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12 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

The Wright Bros. didn't "invent" the aeroplane, they read about them, and decided to build a giant box kite with a petrol engine, they finally got it to fly a hundred yards or so, barely off the ground, thus claiming the prize for first powered flight, but a few weeks later a Frenchman made a real flight in a petrol driven MONOPLANE, design that made the American job look like a kiddies science fair failure...

And before you ask...

Internal Combustion engines, which made powered flight possible, were European too, people like Otto Benz...
 

And someone in Great Britain wrote incorrect flapdoodle off the top of their head on June 28, 2018 but that was not even close to being the first time that happened.

The first flight in Europe is generally considered to be by Alberto Santos-Dumont in 1906, in what can only be described as a powered orgy of boxkites and which managed to fly for 220 meters, never flying again. The Wright Brothers were flying comparatively controlled circles, etc. in Huffman Prairie in 1904-1905.

You seem to be describing Louis Bleriot's planes, which indeed were direct ancestors of most 20th century aircraft but the Bleriot VII didn't fly until 1907.

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6 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

I hate cricket as much as any rational person who doesn't require mind numbing team games to beat insomnia

Bah, I like cricket. Never mind that Aussies are a bunch of cheating ball tamperers this year, it's still way better then baseball.

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Richard Pearse is the inventor of the first SL-like aeroplane in 1903. A thingy made of RL prims that kinda bunny hopped randomly and sometimes crashed into RL prim hedges and fences

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2 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

The first flight in Europe is generally considered to be by Alberto Santos-Dumont in 1906, in what can only be described as a powered orgy of boxkites and which managed to fly for 220 meters, never flying again. 

Well, the Australian Lawrence Hargrave, did an orgy of box kites better then the silly English and other assorted Europeans creating sufficient lift for him to fly some 16 ft (4.9 m) off the ground in 1893.

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2 hours ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

Baseball!  Yes.  Thank you Abner Doubleday, we don't have to play cricket.

Brilliant! Made me LOL.

Trivia: The very first international cricket match was played between Canada and the U.S. :)

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"Person X" invented "Object Y" is a typical elementary-school oversimplification for just about any complex system. Practical, usable things are usually the result of the work of a number of people over time in collaboration or in competition and building on the work of others. Eventually one person may make something that's considered the defining example of a thing but there's no guarantee that someone we've never heard of couldn't have done the same thing by assembling the same pre-existing chunks of knowledge.

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3 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

"Person X" invented "Object Y" is a typical elementary-school oversimplification for just about any complex system.

nanos gigantum humeris insidentes

(Which is a French concept, not American)

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27 minutes ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

Naw, Al Gore invented the internet.  Don't you remember? 

and them kardashians broke it?

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Alright. So my electric light bulb and aeroplane suggestions have been shot down in flames, but I think the Internet suggestion still stands. Packet-switching is all well and good, but it isn't the Internet :) It's rather like Tim Bernars-Lee(?) inventing the hyperlink. It's said that he invented the Web, but the hyperlink isn't the Web. It's merely something that is used to facilitate the Web - AND BT claimed to have invented the hyperlink earlier, anyway.

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3 minutes ago, Phil Deakins said:

Packet-switching is all well and good, but it isn't the Internet

Hmm. Phil, that statement makes me think of: 

 

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23 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

You seem to be describing Louis Bleriot's planes, which indeed were direct ancestors of most 20th century aircraft but the Bleriot VII didn't fly until 1907.

You seem to have missed Traian Vuia & Jacob Ellehammer, both prior to Alberto Santos-Dumont, but hey...

You also seem to have forgotten Gustave Weißkopf, who emigrated to America, and built a flying machine, there are reputable bodies who credit HIM with the first manned powered flight, not the Wright Bros... But the Smithsonian doesn't have his machine, just the brothers 'Flyer" and they refute the claim, probably because having "the second aircraft to fly" isn't as good a sales pitch to tourists...

;) 

Oh...

"Modern analysis by Professor Fred E. C. Culick and Henry R. Rex (1985) has demonstrated that the 1903 Wright Flyer was so unstable as to be almost unmanageable by anyone but the Wrights, who had trained themselves in the 1902 glider."

Don't gloat too much about "box kites" that only flew a couple of hundred meters... *cough* The Wrong Bros covered 260 m, 3 m  off the ground in a straight line, in what was essentially a canard box kite and then crashed...
 

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Off topic is the best place for this thread, although why we have to be playing national-chest-beating I'm not entirely sure.

We should talk about food.

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38 minutes ago, Phil Deakins said:

Trivia: The very first international cricket match was played between Canada and the U.S

Who won? Is that why America keeps trying to invade Canada? They want their ball back?
 

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30 minutes ago, Cindy Evanier said:

and them kardashians broke it?

Nope, FCC broke it just recently by doing away with Internet Neutrality.

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1 minute ago, CoffeeDujour said:

We should talk about food.

I am having a cheese omelet with toast and a spicy sausage patty at the moment.

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1 hour ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

For the record, I think nationalism is funny in an Archie Bunker kind of way. 

I wish our national anthem was the Liberty Bell March.

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2 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:

We should talk about food.

You tried that already... But you settled on that yellow synthi-rubber spraycan stuff...
 

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Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

I wish our national anthem was the Liberty Bell March.

You know, Canada's sounds like an after thought.

"Oh, Canada."

Yeah, i forgot about them ...

 

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8 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

You seem to have missed Traian Vuia & Jacob Ellehammer, both prior to Alberto Santos-Dumont, but hey...

You also seem to have forgotten Gustave Weißkopf, who emigrated to America, and built a flying machine, there are reputable bodies who credit HIM with the first manned powered flight, not the Wright Bros... But the Smithsonian doesn't have his machine, just the brothers 'Flyer" and they refute the claim, probably because having "the second aircraft to fly" isn't as good a sales pitch to tourists...

;) 

Oh...

"Modern analysis by Professor Fred E. C. Culick and Henry R. Rex (1985) has demonstrated that the 1903 Wright Flyer was so unstable as to be almost unmanageable by anyone but the Wrights, who had trained themselves in the 1902 glider."

Don't gloat too much about "box kites" that only flew a couple of hundred meters... *cough* The Wrong Bros covered 260 m, 3 m  off the ground in a straight line, in what was essentially a canard box kite and then crashed...
 

But by 1905 the Wright Brothers could do controlled flights of 24 1/2 miles.

https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/wright-brothers/online/fly/1905/index.cfm

Traian Vuia: 24 meter flight, 1906 - I probably could fling my reading glasses upon reading flapdoodle farther than that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traian_Vuia

Jacob Ellehammer: 42 meters, tethered, 1906. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellehammer_semi-biplane

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9 minutes ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

For what it's worth, I'm proud of my omelets.  So that's kinda on topic.

 

Little "Om's"? Did not know you were also Hindu!

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