Zalificent Corvinus Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM 1 minute ago, Vivienne Schell said: not so unsignificant number of bored pre-puberty kids who love to play barbi in 3D Yeah... OH HELL NO. Under 16's not allowed here. also, Worthless Useless non-customer people. "Dad... Can I borrow your credit card to sign up for a $100 a year subscription to a virtual kinky porn simulator game? Yeah I know I'm only 12, but it runs on a smart phone!"" Let's not and say we did, hmm? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:10 PM 13 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Yes. Any "doomed path" EEP and/or PBR relevance? Just asking.. 🙂 My own opinion (until it was limited to "G" regions) has been that "Mobile" will lead Second Life "away from doom". We. Shall. See. Attracting a fair share of Doom players would boost SL into mainstream, for sure. Why lead Second Life away from these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM 8 minutes ago, Extrude Ragu said: SOOO I was at the round table today, and it turns out that android users will be able to access adult regions. Apple users are Tim Cooked though. I find myself for the first time wishing I had an Android phone instead of an iPhone. It's a weird feeling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM 50 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: 1 hour ago, DevlinMcDermott said: factory-built, custom-made Isn't that an oxymoron? Not necessarily, factories take "custom orders". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalificent Corvinus Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM 2 minutes ago, Istelathis said: (I'm sorry, I have a long standing feud with apple products.. I can't help myself . I'll behave now.) "Dear forum, I'm running a $4000 Awful Mac whyLap, and it's performance is terrible, what do you recommend?" "Dear Gullible, sell it for scrap and buy a COMPUTER!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: I find myself for the first time wishing I had an Android phone instead of an iPhone. It will pass ... real quickly. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Mistwood Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM I imagine those struggling right now are pretty upset. SL means a lot to a lot of people. They have friends, businesses, and in some cases they have jobs. I bought myself a used laptop last year. (Theres always some gamerbro that needs the newest computer to brag about every year.) It's a couple years old now but decently powerful since it was designed for good graphics. It's a mid-range laptop today. I didn't need to spend $2000 on a new computer to run SL. If I hadn't upgraded to my new/used computer, I would be in the same boat as some of those posting here. Go to your local used computer shop if you have one and see what they have. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted Tuesday at 11:23 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:23 PM What is up with these doom and gloom, the sky is falling posts on forums lately? It's honestly kinda depressing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 11:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:26 PM 3 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: I imagine those struggling right now are pretty upset. SL means a lot to a lot of people. They have friends, businesses, and in some cases they have jobs. I bought myself a used laptop last year. (Theres always some gamerbro that needs the newest computer to brag about every year.) It's a couple years old now but decently powerful since it was designed for good graphics. It's a mid-range laptop today. I didn't need to spend $2000 on a new computer to run SL. If I hadn't upgraded to my new/used computer, I would be in the same boat as some of those posting here. Go to your local used computer shop if you have one and see what they have. Question is if the most care. Many of them spent and still spend a significant amount of money on SL, anyway. And now the company running the show steps up and shuts the door to them. "Go get a new computer and pay more". That´s not what I call a sane customer relationshiip. And such kind of relationships usually end in a divorce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Tuesday at 11:28 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:28 PM 6 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: I imagine those struggling right now are pretty upset. SL means a lot to a lot of people. They have friends, businesses, and in some cases they have jobs. I bought myself a used laptop last year. (Theres always some gamerbro that needs the newest computer to brag about every year.) It's a couple years old now but decently powerful since it was designed for good graphics. It's a mid-range laptop today. I didn't need to spend $2000 on a new computer to run SL. If I hadn't upgraded to my new/used computer, I would be in the same boat as some of those posting here. Go to your local used computer shop if you have one and see what they have. I admit, I took a real risk getting a new notebook for only $790 last year. But it said "gaming" and was part of the "Acer Nitro" line. It worked out. And, $790 is a heckuva lot less than $2000. So my point is, you can either get lucky, or be smart and choose wisely, or hope one day to afford whatever you want or need, or some combination. Or, you can choose poorly, or with bad luck be stuck with something that doesn't work with Second Life. And every possibility in-between. All we can do is make recommendation, say "what worked for us". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Nagy Posted Tuesday at 11:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:31 PM (edited) 37 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said: No access to a 1/3rd of the grid, no inventory access, etc., etc., Sounds more like an early alpha if it still has so little usability. Edited Tuesday at 11:33 PM by Sid Nagy Small text improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:33 PM Just now, Sid Nagy said: 37 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said: No access to a 1/3rd of the grid, no inventory access, etc., etc., Sounds more than a early alpha if it has still so little usability. What's worse is, it is not clear what the "end goal" is. What WILL be the functionality when "released"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalificent Corvinus Posted Tuesday at 11:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:35 PM 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: What's worse is, it is not clear what the "end goal" is. What WILL be the functionality when "released"? So, another "Sansar" style project, waste a pile of cash designing a broken thing with no clear idea what it's for or who is supposed to want to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 11:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:36 PM 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: What's worse is, it is not clear what the "end goal" is. What WILL be the functionality when "released"? I will be on Steam. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Republic Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM Quote Is Lindenlab choosing a doomed path for SL ? Tell us if the EEP and PBR introduction changed the way you play SL No they're not choose a doomed path. Yes, it's mean significant changes in my pipeline. I also, after 8 years upgraded my PC which made a huge difference. I'm switching entirely to PBR production now firestorm has updated and going forward will only use that material pipeline. Before I'd supply fall-back textures which was a load of extra work I can do without. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:39 PM (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said: What is up with these doom and gloom, the sky is falling posts on forums lately? It's honestly kinda depressing. Well, seems as if the plactic shine of the PBR glorified SL oceans prevented the oversaturated blue sky from falling down, due to the color shock. Edited Tuesday at 11:40 PM by Vivienne Schell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Wednesday at 12:23 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:23 AM 59 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said: What is up with these doom and gloom, the sky is falling posts on forums lately? It's honestly kinda depressing. It's a new kink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:32 AM 2 hours ago, DevlinMcDermott said: I'm completely disgusted. I have a four-month-old factory-built, custom-made Dell and two four-year-old Dells. NONE of them can run PBR! They seem good enough to run Podcasts, stream videos, and even 3d modeling in Blender. But is it not good enough to run Second Life? Really. Before this upgrade, Firestorm was the BEST running viewer for SL in decades, even surpassing the official Second Life one! After being a Second Life resident since 2008,. I'm simply out of luck and have to say goodbye to Second Life. Because I'm not going to fork over another $2,000 just to run SL. Thanks a lot Linden Labs is this how you treat your customer base? It's not a good way to run a business, you know. In my case, a customer who has over the decades forked out thousands of dollars in your virtual world? I simply have to abandon the virtual life and world it took me over a decade to build, not to mention the countless friendships I formed there. I'm sure I'm not the only one given the outcry I'm seeing in the official Second Life forums, Redditt and elsewhere. The only ones that seem to be happy for this PBR seem to be content creators and SL merchants. But haven't they seen how SL has become a virtual 'Dead Mall' since it's heyday back in 2012? And it's about to get a whole lot emptier. Good luck with your shops when there are no more avatars around to buy your bright PBR shiny virtual wares. When all that's left visiting them will be Weeboo Ghost bots and the occasional naked newbie Noobs. Having gotten lost on their way to the seedy Red-Light District of SL. I've said my peace. Goodbye Second Life and Liden Labs, and thanks a lot for abandoning loyal customers. I'm happy about PBR.. Can we have your stuff? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Devin Posted Wednesday at 12:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:36 AM I don't come here unless its important, and as usual you get the forum trolls that have nothing better to do. They discount you cause they don't see you on here, or don't agree with you, which is all fine and dandy, it is what it is. But this here is important, and as far as my experience in SL none of you have a clue, just discount anyone who comes in you haven't seen before as a noob, idiot. Let me tell you something I was Scripting Weapons in the Thick THICK LAG, when you were were trying to figure out the command to get your attachment up(/1 up)!! I've been here since 2006 scripting contributing kicking ass in SL in combat sims, was a sl millionaire multiple times over in 2007 and beyound, so pffft! Now this is Serious 2009 We had 88, 220 – 29th March 2009 at 1:28pm SLT Concurrent Users LL Company Revenue adjusted for inflation was $146,393,862.13 2024 Concurrent Users Maximum: 43, 000 – 48, 000 (average) 2023 LL Revenue is $75,000,000 What Happened? Viewer 2 launched officially (out of beta) on 31st March 2010 This is why I am here in these Forums trying to be heard before we see a income report for 2024/2025 as $37,000,000 This is a MAJOR EVENT, that will effect the game I've been playing in for 16 years and absolutely Love. I love this game, I don't want to see it go under. So discount away numbers don't lie, we are in another major even that could cut this game in half, its very serious. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted Wednesday at 12:43 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:43 AM 6 minutes ago, Jase Devin said: This is why I am here in these Forums trying to be heard before we see a income report for 2024/2025 as $37,000,000 Linden Lab are a privately owned LLC, where are you expecting to see an income report ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Devin Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM 8 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Linden Lab are a privately owned LLC, where are you expecting to see an income report ? Google is everyone's friend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Wednesday at 01:24 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:24 AM 44 minutes ago, Jase Devin said: Let me tell you something I was Scripting Weapons in the Thick THICK LAG, when you were were trying to figure out the command to get your attachment up(/1 up)!! I've been here since 2006 scripting 2024-17= ok, I've been here since 2006 and mostly all I do is script. But do continue. 46 minutes ago, Jase Devin said: 2024 Concurrent Users Maximum: 43, 000 – 48, 000 (average) 2023 LL Revenue is $75,000,000 What Happened? Viewer 2 launched officially (out of beta) on 31st March 2010 This is why I am here in these Forums trying to be heard before we see a income report for 2024/2025 as $37,000,000 LL is a private company. Last I heard, they don't report their revenue. But do go on. 47 minutes ago, Jase Devin said: So discount away numbers don't lie No, but people make up numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Wednesday at 01:25 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:25 AM (edited) 43 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Linden Lab are a privately owned LLC, where are you expecting to see an income report ? They are so imaginative, they imagine Google is their friend, and that Google gives them reports which nobody else has! I wish that I had an imaginary search engine friend that gave ME reports nobody else could see! ETA: Last time I imagined something like that, I was in college and had inhaled some questionable chemicals! Edited Wednesday at 01:28 AM by Love Zhaoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Devin Posted Wednesday at 01:26 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:26 AM Just now, Love Zhaoying said: 2024-17= ok, I've been here since 2006 and mostly all I do is script. But do continue. LL is a private company. Last I heard, they don't report their revenue. But do go on. No, but people make up numbers. Exactly what I was talking about, looks like you have 38.8k posts, you fit the bill perfectly, thanks for contributing like I knew you would. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Kiyori Posted Wednesday at 01:28 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:28 AM Isn't Google currently under fire because their ai thing in the search engine has been making straight up lies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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