I was told that the new Terms of Service for nonprofits did not permit us to offer rentals anymore; as a result, the city couldn't pay for itself any more.” The fans were contributing by paying for rentals. LL said because nonprofit, rentals are no longer allowed. Without the income from the rentals, the nonprofit can't afford to keep the sims regions open. Depending on donations is folly. It is rare that enough donations are pulled in to 'save' a region and keep it up and running. Edited July 12, 2019 by Selene Gregoire 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayke Newall Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: I'd never heard of it either but I'm not into the cyberpunk thing. The fans were contributing by paying for rentals. LL said because nonprofit, rentals are no longer allowed. Without the income from the rentals, the nonprofit can't afford to keep the sims regions open. Depending on donations is folly. Hmm, this sounds familiar... removing some of the financial viability of a large contributor to Second Life. Is Mark Kingdon back again? 😱 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, TDD123 said: Wow. Impressive . It' s indeed, luckily still there ! @ http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hangars Liquides/126/132/2227 I will try to help this creator with donation coming week. Perhaps we can save this. I sure hope so and hope others will chime in. If I can save one sim it will be this one ! PS Thank you very much for the thread and the TP Lawrence !! my pleasure mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, TDD123 said: The creator paid for sim with rentals .. these are too few now. Would have rented immediately if I' d had known. The problem is that now LL forbids rentals to no profits. Hangars has always had Sl creators, fashion creators and top builders living there. The godfather of cyberpunk William Gibson lived in Hangars for a year, me and Djehan found ourselves in the novel once it was published. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Solar Legion said: I'd visit to at least poke around but I do have to ask: Furry/Anthromorph friendly or would I need to swap to a Hybrid (Human Body Kitsune) or Elven form? Not exactly comfortable as a normal (or Cyber Augmented even) human base. We completely welcome everyone! We have furries coming often from Blue Galaxy. The builder Ash Soyinka also came once to have a meeting with his staff at our Octopus bar. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Celestalis Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Eva Knoller said: Oh no!! I wanted to go one last time. It's still open! Just a wrong Slurl in Wagner Au article on New World notes! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lawrence Celestalis said: We completely welcome everyone! We have furries coming often from Blue Galaxy. The builder Ash Soyinka also came once to have a meeting with his staff at our Octopus bar. Good to know then! Heh, will have to pop in soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Edited July 12, 2019 by TDD123 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 These scenes are gorgeous here. Would be such a shame to wreck this just because of policy. Why not kill off a whole lot of fugly mainland first ? I don' t get that LL just kills all of this off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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