Drakonadrgora Darkfold

hmm.. as the topic was 'what could we bring to sl' not 'what could ll or another tpv viewer bring to sl'. I think it would be tolerance and acceptance on differing views and opinions. that no one way is the best or true or correct or right or only way for things to be done in sl. towards many of the other things that were said they are all good too; but are sort of off topic, since the topic was what we as users could bring to sl in the new year, not necessary what ll or tpv developers should bring to sl. for if that was the case there are lots of things that could be added, but it would be pointless to list them here since its highly doubtful some of them would be added because unless they were part of the majority wanted features, then it means very little. And face it the forums make up the minority of the players not the majority.

actually both the votes and like count. both can easily be abused and are often in most forums even here by some people. the other problem the votes has is it rearranges the thread based upon the votes making the comments out of order in which they were posted which can affect the stream and how people see or understand what was being said by everyone in the thread. like counts are kind of used as ego strokers by some and by others as means to try and maybe get some people to think they are important or special in the forums, when really they are not. its used as a cliche system of who is part of the in crowd or not and can become intimidating to some when being faced with replies by people with high like counts, and can be a reason why some do not reply back after their thread is invaded by someone with a high like count. reputation systems in general usually bring out the worst in people not the best, this has been seen in lots of places I have been that used them. It shouldn't matter how many likes a person has, or a rank about what they say and if its important or not, or more or less valid on many things. but some like to think it does and want others to think that way too. its a form of mental/psychological/emotional manipulation in a way. on the voting system up votes would be fine if they didnt move the posts, down votes shouldn't be allowed on any post that has 0 votes to begin with or any more when reaching 0. it just becomes a bullying/shaming system then. the lowest score a answer thread should be allowed to have is 0 with no reactions; for that alone lets people see that no one agreed with them. if anything the like count and post count should be made private for only the user to see.

reputation/point systems never work well in forums and never can. they will always be abused by someone in some manner. which is why I sort of think it should be removed from sl forums. and the emoji's should just be an added in reaction to the over post, with no benefit or drawback to them at all all.

I understand what you mean and to me its about the conversation in sl, not the avatar. It doesnt matter if someone is wearing a furry avatar or human or even just being an object like a chair and actually having me sit on them while we talk. Its that conversation that matters to me. I come from the age of text only, then moved into simple 2d chat systems, then early 3d like furcadia, then imvu then second life. so for me its less about how someone looks and more about the chat itself and how they behave and treat me. I have a few close people that have stayed with me through everything. they actually chase me down to discord if I suddenly log off because I am not doing well that day. And a few that sends me messages and waits for me to come back to reply to them. Its these people that make me come back to sl when I do, not the avatar, not the pixels, not the looks, not the sims, not the groups of random people who dont know me or care if I am there or not. That is why I dont really get immersed with sl, other then the chatting. all the rest of sl is just add-on's and not the main reason for me to be here. honestly if I had all my friends on discord or something else, i might not even really have a reason to return most days. the comment you quoted was about how some people are in sl. to them its just a book, when they log out they are closing and putting down that book and moving on with their daily life and not being concerned about the book anymore. for some its like going home from the local club or bar where you were just hanging out with friends. that is why I started out saying that its different things to everyone. there is no right or wrong about why you come here. we each have are own personal reasons for doing so.

I think it really just depends upon each person and what they are seeking or desiring from it. To some its just a movie or book to read and enjoy and relax with and waste time not thinking about the troubles of reality at that time. A means to escape time and reality and responsibilities for a little while. To others its an interpretation of what they wish their real life was a like, a fantasy a dream a desire of what they cannot have or cannot be or cannot do for one reason or another. So they invest a lot of feelings and emotions trying to make it feel as real as possible. For me its about the people behind the avatar, how they act, how they speak, how they behave towards me. I dont care if their avatar is dancing, or laying on a log about to be cut in half. Just like I equally dont care about that character in the book that just died or lost a family member. I know its fake and not real and not happening, just a story made up to entertain and nothing more. Its not that I dont have emotions, I do but I chose how they are affected and by what. not some pixel animated character in an online media source. For as long as there is no tactile interface beyond a keyboard or controller, as long as their is no olfactory interface, no taste interface, no temperature interface.. no neural network interface it will not ever really be truly immersive. imagination is all great and wonderful but it can only take you so far before reality will step in and remind you its all just fake, not real, not important. That there is no real danger of anything happening to you other then your head/heart/emotions being played with if you let them. at the end of the day when you log out, it stops it ends, its over, it doesnt continue, your avatar does not exist, it cant even be seen or interacted with by anyone else. I see the screen before me, I hear the click-clack of me typing on the keys, I watch the letters dance across the screen as I do and stop when I dont. im on the outside looking in, just like when reading a book or watching a movie. Its not happening to me, but to the character within, which is not me.

One cannot ever imply or assume consent is given at any point in time without actual physical written or spoken consent by the other party. Just responding back is not giving consent to what they expressed or said or claimed. Even then that consent can be revoked at any point in time in the future for any reason spoke or unspoken and that person then has to abide by that revocation or face the consequences while here in SL. the disclaimer of the other person via a busy message means nothing; it has no legal grounds to stand on at all. It is a scam a blackmail an or coercion and extortion attempt by those who think they can fool those who are not aware of their rights under the TOS. If they try and use anything you told them you have the full right to report them for breach of TOS. No group or sim or person may take away another persons consent unwillingly by anything they say or state or claim ever. Joining a sim does not give implied or expressed consent. Joining a group does not give implied or expressed consent. responding in an im does not give implied or expressed consent. talking in a group does not give implied or expressed consent, talking in local does not give or imply expressed consent especially if there is only two in local which then does imply partial privacy since no one was around to hear what was said. the TOS though only applies to what is done in SL and on the forums though. They can actually take what ever you say without your permission and share it outside of SL because LL has no jurisdiction on what people do outside of SL. So if they shared it via an email or posted it somewhere else, or on another service there is little you can do about it but make a complaint to the admins of that service and if they would do anything about removing the content or punishing them for their actions. Which not every place will. I have known of several groups and sims and users who have used this before. They are all trying to use the users gullibility and lack of knowledge and fear of asking to find out the truth. Seen lots of groups that say joining this groups gives consent to blah blah blah being done. I have seen sims that make the same claims in their sim rules or covenants. But none of it is true and never was. the only real authority they have is they can kick you from the group or sim and ban you. that is all. If you are ever really concerned, talk with them them add at the end of the conversation, "I hearby revoke my consent of you using or sharing anything that was said beforehand without further consent being asked from me again." then they can no longer claim you gave them consent because you just revoked that consent at the end.

there is really too many to choose from and if they should add points or not or for some people who wish had the power take points to maybe take a poke at the over-sized ego's of those with high point values. Honestly I think only the cup should add a point, none of the others should. the rest should just be reaction emjoi's to show a reaction or feeling about the post.

hmm.. for me there is no real immersion. I know I am not my avatar because my avatar is a furry dragonness and I am not in rl. I know the difference between fantasy and reality in this regards. my avatar is just a sudo vessel for me to interact with people here. Its not alive, it doesn't really have a life or feelings or emotions, they are all mine. I have often blown my avatar up, fried my avatar, grinded up my avatar, microwaved my avatar, drowned my avatar, shocked my avatar, froze my avatar, turned my avatar in to a statue or some other piece of furniture. did I feel like any of those things were happening to me in rl. not at all. Oh lets not forget having my avatar tf'd into dozens of other things and even turned into a rocket with a head on it that then pops and floats back to the ground with attached to a balloon. they are all just other visual expressions and really dont cause any feelings besides mild amusement because I can undo any of the changes, none of them are any more permanent or lasting then I really want them to be.

Oh, I might want to add that there is a new hud out that if you have rlv on, it can allow people to take control over your avatar and talk as you, and all you need is a relay. It basically allows someone to posses your avatar; but this doesn't really sound like that. it sounds more like a follower from an attack/spell/combat aka griefer hud, lots of those on the mp. they can be pernicious to git rid of but it is still possible. And i believe CoolVL does allow you to turn off rlv. its just not a simple click one button setting like in fire storm. some viewers hide it to make it harder to turn off. I will have to install it and check again but if I remember correctly I remember being able to disable rlv in it before.

That might work but it might be laggy on save and load for each chat, depending upon the users connection to the cloud storage service. Using a nas is just a little less laggy since everything should be on the same general network. You can set a nas up to work as a cloud based storage system too if you didnt want to trust a third party storage system to keep your information safe and secure and private.

I live near the Springfield area. Weather here is so random, that you just listen to the news and nod your head and plan for anything or nothing no matter what they said at times. It's been 30ish here today and by later this week if not tomorrow it's supposed to warm back up to the 40s according to the weather, but then again won't know until then really.

You assumed they were using the SL viewer I assumed they might have been using FS, so we both made assumptions and either could be correct. I don't think the SL viewer has it.

Not that hard since you can search by folder name or by item name to find anything in inventory as long as you remembered what it was called. Then just drag the folder where you want. most unpacker scripts will default to the root of inventory.

It sort of depends where you are at in MO now. Some areas still do that. it's snowing right now where I am and by next week it's supposed to be back in the 40-50's for the week. So anything on the ground will pretty much be gone by then.

Make sure you do not have it set in preferences to auto-log-out when afk and that afk timer is set to a really low number.

While there is no auto unpacker for once it's in your inventory, items can have upacker scripts in them, that will auto unpack them and put them in a folder in your inventory when rezzed then delete the rezzed item/box. so you don't have to manually unpack the item yourself. Just rez, lit it unpack and clear up and then your done.

Can it be done simply no. It would require them to trick you to giving them edit rights to your objects or to be added to the sim build rights, being able to delete or move items or add items to the sim. there is no way they can do this on their own. it would require them passing an object to you that might have asked for permissions. so again no, no normal griefer could just do as you are fearing. If you have rez rights enabled on the sim, turn on auto-return and set it low enough that it would clear out any grief attack within a reasonable time 2 hours or less.

Yep that is MO for you, and the funny thing is that might be all gone in just a couple days. The weather here has its own mind and does what it wants when it wants. More so than other places it seems. Sunny one moment, snowing the next, back to sunny later that same day and clear.

the only issue with that is bots would eventually reach that age and then be able to enter the group or region at that point. So even that is just a temp fix at best. and diehard spammers will age bots to get around such methods of keeping them out. In diablo II on pc I used to see spam bots that were leveled up to rank 90 to get past most level restricted games to spam the players of that game.

Question: were you wanting to share the logs between the two computers? Or were you just curious if they were automatically shared between computers? For the latter the answer is no. they would not be shared, since they are stored on two seperate machines not talking with each other by any special means. Toward the former it can be done by various means and is not really hard to set up. You could use a NAS and have both machines set to store the logs in the same folder on the NAS. Of course the NAS would need to be open to the outside world if both machines were not on the same network. You could also probably set up a backup system where it backs up the logs every hour to an online location from both machines. thus you could view the log from either machine online at any time as long as they had successfully completed the backup as scheduled. There might be other ways as well depending upon what you were wanting.

Not my first either, I had my own forum, wiki, blog site, photo sharing site before. And depending upon how the site is made an admin could go in and remove the emoji or adjust the reputation on a post. Just really depends upon how the site is set up what sort of database it uses. if its anything like MySQL or similar it can be done fairly easily by an admin or a mod that has database access.

As a society, many have been brainwashed into needing it because of various social platforms or devices that do it. Like our phones and all the notifcations, we can get from the different apps on it.

Oh, I do that too. I take the side of the devil's advocate just because no one else was. There are always two sides to any situation, even when some don't think or want there to be. it is always good to have feedback on both positive or negative. it keeps us from maybe becoming obsessed with the idea that maybe we are infallible in what we think or feel at times. No one is perfect in this world 100% of the time.

Sometimes it can be fun to take that side to any discussion on any forums. Sometimes it is helpful because it reminds us we are human after all and not machines unless you are me, then most definitely I am just a machine. a biochemical machine but a machine.

I usually won't buy from a creator that has a timeout demo, I'm ok with the boxes and rings and even maybe not being able to click every option in the hud. I usually leave even if it was something I liked and well they just lost a customer. Not going to obsess over one item, when there are so many other places or things to try. Like another poster I want to see how it handles on tp to several locations, does it stay with me and together properly. The only timeout I would even come close to thinking was ok was at least 30 minutes. Then I can tp to my normal places and see how it looks at each one and maybe ask a few people there what they thought about it and if was worth buying or not in their opinion. Less than that is not even worth the time it took to get the demo and put it on.