Bellisseria is raffling off a racist submarine...???

[Pussycat Catnap]

https://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bellisseria Fairgrounds/186/145/28

I AR'd it, and if I see it inworld I will AR it everytime I see it...

Edited December 29, 2019 by Pussycat Catnap

[Kat Shadow]

You absolutely did the right thing.

[Pussycat Catnap]

https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/community-standards

Intolerance

Linden Lab encourages social interactions between users across multiple countries. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images based on race, ethnicity, gender, religion or sexual orientation is prohibited. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame users or groups are similarly prohibited.   

https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/content-guidelines

Examples of Prohibited Content include:
Cruel or hateful content that could harm, harass, promote or condone violence against, or that is primarily intended to incite hatred of, animals, or individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, nationality, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Pussycat Catnap

[Devin Heartsong]

This is beyond in bad taste. It's nearly 2020, my Belli peeps. Can we NOT do this casually racist stuff please?

[Elora Lunasea]

OMG

AR'D also.  How utterly distasteful. I'm feeling quite angered and outraged this morning as it is and this is adding fuel to my fire.

Thanks for pointing this out. 

[Elora Lunasea]

And if anyone wants to go over and protest count me in. 

 

[Beth Macbain]

Who is putting on this auction? Is it the community group? 

And who made this offensive, vile product? I need to make sure they never get a single linden from me.

[Elora Lunasea]

39 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said:

Who is putting on this auction? Is it the community group? 

And who made this offensive, vile product? I need to make sure they never get a single linden from me.

He seems to be very active in all things Bellisseria. I don't know him at all. But that isn't saying much of course. I'm just surprised that nobody else thought to tell him that it wasn't appropriate. Or maybe I'm not surprised. *sighs* 

Edit: She (not that it matters)

Edited December 29, 2019 by Elora Lunasea

[Elora Lunasea]

Oh wow someone just put a big prim box around it 

[Christhiana]

I don't think it was put there with a racist motive. It was put there by a dutch person who probably doesn't understand what that flag means in america. I cannot remove it but I was able to cover it with a prim and will contact the person who put it there and explain and ask that person to remove it. 

[Beth Macbain]

I just asked her why she was raffling off such a racist item... and suddenly it's gone. Or has a prim box around it like Elora said. 

[Elora Lunasea]

 

Just now, Christhiana said:

I don't think it was put there with a racist motive. It was put there by a dutch person who probably doesn't understand what that flag means in america. I cannot remove it but I was able to cover it with a prim and will contact the person who put it there and explain and ask that person to remove it. 

Thank you!

[Beth Macbain]

If he knows enough about the US to know the Dukes of Hazzard, he should know enough to know that flag is incredibly offensive. 

[Kaylee Romano]

It’s was removed. 

[Christhiana]

1 minute ago, Beth Macbain said:

If he knows enough about the US to know the Dukes of Hazzard, he should know enough to know that flag is incredibly offensive. 

These things are not as well known here as they are in america. There was no racist motive and it has been removed.

[Nika Talaj]

I agree, I find it hard to believe there was any racist intent.  I thought the maker was Italian - the first name translates as "Bee", and the creator's been making vehicles forever, really well respected creator.   They are displaying 3 models of the same vehicle, the other two paint jobs are completely inoffensive.  I'm suspecting that s/he ran across the name "General Bee" somewhere and thought it'd make a cute theme because of their avatar name, perhaps without much awareness of US history. 

There are a few other things being raffled there, including Analyze Dean's immense riverboat.  No idea who the raffle benefits.

The raffle is part of the elaborate "Bellisseria on Ice" event.  On the event website, they thank Patch Linden and Missy Mole for making the event possible.

 

Edited December 29, 2019 by Nika Talaj

[Sylvia Tamalyn]

It seems like someone should have seen that before the public did. Isn't anyone in charge of what is being auctioned? Sheesh.

[DevinKnights84]

wow, people need to breathe seriously, clearly it was part of the general lee paint job. This has already blown way out of proportion. 

[Nika Talaj]

1 minute ago, DevinKnights84 said:

wow, people need to breathe seriously, clearly it was part of the general lee paint job. This has already blown way out of proportion. 

Actually, it is a General Bee paint job ... who wikipedia tells me was also a confederate.  That's important because the name of the vehicle is the SueBee.  The maker is also one of the creators of the great little runabout, the "LittleBee", and as I mentioned, their first name translates to "Bee" in English.

[Elora Lunasea]

1 minute ago, DevinKnights84 said:

wow, people need to breathe seriously, clearly it was part of the general lee paint job. This has already blown way out of proportion. 

Thank you Ms. 8 Posts for clearing that up for all of us.

 

[Beth Macbain]

4 minutes ago, DevinKnights84 said:

wow, people need to breathe seriously, clearly it was part of the general lee paint job. This has already blown way out of proportion. 

No, people need to call out hate symbols when they see them. 

[Kat Shadow]

Intent isn't really the issue. Knowing someone's true intent can be argued about til the cows come home: all we can say with certainty is that it is a recognized symbol of hate and so should be removed. It was and so ... let's move on.

[DevinKnights84]

It doesn't take even 1 post to know when people are overreacting and causing more of a problem than the object itself. but, keep throwing childish fits and attempted insults and gaining post count, doesn't do anything for me. I'm not here for numbers and popularity. also, its funny how everyone attacks this but not the source, everyone continues wearing and using/displaying demonic symbols all over sl, no one does anything about those. hmmm.

[Kat Shadow]

How is anything I said inflammatory? I've actually been trying to keep things objective & factual and l just asked that we move on. It's a hate symbol as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center, that's just plain fact.  Glad the matter was swiftly attended to, tho.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Kitten Kaos

[Sylvia Tamalyn]

7 minutes ago, DevinKnights84 said:

It doesn't take even 1 post to know when people are overreacting and causing more of a problem than the object itself. but, keep throwing childish fits and attempted insults and gaining post count, doesn't do anything for me. I'm not here for numbers and popularity. also, its funny how everyone attacks this but not the source, everyone continues wearing and using/displaying demonic symbols all over sl, no one does anything about those. hmmm.

Objecting to hate symbols is not overreacting, but I do have to wonder why you defend them.