Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 what people in real life think matters more than what people in secon life think better hate in second life than hate in real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 16 wrote: no it doesn't. it generates pages and pages of stuff you search for. you going to all kinds of risqué stuff on any keyword if you don't filter/moderate. is same google and bing image search if you don't filter/moderate on them Not even close. I believe they're still using a stock version of Lucene for Marketplace and haven't bothered with relevance (or have overridden it with some other silly metric) to rank-order the results. This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161488303349 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Charli Infinity wrote: better hate in second life than hate in real life better to not hate at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 I need to go for awhile. If you post I'll respond a bit later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Toxx Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Charli Infinity wrote: because I'm human not an avatar Good! They say admitting it is the first step. Have you ever considered taking the next one? I think it's called 'fixing it'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 the only thing i disagree with is you keep saying the majority of sl prefers this tacky way..just because you see what is on the everything best selling search.. that is where you just are not right.. it's not even close to half.. it may not even be 1/4 that's like saying.. dunkin doughnuts in chicago had a sale... the cream filled long johns went out of stock before any of the other doughnuts did.. so the majority of the world preferes cream filled long johns over all other doughnuts.. the thing is..it doesn't take the majority of the population of sl to put something on the best selling list.. because the majority that does stay in sl for years..does not shop the same..they are a bit more picky.. where newer users to sl that are still trying to understand things and fit in or find themselves.. unless they have friends in here to show them the better places to shop.. they will more than likely get handed an Lm from these places or get a tp from one of the freebie shops or spammed.. going from a default and seeing these other avatars may not seem as tacky to them as what they start out with.. that's why i say..the longer you are in world the more you learn about the nicer things SL has in it.. you won't find it on the best selling of everything page.. you will find it when you learn to use the search and define your search a little better.. that is going to each catagory ..then use best selling and see how much they don't stand out.. some places use cheap tactics to make that best selling everything list.. but they won't stand out in their own catagory... because they are not the majority in their own catagory..they are the minority.. the cheap stuff will always be the best selling.. quality you always have to dig a little deeper to find..this is in just about everything on the planet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161488303349 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Qie Niangao wrote: 16 wrote: no it doesn't. it generates pages and pages of stuff you search for. you going to all kinds of risqué stuff on any keyword if you don't filter/moderate. is same google and bing image search if you don't filter/moderate on them Not even close. I believe they're still using a stock version of Lucene for Marketplace and haven't bothered with relevance (or have overridden it with some other silly metric) to rank-order the results. This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. i dont understand when i read claims about full of slutwear like pages and pages if i want a dress then i go: Search in: Apparel Maturity: General Keywords: dress Sort by: Best Selling Filter: \ Women's \ Women's Dresses \ Casual Dresses (or kind am looking for) Price: however much money i want to spend when i do this then is pages and pages of normal ordinary dresses that i can see in any G rated RL fashion mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Qie Niangao wrote: This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. That's PageRank - all one word It was named after the guy who came up with it - Larry Page - one of the 2 founders of the Google engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 16 wrote: Qie Niangao wrote: 16 wrote: no it doesn't. it generates pages and pages of stuff you search for. you going to all kinds of risqué stuff on any keyword if you don't filter/moderate. is same google and bing image search if you don't filter/moderate on them Not even close. I believe they're still using a stock version of Lucene for Marketplace and haven't bothered with relevance (or have overridden it with some other silly metric) to rank-order the results. This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. i dont understand when i read claims about full of slutwear like pages and pages if i want a dress then i go: Search in: Apparel Maturity: General Keywords: dress Sort by: Best Selling Filter: \ Women's \ Women's Dresses \ Casual Dresses (or kind am looking for) Price: however much money i want to spend when i do this then is pages and pages of normal ordinary dresses that i can see in any G rated RL fashion mag best selling search changes from day to day.. what may be on there today will be different tomorrow.. the majority is in no way jersey shore look.. as you said..what someone wants to stick out will stick out for them.. obvious is obvious.. that's why the best way to shop is by catagory if you are really looking for something.. if someone really was serious about wanting to find out how the majority of people in SL shopped.. they would put a heck of a lot more effort into their research..than just going by the first page of one day on the best selling list hehehehe and it would be a lot more wider of a range than just going off the market place and calling it done.. that's knd of like those research guys that come in here with their interviews and 10 questions..then go and write a whole article about what SL is like.. only the best selling search research way.. takes less time and effort to come to a conclusion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Phil Deakins wrote: Qie Niangao wrote: This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. That's PageRank - all one word It was named after the guy who came up with it - Larry Page - one of the 2 founders of the Google engine. so it's larry page rank LOL look out here comes larry page..he's rank!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161488303349 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ceka Cianci wrote: best selling search changes from day to day.. what may be on there today will be different tomorrow.. yes have noticed that. I like to sort by best selling. firstly and mostly just to see what other people are buying at the moment. I don't use the other sorts much anymore after I set up my filters then just flick thru the pages. when I see something I like then click into the shop and see what else they got. sometimes like quite often end up getting something else instead of the one I first clicked on mostly bc I not want to go somewhere and end up looking at someone else with same outfit on who done same as me same time. lol shame that (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ceka Cianci wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: Qie Niangao wrote: This is the kind of result one would get with Google if Page Rank were never invented. That's PageRank - all one word It was named after the guy who came up with it - Larry Page - one of the 2 founders of the Google engine. so it's larry page rank LOL look out here comes larry page..he's rank!! LOL Yep. People have often assumed that the 'page' in PageRank means ranking pages but, although PageRank does that, the 'page' bit is because Larry Page invented it. It also suits the ranking of pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So if I am getting this all correctly you think Second Life is tacky because 1. People dress in what you consider a tacky manner in order to have 2. virtual sex and 3. you think virtual sex is tacky. So my question is what's tacky about virtual sex? Where did the idea come from that there is something tacky about it? Maybe one of the good things about SL is that it challenges the idea that sex in general is tacky. Outside of a scientifically conducted Survey your assertion that Slex is just for losers who can't get RL sex all you have is a biased opinion with no foundation in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 that's why I posted this on the forum to see if anyone can relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leia36 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Perrie Juran wrote: So if I am getting this all correctly you think Second Life is tacky because 1. People dress in what you consider a tacky manner in order to have 2. virtual sex and 3. you think virtual sex is tacky. So my question is what's tacky about virtual sex? Where did the idea come from that there is something tacky about it? Maybe one of the good things about SL is that it challenges the idea that sex in general is tacky. Outside of a scientifically conducted Survey your assertion that Slex is just for losers who can't get RL sex all you have is a biased opinion with no foundation in reality. ^^^^^^^^^^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Perrie Juran wrote: Outside of a scientifically conducted Survey your assertion that Slex is just for losers who can't get RL sex all you have is a biased opinion with no foundation in reality. No, it's widespread around the internet. Maybe you should have a look at this for a reality check, it's a reddit thread http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/189rbb/second_life_sex_scenethis_is_cringeworthy/. It's quite recent, just a month ago. A bunch of real trolls. Some of the things I would like to point out in their conversation "Well done , you pretended to be a girl and got some cave dweller to **bleep** for you." Some cave dweller is that worse or better than loser? (don't actually answer that) "Yes, in Second Life the people can make their virtual characters engage in various/multiple sexual acts/positions...lol. They can type/voice chat while doing this." This is what they know about second life. All the tacky stuff on the marketplace makes this image seem true. "I was listening to a grown man **bleep** to my virtual character...I think it goes without saying, I'm in." maybe that grown man was you. "I'd imagine. I remember hearing some f*cked up stuff about buying d*cks on SL." my point about the super realistic genitalia on the marketplace and how it looks like from an outside perspective. Before anyone gets so excited or even proud about having sex in SL, keep in mind that that avatar you doing it with could just be a troll from somewhere else and they have a whole thread made just to laugh at how much of a "cave dweller" you are. This is just one recent example. I have seen other conversations on other message boards and comments to know that Second Life does not have a good reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You never heard anyone in RL describe a partner as a "lame F*ck?" Just like there is good and bad in RL, there is good and bad in SL. But one of the reasons this kind of trolling goes on is because of people like you who define Virtual Sex as being something for lame users who can't get any in RL. For every incident like the one you linked to there are dozens others enjoying a wonderful virtual sex life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 I just wanted to show you that these people and opinions do exists since you say my claim has "no foundation in reality" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Charli Infinity wrote: I just wanted to show you that these people and opinions do exists since you say my claim has "no foundation in reality" It was your claim that it was only for losers I was refuting. To the excusion of all the winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Deakins Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Ok, so you managed to point to one source where SL has a reputation for virtual sex. At least a few posts between 2 or 3 people, anyway. I guess that means the whole world thinks of SL as a place that's all about virtual sex Actually, I think SL does have a bit of a reputation for that, but only a bit of one. What you are forgetting, and there's no excuse for forgetting it, is that negative news is far more popular than positive news. It's the 'bad' stuff that gets the headlines and gets talked about far more than 'good' stuff. SL does contain what some people think of as 'bad' stuff, but it mostly contains what everyone thinks of as 'good' stuff. Unfortunately, it's usually the bad stuff in life that gets talked about, and discussions about SL are no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leia36 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Charli You really have no clue do you.. *sighs* OK once more Second life, like real life is what you make of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 I haven't heard any good news about SL in a while. Can you tell me some? this is a real question. I want to know some more positive things that are happening to SL. Is it as dead as what I've heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Levenque Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Wow, that sure does prove your point. You get asked for documentation of your statements regarding how others view SL and you come up with excerpts from Cracked.com and Reddit? Woohoo, that's some pretty serious stuff right there! If you actually consider anything anyone says on those sites to be something that you need to take seriously in your real life decisions, you have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Infinity Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 That's the reputation that goes around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Vought Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Troll harder? :matte-motes-bashful-cute: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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