Aishagain

Well, quite frankly I do NOT believe that LL knew WHAT they needed to fix! Assuming that they DID change something other than the RC channel code, why did they roll it back? The fact that they took two attempts to address the bake system failure suggests that the first fix (one of my avatars was fine before the fix was applied yet did not bake after, while one WAS fixed), didn't really FIX anything. The rollback sounds like "well, that didn't work so let's just put the old code back and see what happens" . If they DID change something else, why didn't they just say so, rather than just saying how sorry they were. This all sounds like running around in ever decreasing circles. NOT something I want to hear from the outfit that runs SL.

There's only one way I can sum up today in SL: "What a mess". I am bound to marvel at how a change of code to a relatively small portion of the Grid could have so affected grid-wide Bake services. Perhaps LL will enlighten us via a Blogpost once they have sorted it out.

@Willow Wilder:what? Are you telling me i need a facelift or something?? The cheek! (At my age there are several parts that need uplift actually.)

@RowanMinx:I watched that from beginning to end and ...OK, it informs me better to some extent (I knew the services uplift had largely been completed), I guess they're a bit busy getting it done by the year end. It did not tell me anything about actually uplifting regions, nor when that was going to occur, though obviously it WAS going to occur at some point. I guess Whirly's point is that that IS happening now, and I remain as ignorant of that process as I was before. Possibly connected to that I was glideing last night and region crossings were really good (other than the two second or so freeze at each crossing) until at one region border the glider stuck fast. I got some message about some object owmed by the pilot wanting to control my viewer and almost immediately after SL booted me out via the grayscale picture. I relogged back at home and so far the glider has not been returned to the pilot. who was simply dumped at the border of the region we were leaving, still logged in. Anyway I will shut up and await the notice from LL operations telling us that the move is done, I guess.

@Whirly Fizzle No I was not aware of this (should I have been, I saw no info about this) but yes it would make sense. I must admit I "suspected" that something of the sort was going on but I knew not what.

This is the second week running that nothing in the way of new code has made it through QA to the RC channels. I have to wonder if anything is actually going into QA at all. Assuming the latter, what on earth are you guys up to...there are many things that are in need of solutions not the least those outstanding issues reported on the GSP. Would anyone at LL care to enlighten us?

Oh my how I truly hate those odd character names.it gives me a headache just trying to work out someone's name!

*coughs* "Cloud" *coughs*

@JoyofRLC Acker: Since there was no code deployed to the RC channels last week, announced by Maestro, there WAS nothing to deploy to Main Server this week. It seems to be the Linden Lab standard procedure not to announce details of the rolls until early in the day of the Roll, my local time (GMT). So if there's nothing going to Main the announcement is not usually made until Wednesday (ie RC channel day) morning my time.

@Prokofy Neva:Prok, I've been following your tussle with Linden Lab since 2008. Did it ever occur to you that you have irritated LL so much that they really ARE messing with you? Nearly all your gripes over the years have been down to your odd local system configuration or ISP maladies.

@Wulfie Reanimator OK ok fair enough, maybe I took the wrong tack. I didn't mean that changes can't be good!

I see Whirly so the folk that make the rules for others to follow cannot break them..what a good game! AdminGirl, thankyou there are none so blind as those who need new specs!

I am puzzled as to why I am no longer able edit my own posts. Has something changed on the Fora?

@MollymewsI wasn't dissing EEP, it's pretty good at some things though others look utter cr*p. No...I refer to the fact that releaseing EEP that was available to only a portion of the grid population broke the "shared experience" rules, which LL used to beat on some TPVs. I do however remember that the introduction of Windlight rendered my less that 6 month old PC obsolete at a stroke for SL (or.to be fair its GPU).

@Profaitchikenz Haiku: I guess you are referring to the LL mantra of "Shared Experience", which they recently blew out of the water with the EEP farrago.

@Jackson Redstar: Re BoM... imagine you would prefer to wear your pants inside your trousers...or maybe you ARE Superman...THAT is the why BoM.

@davidventer: Well, you tell me that it is Vulkan not Metal that is buggy, with regard to Windows OS, Metal is....problematic at the least. True, Vulkan has issues as well, which rather reinforces my point...moving from one set of bugs to another simply makes no sense whatsoever. Your point re other gaming applications is valid and many of us have been quietly (and not so quietly) suggesting to LL that "a change gonna come"... it seems to have little impact, for the perfectly valid, if irritating reasons I mentioned.

@davidventer: In the face of such stalwart negativity I am tempted to dismiss your remarks as largely irrelevant. However: 1) Replacing OpenGL, with either Vulkan or Metal, while desirable from certain viewpoints, is impractical due to the underlying code structure of SL. While it IS possible it is by no means simple. Besides although Vulkan is largely bug-free Metal most assuredly is NOT. Several of your other points are currently being addressed by LL.

A rare thing....I am NOT confused about this! Regions will only be restrated if tey have been running for more than 10 days on Tuesday or Wednesday, otherwise restarts might be triggered by Estate Managers...seems straightforward even to me!

@Gem Oxygen You are certainly one of many that would like this issue to be dealt with prompty. However, it is NOT straightforward and if you look on the Grid Status Page you will see that LL ARE working on it. Beyond that rather bald statement we have no further information, as far as I know, but the fix will not be quick to come, I'm guessing.

D'oh! There are two possibilities. 1) I have lost it. 2) For some odd reason Maestro's post did not appear for me. Actually there is a third. I simply did not see the post. Whatever, Mea Culpa, Mea maxima culpa.

No news yet...again. OK, we know what has been rolled to Main Server, if we've had our rolls, but why the silence yet again? And what of the RC channels tomorrow?

OK...that's strange it all works for me. I wonder what all you guys have in common...I'm accessing SL from the UK....except when using that first link that Arabella posted.

@RowanMinx No worries SL never ceases to surprise us all with its foibles! Now, how do I get this bee out of my bonnet?

@RowanMinx Frankly yes, you are. The Bot mentioned by Grumpity (sorry Willow my memory is not what it wa) was supposedly fixed. There has certainly been a change since the 10th day restarts no longer occur but they have for some on the Tuesday AFTER the tenth day, if there is no general Roll. No, it isn't a big deal and I can and will do it since I have estate mamger rights on my own region.(which I DID say). My point was simply that it has been going on for some time and I decided to have a whinge. So, no need to condescend, it'll be over and done tomorrow! 😉