Wilde Guisse Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Mainland waterways have at their core protected land. This enables them to be sailed. But it is difficult to judge where to sail as the rivers are irregular. Sometimes private land stretches out to the middle sometimes almost at the shore.Everyone has a right to ban other residents but when bad lines extend way out into rivers then disaster. Like a fly in a spider web and no fun.Could the powers that be come up with a solution please. My suggestions in no order of anything other than ideas1] water on protected land is a different [darker] blue2] water on protected land has some sort of swift current effect running 3] very edge of private land that's adjacent or under a river has to be at the same height at the river or slightly higher4] Residents who choose to buy river edged land required to put a buoy system in place to mark edge of the r property. Hopefully someone has got a really simple answer to this problem. Basically though why bother with rivers if we can't use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Mertel Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Wilde, I thoroughly agree with your request. There is also a group called the Open Seas Project dedicated to inform and educate SL residents on the importance of keeping waterways free of obstacles. Please see the web site for more information: http://openseasproject.posterous.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBaginski Bearsfoot Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 It's frustrating. Standard ban-lines are visible at close range, if you're in the same region. I've also seen them on abandoned water-only land parcels--at least the LDPW does a got job of sorting that out. Security orbs with a hair-trigger timing are hellish in a vehicle, and I get the impression that Viewer 2 makes the warning less obvious, but that could be down to my general struggle with finding a usable colour scheme. Another possible aid: make parcel boundaries visible at water level. Though that won't always help for the similar awkwardness with roads, where the road surface level is not simply defined. It might be something a TPV could add. I think some of the problems can be partly blamed on ancient history and badly-arranged land parcel boundaries. There's that sea-crossing past ANPR, but getting a boat past Purple is very tricky, especially sailing. Worse, there's no route for watercraft out of the Bay City area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCanessa Oh Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I am currently working on a project to chart waterways, including the parcel-permissions that cover them. Unfortunately, I'm starting in the Blake Sea area and it'll always be a slow and rare process to update inland areas/rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Peccable Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 This problem is exactly why I created this tool. I got tired of crashing all the time too, and it's a great help: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Ban-Line-Parcel-Full-HUD-Essential-for-all-Vehicles-Explorers-and-Landlords/1269113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Mertel Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Thank you for posting about your HUD, Triple. I have added a reference to the MetaLibrary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 3/5/2011 at 6:35 AM, Wilde Guisse said: 1] water on protected land is a different [darker] blue 2] water on protected land has some sort of swift current effect running No and no! Do you really want a virtual world with water criss-crossed by sharp edges separating patches of water with different colors? On 3/5/2011 at 6:35 AM, Wilde Guisse said: 4] Residents who choose to buy river edged land required to put a buoy system in place to mark edge of the r property That's better! I can't imagine LL will ever enforce any such ruoles on mainland of course but for those landowners who want to keep others off their private land water without being jerks, Rubber Bunny sells a complete set of cardinal markers and other standard marker buoys for only 99 L$. Not only do they work as warning to travellers they look seriously cool too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardy Lay Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 3/4/2011 at 11:35 PM, Wilde Guisse said: Basically though why bother with rivers if we can't use them A few of those "rivers" that people DEMAND be sailable were established on private land by the owners. I recently filled mine in completely because of rude, obnoxious demands that I condition it for larger vehicles. Hopefully that's a rare situation. I can't say I had more than TWO people make such demands. Neither were close neighbors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Sweet! Responding to a comment from over 9 years ago! If OP responds, that would be awesome! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said: If OP responds, that would be awesome! Surprisingly (or maybe not), OP hasn't made a single post since opening this thread. Apparently, they weren't too super concerned about this issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Voxel Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: Surprisingly (or maybe not), OP hasn't made a single post since opening this thread. Apparently, they weren't too super concerned about this issue. The funny thing is, it’s still an issue! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beth Macbain said: Sweet! Responding to a comment from over 9 years ago! If OP responds, that would be awesome! Woops! I didn't look at the date before I replied but it was right on top of the list of threads in the forum and marked as unread in my browser. How on earth did that happen??? Edited May 5, 2020 by ChinRey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, ChinRey said: Woops! I responded to it because it was on top of the list and marked as unread. How did that happen??? I don't know but it made me giggle and in the middle of a pandemic, I can use all the giggles I can get, so thank you! 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parhelion Palou Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, ChinRey said: Woops! I didn't look at the date before I replied but it was right on top of the list of threads in the forum and marked as unread in my browser. How on earth did that happen??? There was a post above yours which was removed after your reply. I assume that poster's account is now in the bit bucket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardy Lay Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) @ChinRey, dunno. Maybe it got posted to by a spammer then the spam got scraped off. I fell into the trap too! Thanks anyway! Now I have a cool set of navigational buoys. Edited May 5, 2020 by Ardy Lay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Parhelion Palou said: 7 minutes ago, ChinRey said: Woops! I didn't look at the date before I replied but it was right on top of the list of threads in the forum and marked as unread in my browser. How on earth did that happen??? There was a post above yours which was removed after your reply. I assume that poster's account is now in the bit bucket. Ahhh, this must have been one of the threads that jerk made his post to. LL really needs to full mac-address ban that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Parhelion Palou said: There was a post above yours which was removed after your reply. I assume that poster's account is now in the bit bucket. Ah, that explains it. Thank you! Anyway, as Janet said, it is still an issue so there's no harm in reviving the the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Why got hit by a spammer again last night? How do people find that entertaining? Are they 12 year old boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Beth Macbain said: Why got hit by a spammer again last night? How do people find that entertaining? Are they 12 year old boys? This one made the same post in roughly half dozen threads --- and the post gave a bunch of RL info about someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Evanier Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: This one made the same post in roughly half dozen threads --- and the post gave a bunch of RL info about someone. but interestingly had the same title thread names as the one the previous day in the 2 or 3 OPs they made before they started replying randomly. They did get nuked very quickly today though 👏 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 /me passes the popcorn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardy Lay Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) Kristen Linden may have a thermonuclear corn popper. Edited May 5, 2020 by Ardy Lay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: This one made the same post in roughly half dozen threads --- and the post gave a bunch of RL info about someone. Was it me? The RL information, that is... not the spammer. 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said: Was it me? The RL information, that is... not the spammer. 😜 Nope - I would have messaged you, if it was. Edited May 5, 2020 by LittleMe Jewell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seicher Rae Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) As others have mentioned, there were several old, old posts brought to life by the spammer. Many of them only a page or so long. You know what? As an oldbie I found it grand to reread some of them. There are lots of names and faces I have seen or thought about for years. Then there are the ones that are still here, and that made me grin, too. The spammer is, as they used to say pre-politically correct dats, a poster-child for abortion, but some of the fallout, like these short, old threads, is kinda nice in small doses. @Beth Macbain, aw, I understand completely why you'd be paranoid about being doxxed. When I was being trolled here, there, everywhere (possibly still am, I just don't see it), I worried about that too, because there WAS a direct line from someone I shouldn't have trusted with my info to the trolls. It never happened. I doubt very seriously that you have divulged anything that would get back to your idiots. Edited May 5, 2020 by Seicher Rae 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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