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12 minutes ago, Satsu Faith said:

Thanks! I actually have a Genus head on this account and don't like it. I ended up buying Lelutka Chloe 7 days ago and yesterday bought Catwa Uma. 

This is mistaken. The Genus Project (Beta) head has been updated to include Omega built-in for the last couple months. It does require a one-time use of an Omega System Kit (Buy in-world for 99L as their MP is now marked-up 100% = 200L) - but then it's not needed after that. The Omega supports is *any* omega-applier skin, and all standard Omega make-ups. So there is an instantaneous thousand of skin and makeup options for Genus head.

Many skin creators are also updating their offerings to include Genus head through native appliers, also.

To be clear: This is a reply to inform anyone still with the impression Genus Project head is not Omega compatible and is not an intent to insultingly-debunk what Satsu said. :)

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Ethan Paslong
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creators in SL can price their items as they want. If you don't like that, solution is quite easy : do not buy the product. SL has a free market. You say things should be seperated...huds and

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As the CSR for a major mesh head store, I usually avoid posting in topics like these, that concern pricing etc. My opinion (even before I began work for that store) is that - just like in real life -

Ceka Cianci
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LAQ head for 1500 The hud is 3000 Skins are 990.. = 5400.00 I've demoed every head on the wall when I went and got mine..There is really only a few heads there that I need to buy t

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2 minutes ago, Satsu Faith said:

Thanks! I actually have a Genus head on this account and don't like it. I ended up buying Lelutka Chloe 7 days ago and yesterday bought Catwa Uma. 

Yea,it has it's troubleshoot problems  that are being worked on for the final release,that's for sure..

Out of curiosity can you say what you didn't like about it? I'm always in the group helping people with their heads.. I mean if it is something that can be helped,I'd be more than happy to give it a try..If it is one of the bugs or something else..

I know it's in beta and some things can't be worked out until the final release..

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3 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:

This is mistaken. The Genus Project (Beta) head has been updated to include Omega built-in for the last couple months. It does require a one-time use of an Omega System Kit (Buy in-world for 99L as their MP is now marked-up 100% = 200L) - but then it's not needed after that. The Omega supports is *any* omega-applier skin, and all standard Omega make-ups. So there is an instantaneous thousand of skin and makeup options for Genus head.

Many skin creators are also updating their offerings to include Genus head through native appliers, also.

To be clear: This is a reply to inform anyone still with the impression Genus Project head is not Omega compatible and is not an intent to insultingly-debunk what Satsu said. :)

I was actually referring her to the Genus demo which doesn't have omega.. If she hadn't tried it already..But She has the beta herself..

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2 hours ago, Ceka Cianci said:

Out of curiosity can you say what you didn't like about it? I'm always in the group helping people with their heads.. I mean if it is something that can be helped,I'd be more than happy to give it a try..If it is one of the bugs or something else..

I know it's in beta and some things can't be worked out until the final release..

I didn't like the way the hud was made though to be fair, I dont like the hud from Catwa either. I love my animation addons and the ones I have, doesn't work on the Genus head. Lastly, the skins I tried from the skin creators I like the most, didn't look good with the shape I made. I might try the head again later but for now, I love Lelutka and Catwa more.

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29 minutes ago, Satsu Faith said:

I didn't like the way the hud was made though to be fair, I dont like the hud from Catwa either. I love my animation addons and the ones I have, doesn't work on the Genus head. Lastly, the skins I tried from the skin creators I like the most, didn't look good with the shape I made. I might try the head again later but for now, I love Lelutka and Catwa more.

I just figured I would ask, just in case it was something that could be fixed or troubleshot..

Lelutka and Catwa do make some nice heads and have lots of the creators support behind,That's for sure. :)

 

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On 9/22/2018 at 10:50 PM, eretyd said:

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[1] Animation HUD and bento heads should be separated.

[2] ...the creators clearly overpriced their products.

[3] ...LAQ. ... Now the head costs only 1500L and the HUD is sold separately for 3000L.

[4] ...to buy another one is not profitable [economical], you overpay for the same HUD and animation to each head.

[5] ...only interested in profit...

[1] One should not 'should' on others... a self defeating/contradicting statement but it well expresses the idea. 'Should' is a matter of us placing our opinions on others. It is the foundation of fascist thinking.

[2] Well, that is your opinion. In the free market a merchant sets a price and people are free to purchase or not. If the product does not sell, the price comes down or leaves the marketplace. The socialist idea is the central authority will set the price. The history of such price fixing is that it always results in a lack of the product and similar products, which then the state forces someone to make... a form of slavery.

Since the heads are selling, some number of people think prices are acceptable, worthy.

[3] I think LAQ has hit on a great marketing idea. I haven't seen an LAQ head I want much less two. So, it hasn't drawn me in yet. Still I think it is a good idea. I just prefer the look of my GA.EG head and was OK with the price. Cheaper would have been nicer. I don't really know what the designer is earning. What was the hourly rate they earned from the head? Do you know what any of the designers you are thinking of earn per hour of effort? IF not, how to you know they charge too much?

[4] See #2. That is your opinion, to which you are entitled. I disagree.

[5] Did they tell you this or are you projecting/suspecting and stating your opinion as a fact? 

Merchants are usually looking to build a business and that requires repeat customers. A good business person wants to get as much as they can for their effort. Just as you want to get as much stuff for your L$ as you can. They and you are doing the same thing from different viewpoints. This is the part of human nature that makes the free market fair and efficient beyond anything a dictatorial bureaucracy can do. The free market is based on the base principal of my knowing what is best for me.

Can we change the marketplace? Can we get others to adopt the LAQ model? Our most influential tool in this regard is our L$. Buy what you support. That is not guaranteed to change the world. But, short of a gun it is the most effective tool the world has seen.

The free market caters to free people exercising their choice. All else is regressive thinking.

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20 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

..but..but..you said “should not”..so you “should-ed”..

 

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But it was an "unshould" not a full "should," so even though she should-ed it was a good should, not a bad should and good shoulds should be okay. OMG, I should-ed. :(

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17 hours ago, Nalates Urriah said:

[1] One should not 'should' on others... a self defeating/contradicting statement but it well expresses the idea. 'Should' is a matter of us placing our opinions on others. It is the foundation of fascist thinking.

Oh get off your high horse, it was just a suggestion, no one wants to hear this pseudo-intellectual nonsense.

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20 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:
20 hours ago, Nalates Urriah said:

One should not 'should' on others

..but..but..you said “should not”..so you “should-ed”..

The McMasters way to handle this would be something like...

It's been my experience that "shoulding" on others does not end well.

I am nefarious of course, so it's possible that my personal experience has been quite the opposite, perhaps because my "shoulding" is undetectable.

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15 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said:

It's been my experience that "shoulding" on others does not end well.

Was reflecting on the similarity between “should” and “shoulder”. Perhaps, “the only ‘should’ is for you to rest upon my ‘shoulders’.” As a comfort saying.

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On 9/23/2018 at 12:27 PM, Ceka Cianci said:

LAQ head for 1500

The hud is 3000

Skins are 990..

= 5400.00

 

And if I want second or third head I pay only 1500. Not 5000 again.

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Nice necro...

I do not think it makes as big a difference, most of us have one head and one HUD. There are some folks who own many heads and many expression HUDs but let's be honest: those are the minority. Casual users - who are the bulk of SL - will only buy one each or both in a bundle. They will not even bother if there is a 3rd party expression HUD that will also animate their heads.

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56 minutes ago, Fionalein said:

Nice necro...

I do not think it makes as big a difference, most of us have one head and one HUD. There are some folks who own many heads and many expression HUDs but let's be honest: those are the minority. Casual users - who are the bulk of SL - will only buy one each or both in a bundle. They will not even bother if there is a 3rd party expression HUD that will also animate their heads.

And your basis on assuming this is?

You'd think that would be the case but that doesn't seem to be what's going on either in the posts in this section or in the group chats I hear. Looking at those posts, it seems buying one mesh head just primes the pump to buy more.

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1 hour ago, eretyd said:

 

And if I want second or third head I pay only 1500. Not 5000 again.

If i could tell the difference between them i would agree..but the changes are so slight that i can get the same look from slider tweaks rather than paying another 1500.. l got all the demos from there.. the heads are not that much different from each other..

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30 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

And your basis on assuming this is?

 You'd think that would be the case but that doesn't seem to be what's going on either in the posts in this section or in the group chats I hear. Looking at those posts, it seems buying one mesh head just primes the pump to buy more.

It never occured to you that the folks on the Forums are not the average either?

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