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Try asking in the in-world RLV group. They do stuff like that.

Oh, that's nice. What's the land impact?

It's possible to work around bad roads with good vehicle design. Murasaki's dune buggy. The translucent red is an invisible prim able to slide over obstacles as high as the wheels. It looks good doing it, too, because the wheels have a simulated suspension; they move up and down to maintain ground contact. One of the better off-road vehicles in SL. Murasaki's shop is in Burns on Robin Loop, and there's a demo rezzer, so those vehicles get run on Robin Loop frequently. Murasaki's motorcycle. Now this is clever. A motorcycle doesn't have a wide base, so you can't give it a boat-hull transparent prim. This vehicle rides on two knife-edged convex prims along the vehicle centerline. Note how the front one doesn't follow the wheel. The curve radius of that invisible prim is maybe 2m, or about 4x the wheel radius. It's like having a giant front wheel which can easily get over small obstacles. It's totally unstable in roll from a pure physics perspective, but the SL physics system's vehicle settings force it to stay upright. Most SL vehicles have a much less sophisticated ground contact model. This is good engineering. Both of these vehicles are much better behaved on rough roads than most SL vehicles. They'll all cruise Robin Loop at speed with no problems.

Another minor issue on Robin Loop - rocks in the road. Lida (212,244). Those green rocks in the road are a Linden "Undergrowth" object, and they're solid. Hit them and go flying. The cobblestones, moss, and grass are just decorative, but those few rocks are solid, like the ones at the side of the road. I notice road problems because my "quixotic" effort to improve region crossings has been quite successful. My bikes go straight when they're supposed to, including across region boundaries. When they don't, there's a road problem. I'm running a modified viewer with my region crossing fixes (now in Firestorm development version 5.0.12.53149, coming soon to a beta version) and a bike with some scripting to keep the camera aligned through fast region crossings. No more "rubber banding". No more strange twisting into the ground or flying into the air at region crossings. No more camera getting out of line with the bike. I no longer experience most of the problems other SL users have at region crossings. I can just ride fast. It's relaxing when things don't go nuts at every region crossing. Despite what some people have said, SL is perfectly capable of supporting fast movement. There are just some bugs that had to be fixed.

Oh, that's a nice sim for testing vehicles. The paved track has no region crossings, but the off-road track has lots of them. I need a dirt bike with my own scripts. I've been riding a chopper-type bike around the dirt bike track, which looks wrong and handles badly.

Robin Loop clearly had a lot of Linden and mole effort put into making the road work well. Every region crossing has a patch to prevent sinking. The ones for ordinary region crossings seem to be OK. The loop has three double region crossings. All three are a little off, enough to kick light vehicles around. Here are the other two. Neumogen (8,246). Four-region intersection just left of the road Just enough of a bump in the patch prims to knock a bike a little off course. Oslar (15,249). This four-way region crossing has some very thin patch prims. The patch prims are both thin and not all in the same plane, so getting caught between them, or with them inside an avatar or vehicle, is possible. Then you're stuck in the ground. Virtual worlds do need occasional pothole repair. (I look at this so closely because I'm debugging various region crossing fixes. Some are in the viewer, some are in the bike, and some are in an attachment. When something goes wrong, I have to figure out exactly what happened, because it may be a bug in my own code.)

I don't worry about it too much. I've had one jerk, but that's life. My parcel in Vallone has a cafe and a bike workshop, obviously public. I don't have a residence in SL, just an office.

Kimika Ying's office in New Babbage. This is part of her workshop, which has working engines and machine tools. One of the best builders in New Babbage.

Here's my office in Second Life. That's where I do scripting and vehicle work.

If you're a paid member, you can send in a support ticket and ask that an abandoned parcel be auctioned off. I've done that and bought a parcel. That's probably where most of the abandoned parcel auctions come from, which implies someone wanted that parcel.

Gazebo/ROS, the robotics simulator, and my own system from the 1990s, Falling Bodies.

Yes, that's it. I'd been looking in wireframe, and they don't show there when "highlight transparent" is not on. Some mole was trying to patch the region crossing, but they didn't get it right. One of my planned projects is to build an inspection truck which drives around and finds road problems like this. Then make it self-driving and log the results to a database.

There's something strange at the point where Robin Loop crosses from Juanita to Grote. Vehicles get knocked off the road at the region crossing. There are some nearby encroachments involving a private parking lot, but I can't see the problem even in wireframe mode. Go to http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Juanita/150/15/85 and head southeast in the left lane of Robin Loop to see this. This may be new; I ride around Robin Loop regularly and haven't hit this before. I've tried different motorcycles and Firestorm versions, and it's the same every time. Logging out doesn't affect it. Even moving at very slow speed, the problem appears. It's a small bump, not a solid wall; going fast enough will get through it. That's the reverse of most region crossing problems. Sinking at a region crossing is a general problem and well understood, but this is something else. The last time I hit something like this, someone had put an invisible prim across a road.

That's throttled, but the throttle level is high: "All object IM's are throttled at a maximum of 2500 per 30mins, per owner, per region in a rolling window. this includes IM's sent after the throttle is in place". Maybe that level should be much lower. Or there should be also be a limit of the number of unique destinations per minute. New avatars might start out with a limit of maybe 3 destinations in 30 seconds, and that increases with avatar age and/or paid account. It should decrease with the number of people who block that sender.

Do you use only organic prims?

The advertising photo shows more water space between parcels than the seller provided.

That's useful. If you're authorized to query "Top Scripts", that should tell you where to look.

Wh Not so isolated. Ah, real estate ads.

Far too much script time being used there. Less than half the scripts finished during that time step. Not much network traffic. What's the location? SL needs a performance tool which shows which scripts on a sim or parcel are using the most time.

More technical stuff. I commented previously that network lag can cause region crossing failures. I now have more precise tests for that. Network lag of 1000ms (1 second, lag meter turns red) will produce a quick fail at a double region crossing. It may take a few tries, but a few minutes of driving in a circle around a 4-way region crossing seems to trigger it consistently. Even in an empty sandbox. I'm on Linux (Ubuntu 16.04LTS), and Linux has a command for introducing network lag for test purposes. The shell command sudo tc qdisc add dev eth0 root netem delay 1000ms adds 1000ms of delay to every packet, and the next double region crossing on a vehicle fails quickly. Even in a quiet sandbox. Failure means the avatar ends up in the air, can't unsit, and the next teleport produces locations such as "Vallone (-156721, -71944, 100)" You turn this mode off with sudo tc qdisc del dev eth0 root which stops the lag, and region crossings start working again. It takes a lot of lag to trigger this. 500ms (viewer network lag meter goes yellow) won't do it, but 1000ms (network lag meter goes red) will. Most SL functions can tolerate a 1000ms lag; they just become sluggish. But not region crossings. This is pure packet delay. No packet loss, no reordering. I've tried forcing packet re-ordering; that doesn't seem to cause trouble. Basic SL operations still work with 1000ms delay; you can walk around, but it will take a second or two for any response to controls. Avatar-alone region crossings still work. But not double region crossings with vehicles. In regular usage, a 1000ms delay is unusual but possible during moments of high network load. If you watch the viewer's network load meter, you may see it flash red occasionally, especially on slow connections. If one of those slow network moments happens to coincide with a double vehicle region crossing, you're toast. I'm trying to diagnose the problem well enough that LL can fix it. Their resources are limited, they admit. This bug has been outstanding for years because it was hard to reproduce. Now it's easy to reproduce in a controlled test situation. This makes it a repeatable, testable bug. Such bugs are fixable.

I've seen encroachments into roads, but not often. I've seen Linden roads that encroach on private land. The latter is really annoying when the private land has a ban line. You can lose a vehicle while on a Linden road with a guard rail. A common encroachment in Kama City is to fill in the 4m x 8m hole at each corner of each intersection. The buyable parcels don't include that, probably so that the buyable areas are multiples of 512 m^2.. Sometimes the moles put a big flower box or a tree there, but often it's just bare ground. The ground is lower than the sidewalks, so something is needed to bring it up to sidewalk level. Just extending a pavement slab is most common, but I've seen landscaping, big rocks, and a fountain used as space fillers. The most impressive encroachment I've seen is one waterside owner who put an entire reef with a lighthouse off the edge of the world. Well off the edge of the world - 20-30 meters. It's off one of those beachfronts which goes right up to the edge of the world. The result looks like a good boating channel, but it's not traversable. Overrunning your parcel with a building is kind of tacky.

Is "LIFE Properties", which holds a huge amount of land full of placeholder buildings, separate from Linden Labs? Or is it just a name Linden Labs uses for real estate?

I could see that for the SLRR, with microwave relay towers at each sim boundary along the right of way. Railroads once did that. It would be amusing if someone set up a system of cell towers in SL, allowing grid-wide in-world communications for a small monthly service charge. No service to islands, though.

Yes, I just looked. Half that road allows object entry, and the other half doesn't. Kama City's road construction is strange. A region crossing in the center of every street, of course. Even stranger is how intersections are put together. Try de-rendering one layer by layer. There are three circular translucent objects below pavement level which cross region boundaries but don't seem to do anything. It's not clear whether someone was trying to fix the "sinking into the ground" problem incorrectly, or had something else in mind.

Using RLV/RLVa for this is essentially stupid... many of SL's inhabitants do not use either, and many do not use a viewer that supports either. SMART thing would be to use EXPERIENCE code, which can sit an avatar without RLV, even in the Official SL Inferiority Viewer. Only on land enabled for that experience. There are some LL-sponsored grid-wide experiences, but LL had to enable that. In the early stages of this, RLV seems to be the way to go. Or having the avatar wear an attachment which uses llTeleportAgent. Why the hell are you using llShout? You should be using llRegionSayTo, which isn't range limited, and runs fractionally faster too ( no range checks to execute). llRegionSayTo is limited to the current region. llShout can cross a region boundary. This problem always involves at least two regions, obviously. Actually, a prim vehicle entering a parcel is considered to be "object entry" regardless of it having an avatar sat on it, it's a common cause of vehicle failure, you are flying along, you cross a parcel boundary, but your vehicle can't get in and you go through the windscreen or over the handlebars... Hehehe... A few places are set up to have this problem. Go to sandbox Bricker. This is a four-sim Linden sandbox. (Adult, paid, usually empty) Rez a vehicle. Drive it across a region boundary. Get out of the vehicle. The vehicle will disappear and be auto-returned. If you get out in the original region, the vehicle stays around. Sandbox Bricker. Object entry for Everyone is OFF. But Build for everyone is ON. Vehicle disappears after crossing a region boundary and driver gets off. This is an unusual permission combination. Sandbox Astutula (General, non-paid. 4 regions). Object entry for everyone is ON. Vehicle stays around after crossing a region boundary and driver gets off. That's reasonable for a sandbox. Roads are usually Build OFF, Object entry ON, which doesn't create this problem. It's mostly a limitation of that particular sandbox. It may be for griefing protection. Another reason NOT to use RLV, the need for an extra attachment. And let's not even start on the fact that some people will ALREADY be wearing a relay and there will be conflicts. That's what channels are for. (Does this person even program?)