Luna Bliss Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) I think they should have a decent selection of clothing available before releasing these new mesh bodies. But then everyone would complain that LL was taking away inworld business if they made the clothes themselves, or playing favorites if they chose an inworld designer. Solution: A contest, where LL would have clothes designers submit an application to be the first clothes designers for the new mesh bodies. Ten would be chosen, and many outfits would be available for purchase when the newbies arrived. Edited July 18, 2023 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Oh, that thread wasn't just my hallucination then...and I wonder why it was nuked. I could tell you the likely reason after reading it but I'd have to kill you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Well, I never logged my main out since I first saw them, so it's still in my library and inventory .. .. And they're full-perm .. Oh um, I told everyone I was working on a new [Furlgrimr] body, right? Nah, I'll be good. Pinky-swear! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) They're no transfer in mine which was a proper full copy made and pasted into my inventory. It's possible those permissions you have are ephemeral Orwar. Edited July 18, 2023 by Gabriele Graves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Orwar said: Oh um, I told everyone I was working on a new [Furlgrimr] body, right? Sounds like an IKEA product name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Emerald Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Oh, that thread wasn't just my hallucination then...and I wonder why it was nuked. Also, what is NUX if these bodies are named Senra? NUX was the project name, like the code name for the next LH is Thousand Island Dressing. Maybe Senra is the company that sponsored the new avatar clothing? like Motown sponsored on of the new HUB regions? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny Bunny Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Solution: A contest, where LL would have clothes designers submit an application to be the first clothes designers for the new mesh bodies. Ten would be chosen, and many outfits would be available for purchase when the newbies arrived. A better solution would be to allow anyone interested to create clothes for it. There's no need for any contests, it should be available for all residents even the "NOOBS". To make clothes for default avatars you didn't even have to go through any application process so it should only be a matter of agreeing to some terms and conditions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathrynLisbeth Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 The bodies don't appear to have separate leg pieces like Ruth 2.0, nor did they appear to have separate faces for the feet. So the 'Fix to wear Heels', is going to be 'Have fun teaching them how one changes to a new body'. A body with either flipper feet or interchangeable legs. Well.... I mean there could be a market to recycle the old old shoes with the built in prim feet? Of course they will need to learn a skin matching HUD. Really though, shouldn't be a problem, right? I think there is a scene in the Movie where Barbie has flat feet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: Maybe Senra is the company that sponsored the new avatar clothing? like Motown sponsored on of the new HUB regions? Almost, but not-quite-close to "Sanrio". IJS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, KathrynLisbeth said: The bodies don't appear to have separate leg pieces like Ruth 2.0, nor did they appear to have separate faces for the feet. So the 'Fix to wear Heels', is going to be 'Have fun teaching them how one changes to a new body'. A body with either flipper feet or interchangeable legs. Well.... I mean there could be a market to recycle the old old shoes with the built in prim feet? Of course they will need to learn a skin matching HUD. Really though, shouldn't be a problem, right? I think there is a scene in the Movie where Barbie has flat feet. Technically someone could create an alpha mask to cut the existing feet to the ankle and then rig new feet to fit there. So it is doable, maybe even cleanly but as I said in an earlier post, they would then have to create the shoe kit for those feet as well as making the feet. A lot of work for what should have been out of the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hunny Bunny said: 45 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Solution: A contest, where LL would have clothes designers submit an application to be the first clothes designers for the new mesh bodies. Ten would be chosen, and many outfits would be available for purchase when the newbies arrived. A better solution would be to allow anyone interested to create clothes for it. There's no need for any contests, it should be available for all residents even the "NOOBS". To make clothes for default avatars you didn't even have to go through any application process so it should only be a matter of agreeing to some terms and conditions. I guess that's kind of what's going on presently. I hope it pans out well but likely there will be numerous problems if they didn't have a 'clothes person' on board. I'm just trying to think of a quick a solution so the clothes might have been ready when the avatars were. I'm imagining there would need to be some integration between the body creators and the clothes creators, and so having a small number of creators to work with could have made that easier. But again, chosen in a way not to make the existing merchants feel they were being left out unnecessarily. ie -- the foot problem we're seeing Edited July 18, 2023 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I think they should have a decent selection of clothing available before releasing these new mesh bodies. But then everyone would complain that LL was taking away inworld business if they made the clothes themselves, or playing favorites if they chose an inworld designer. Solution: A contest, where LL would have clothes designers submit an application to be the first clothes designers for the new mesh bodies. Ten would be chosen, and many outfits would be available for purchase when the newbies arrived. What they should do is require the merchants in the shopping section of the new user area to offer one FREE outfit rigged for the new body. When people DO upgrade, and we know they will, they may head back to a store whose free clothing they liked in order to purchase more. Win/win 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said: What they should do is require the merchants in the shopping section of the new user area to offer one FREE outfit rigged for the new body. When people DO upgrade, and we know they will, they may head back to a store whose free clothing they liked in order to purchase more. Win/win Yes, I like that idea, but I'm trying to undnerstand why the bodies are appearing right now without a decent selection of clothes and also with weird feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Luna Bliss said: Yes, I like that idea, but I'm trying to undnerstand why the bodies are appearing right now without a decent selection of clothes and also with weird feet. It seems to have been a mistake? Since they've disappeared already. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Yeah, just checked. The stuff I actually tried on and that got saved to my inventory is still there, but everything in my Senra library folders is now gone again. “Forward, the Light Brigade!” Was there a man dismayed? Not though the soldier knew Someone had blundered. Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die. Into the valley of Death Rode the six hundred. Oops. What's the rule when acquiring new things before you edit them? MAKE A COPY! 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Zalificent Corvinus said: Basically what you have to do is drag the library folder with the avatar out of the library and onto your avatar inworld, then it copies the folder to your inv and 'wear/replaces' your existing avatar. It's easier to just copy the folder from the Library into Inventory. Been that way for years. A long, long, long, long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: It seems to have been a mistake? Since they've disappeared already. If you make a new alt are they there, do you happen to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathrynLisbeth Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said: Technically someone could create an alpha mask to cut the existing feet to the ankle and then rig new feet to fit there... Doing that would negate having the feet be Bakes on Mesh and grabbing the skin texture from the lower body channel. Edited July 18, 2023 by KathrynLisbeth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I'm wondering if the reason they disappeared the new avatars is because they aren't officially released yet but they needed them available for SLB20 display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casidy Silvercloud Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, Orwar said: .. And they're full-perm .. How 'bout you slide that bad boy this way. I'm sure I have some circa 2009-2010 outdated items I could offer as fine compensation. No one will ever know. How do you feel about plain cubes blessed by jesus himself, or at least some guy that once behaved as though he was jesus reincarnated? Blessed might be a strong word, he swore a lot when I dropped them on him, that counts right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, KathrynLisbeth said: Doing that would negate having the feet be Bakes on Mesh and grabbing the skin texture from the lower body channel. Yes, that is a great point to make. Thanks. It seems that with just a little bit of input from someone this could have been avoided. I wonder why they didn't get Strawberry Linden to review, it's a very obvious oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I'm just trying to think of a quick a solution so the clothes might have been ready when the avatars were. Jamie came with a selection of a couple of mini dresses, a few jeans options, shorts, skirts, tops, jackets and shoes. Not many in each of those categories but I'm fairly certain this was the full selection of clothes were meant to be released with the body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claireschen Hesten Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 When I made the original post NUX/Senra was most definitely fully there with everything in the library logged my mAlt in to try it and it appears to have since been removed. There was definitely actual heads, bodies, outfits etc. in there 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathrynLisbeth Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said: ... It seems that with just a little bit of input from someone this could have been avoided.... it's a very obvious oversight. Just a Guess, but... Something like 'Well we don't want to include all those 'Confusing Technical' features found on the higher end bodies. After all, Female Avatars wanting to wear heels? Who would construe that as a BASIC function? One that could help sell 'Just a Barbie' on the idea to 'Level Up her SL Achievements' and start paying for a Dream House. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Claireschen Hesten said: When I made the original post NUX/Senra was most definitely fully there with everything in the library logged my mAlt in to try it and it appears to have since been removed. There was definitely actual heads, bodies, outfits etc. in there Agreed, I still have the full set as I copied everything under Senra to my inventory. I can easily field questions about what is in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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