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3 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Yes, but you surely wouldn't come to the forums and announce that you had a brothel on your moderate land.   By definition, a brothel does promote sexual conduct and that is not allowed on Moderate.

No, I'd message you privately to see if you were interested.  😁

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4 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

That's very true, rl kids don't join second life and have a kid avatar. The create an adult avatar.

The new rules will keep adults pretending to be kids out of A rated sims,  but won't keep real life kids out of A rated sims.

LOL way to go LL

Better than changing nothing. Age/ID verification is a different story.

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6 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

That's very true, rl kids don't join second life and have a kid avatar. The create an adult avatar.

The new rules will keep adults pretending to be kids out of A rated sims,  but won't keep real life kids out of A rated sims.

LOL way to go LL

Yup .. a child avatar vs a child's avatar.

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1 minute ago, Madi Melodious said:

I was just subjected to adult conversation in a public forum about scripting.    What does the TOS have to say about that?  Do I need to run and flee because I'm a small avatar?

Per forum guidelines:

No Vulgarity, Profanity, and Sexually Explicit Content: Name calling, using profanity/expletives, or any language that is offensive, violent, pornographic, sexually explicit, or containing hate speech will not be tolerated on the Second Life Forums.

No Vulgarity, Profanity, and Sexually Explicit Content: Name calling, using profanity/expletives, or any language that is offensive, violent, pornographic, sexually explicit, or containing hate speech will not be tolerated on the Second Life Forums.

In general... "All content posted on the Second Life Forums must be rated “General” per our Maturity Ratings. Keep in mind, this does not include content posted specifically in the “Adult Content Forum” section."

BTW, I don't see any such recent conversation in the scripting forum or the creation section of Answers..... 😒

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3 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

I was just subjected to adult conversation in a public forum about scripting.    What does the TOS have to say about that?  Do I need to run and flee because I'm a small avatar?

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2 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

Per forum guidelines:

No Vulgarity, Profanity, and Sexually Explicit Content: Name calling, using profanity/expletives, or any language that is offensive, violent, pornographic, sexually explicit, or containing hate speech will not be tolerated on the Second Life Forums.

No Vulgarity, Profanity, and Sexually Explicit Content: Name calling, using profanity/expletives, or any language that is offensive, violent, pornographic, sexually explicit, or containing hate speech will not be tolerated on the Second Life Forums.

In general... "All content posted on the Second Life Forums must be rated “General” per our Maturity Ratings. Keep in mind, this does not include content posted specifically in the “Adult Content Forum” section."

BTW, I don't see any such recent conversation in the scripting forum or the creation section of Answers..... 😒

In the inworld scripting group at 18:04, a little over 10 minutes ago.

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27 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Ahhh - missed that part entirely.

Rereading the person she quoted..what he had was a moderate RP residential area on the ground and the adult stuff up in the sky (not a brothel).  His land was adult.  He was concerned that now his kids couldn't be on the adult land in the moderate section.   He was not promoting any adult activity so he COULD change his estate to Moderate and have a restriction on who can enter the adult section.  

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1 minute ago, Madi Melodious said:

In the inworld scripting group at 18:04, a little over 10 minutes ago.

AFAIK, there are no rules governing speech in world. You could of course submit a documented support case and find out the answer to your question.  My personal guess is that unless it's part of a continued pattern of harassment, there's no violation, but who knows?

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19 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

I was just subjected to adult conversation in a public forum about scripting.    What does the TOS have to say about that?  Do I need to run and flee because I'm a small avatar?

Am I allowed to comment on such subjects?    Or should I just stay quiet and not heard?

Are you IN the forum as a child avatar? No because avatars don't exist outside Second Life. Once you are logged out of Second Life do what you want.

Didn't realize that the meant group in-world, not forum. 

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1 minute ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Ahh - Rules for inworld groups are set by the group owner.

 

Just now, Rolig Loon said:

AFAIK, there are no rules governing speech in world. You could of course submit a documented support case and find out the answer to your question.  My personal guess is that unless it's part of a continued pattern of harassment, there's no violation, but who knows?

My post here was more for sarcasm and a little comedy relief but now that I think about it.  What about it?    If someone posts a question in a moderate group about adult products, am I allowed to even view the code for that or do I have to leave the group?   I'm not talking about a dedicated group for adult products, I'm talking about a moderate, general script group that I have been an active member of for close to a decade.

 

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2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

Are you IN the forum as a child avatar? No because avatars don't exist outside Second Life. Once you are logged out of Second Life do what you want.

The ToS also makes no mention of adult conversations in group chat or any chat for that matter.  I wouldn't know who is a child in a chat either.   I'd take up the issue with a group moderator.

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2 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

 

My post here was more for sarcasm and a little comedy relief but now that I think about it.  What about it?    If someone posts a question in a moderate group about adult products, am I allowed to even view the code for that or do I have to leave the group?   I'm not talking about a dedicated group for adult products, I'm talking about a moderate, general script group that I have been an active member of for close to a decade.

 

Why would you need permission. If you put on an adult avatar you are considered an adult not a child avatar. 

It makes no difference whatsoever. I say don't go around making issues when there are none just because you are peeved about one that affects you.

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11 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

In the inworld scripting group at 18:04, a little over 10 minutes ago.

An inworld group isn´t a public forum. Anyways, do not flee. Tell them to shut up, because it´s your bloody right as child that they do so and that you will not accept the ongoing, outrageous surpression they impose on you by being adults. That will make you legions of friends.

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Just now, Vivienne Schell said:

An inworld group isn´t a public forum. Anyways, do not flee. Tell them to shut up, because it´s your bloody right as child that they do so and that you will not accept the ongoing, outrageous surpression they impose on you by being adults. That will make you legions of friends.

Perhaps if I was a admin or an officer i would do just that?

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well - a lot, maybe most estate sims are adult. (the most I know) A lot of harmless topical beaches. In fact families got their beloved private homes there.

Those sims are not adult because of dungeons, hardcore and violence. Those are labeled A to avoid problems with privacy.

...some child avatars may never find home again.

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8 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

 

My post here was more for sarcasm and a little comedy relief but now that I think about it.  What about it?    If someone posts a question in a moderate group about adult products, am I allowed to even view the code for that or do I have to leave the group?   I'm not talking about a dedicated group for adult products, I'm talking about a moderate, general script group that I have been an active member of for close to a decade.

 

If it's just a group chat, what your avatar looks like makes no difference.  The new rules are about visuals mostly.  No one in that chat, unless.they know you, would have a clue you were a child  avatar.  If it makes you uncomfortable, talk to a.group moderator.  If someone knows you are a child avatar and makes offense or lewd comments directed to you specifically, I'd report that as it's not allowed.

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4 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

 

My post here was more for sarcasm and a little comedy relief but now that I think about it.  What about it?    If someone posts a question in a moderate group about adult products, am I allowed to even view the code for that or do I have to leave the group?   I'm not talking about a dedicated group for adult products, I'm talking about a moderate, general script group that I have been an active member of for close to a decade.

 

Take a look at the the new rules and see what you think https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Clarification_of_policy_disallowing_ageplay

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13 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

AFAIK, there are no rules governing speech in world. You could of course submit a documented support case and find out the answer to your question.  My personal guess is that unless it's part of a continued pattern of harassment, there's no violation, but who knows?

I thought swearing was ARable in a general sim

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2 minutes ago, Juliett Beaumont said:

well - a lot, maybe most estate sims are adult. (the most I know) A lot of harmless topical beaches. In fact families got their beloved private homes there.

Those sims are not adult because of dungeons, hardcore and violence. Those are labeled A to avoid problems with privacy.

...some child avatars may never find home again.

What a tragedy.

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2 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

I thought swearing was ARable in a general sim

I have no idea. On the scale of 1 to 10, that issue ranks about -4 on my list of personal concerns. YMMV

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