Janet Voxel

I don’t think it can be said enough on this forum. The “cause I say so” culture is pretty strong on here.

Yeah, but you’re assigning worth to something in a way that is a little arbitrary. From the amount of shapes on the market, there’s a market. SL is a free market economy, not a “cause I say so economy”. If people didn’t think those “high” prices for shapes were unreasonable....then they wouldn’t pay for them. Then the prices would lower. You’re also assigning value to 2 different things in a way that’s unfair. It’s been pointed out that shape makers do put time into making a product, just like mesh maker does. If you want to turn it around. You could argue...if you know what you’re doing in a 3D modeling program you can put together a sellable project in a shorter amount of time than it takes to make and sell a shape.

I think 250-450 is fair for a shape and here’s why: 1) you aren’t going to sell as many shapes as you would a mesh object in general. So yeah, getting a 250 bump a couple times a week isn’t exactly going to pay your rent next month in real life. If anything, it’s going to be enough to buy something with. Yes, I know there are shape making stores...but there’s no Blueberry of shapemaking. It’s a small time business that is still doable in SL. 2) if the market bears that price, then there’s nothing wrong with the price. Personally, if I took time to make a shape, do an ad, package it up. Someone telling me my time is worth 25L would be an insult. 3) it’s a major part of an avatar. Changing shape can give you a completely different appearance. 250 is too much?

Y’all do realize the average price of a shape is about $1-2 US, right? If someone can’t be bothered with making their own shape, why is paying that small amount so irksome?

I'm in the depends boat. If it's a "mental health" day, yeah I'll spend extra time on SL. If I'm really sick probably not....except that extra "recovery" day I take.

There’s a couple like this. One is a super secret cabal of creators that hang out together, smack talk other creators, etc, etc be shady-shades in general. The other one is a super exclusive sexi-time club.....where they also hang out together smack talk each other, etc, etc be general shadi-shades.

That actually was what I was afraid of when I first saw the SL icon! That my grandmother was on SL in some MC or something or playing some young Thotty. My heart dropped for a minute! I asked her about it and she said it was a video game her tenant plays. Then I logged in!

Funny story: My meme is 87, uses Facebook, pays her bills online, etc. She’s pretty computer savvy for an 87 year old. She’s independent, still lives in her own house, has a tenant. I’m going somewhere with this (don’t worry) A couple years ago, I was visiting her and she told me she was having problems with her PC. Then she told me her tenant’s Teenage daughter comes by hangs out with her and uses her computer. What could possibly go wrong with letting a teenage girl use your computer right? So I go on her computer. What’s the first thing I see? The girl installed SL and was coming to hang out with my grandmother AND play SL! I had to be nosey. I logged in....it was a regular profile. She filled out her profile, average profile, nothing weird. She had one of the new starter Avis, no crazy objects. I logged off satisfied, cleared a couple caches, told my grandmother she was good. I didn’t say anything to the girl about SL, it looked like she was just exploring. But I was surprised a 16 year old kid found and was on SL. I wouldn’t be surprised this is quite common. The next time I visited my grandmother, SL was still on there. The time after that it was gone. It could’ve been that my grandmother is using a 12 year old Dell and she got her own newer PC, maybe she got bored with SL and stopped logging on, maybe my grandmother said something to her. Kids are finding SL. I’ve seen it.

Damn you LL! I want my last name and I want it NAO!!!!! BLAAAAAAH OmG WhY?! Sooooo important to meeeeee!

I want this Editors back!

Not together though

Another thing I’d like to add on the generational pile. Yes, younger people tend to text someone else while in a meeting or in public. So I could see how it’s can be viewed as sneaky, because sometimes it is! However, a thing to consider about local: when you’re dealing with a group of 5+ people, local can be much harder to follow and exponentially so the more people that get involved in the conversation. You tend to see this in large group chats as well as local. The conversation will shift because someone will jump into it with something completely different. This can be especially problematic in a help group, because while someone is in the middle of explaining something, someone else or the same person (!) will be trying to explain something different to someone else, plus the tangent that is now going on...a large group chat can be like a word salad sometimes.

I don’t mind either IMs or public chat. But I also consider myself a tweener, I started when last names were still a thing and mesh was “coming soon” but not old enough to go way back. I said all that to say, I remember when SL was much more social and inclusive and I noticed when a shift towards an IM culture started. People started putting “I don’t respond to local” etc. I’m ok with both to be honest. I think it’s a generational thing. Before someone gets all upset, allow me to explain. For boomers and Gen X’ers, people tend to be large group oriented. School was a whole class thing. The internet was just starting to come into its own and chat rooms were large group experiences. Forums were a thing and that was how people met and communicated. People tended to stick with a conversation, because a pc could only run one program at a time. Enter Millennials and Gen Z. School became small group oriented. Texting and sexting became a thing, im’ing and quicker methods of communication became preferred. Emojis, text speak, etc. conversations are more fluid. ie someone will say something and pick up the conversation 20+ minutes later (something that happens frequently in text). People tend to be more tabbed out, on SL....watching Netflix or playing video games all at the same time. Obviously, it’s not just younger generations doing this. I’m just saying what became the norm as time and technology have passed. I like people talking in local. It makes the world seem more alive. But at the same time, what I’ve noticed is people tend to still talk in local, but it’s less inclusionary. People will say something like “ Oh, I just jump right in!” That doesn’t work for everyone and again, I think this is a generational thing. Younger generations tend to not just jump into conversations. Even in clubs, I remember when there would be social games. A host would come up with things for people to do together. At some point, a host’s job just became to say hello to people that tp’d in and to expect a tip for that. Unsurprisingly, after a few minutes of not being engaged, people tp away. I’m not even sure I answered the question. I think what Im trying to say is, I think I know why were more im oriented now. It’s up to us to change it though.

It sounds like you got some full perm clothing. not sure whether it’s a mesh template or an applier template. Anyway, open the folder. Open your diffuse texture, uv, ao if it has it and speculation maps. Or which ever the creator included. At minimum it’s going to be a uv and an ao. If it’s full perm you want to save those textures to your HD. You can choose .psd or .tga when you save it to SL. once you’ve saved it to your HD, you should be able to open the file in your favorite graphics program, no problem.

If your whole experience with SL has been social islands might be time to try something new.

Lol. I genuinely don’t care about who likes it or who wants to try it out or whatever. I’m genuinely saying Legacy is doing an amazing thing that no other body seems to be able to do, that is break into the mesh body market. That wouldn’t be possible without a machine behind it. Its ok to be a part of the machine.

Gotta get the heterochromia in the pic man....gotta.

Is he like....some cat from japan? You know....screwed up eyes and screwed down hairdo?

You really have to marvel at it. I haven’t seen anything permeate every aspect of SL like this since.....well it’s just amazing to watch this play out.

I wouldn’t sue you! Just keep in mind a couple of elections are coming up soon! Keep that same energy!!!!

There is a Janet Osilio in real life. I’m pretty sure she’s married now and has a different last name though. Anyway, I always thought it was a cool sounding name. Some names just sound cool when you hear them. To me, it’s a cool sounding name. It’s a Filipino last name, I’m not Filipina either, I’m French Canadian. When you grow up in Quebec, you get used to hearing French sounding names. When I moved to the US about 10 years ago, different sounding names were like music to my ears. I heard her name and was like....yeah, cool name. When I made this alt everybody got Resident. So I jammed them together JanetOsilio because you couldn’t put the period between the name. Seemed like a good idea at the time. I get called “Jane” a lot.

*Applauds Legacy’s hype machine* Y’all are getting people that dookied on the body for 20 pages to actually buy it and say good things about it. This is an election stealing leveled feat.

I’m not sure where she got her sampling from. But even still, 1000+ is nothing to sneeze at. She could’ve solicited responses from groups in world. I seriously doubt she got 1000 responses from this forum. My only real take away is that Legacy has made a significant gain. That’s not really surprising, the amount of people asking creators for Legacy stuff in group chats alone tells me there are a significant user base. At least three times while I’m logged in, someone comes into one of the groups I’m in and goes “Did they start making things for Legacy?” I wouldn’t call the data heavily skewed though. It’s going to be skewed just because it’s from a blog where most followers are going to tend to like the same type of things she as the blogger likes. Which...is how blogging works. Still 1000 responses is worth noting. You’re right though, it is interesting. By the time Strawberry does her poll in December, we could see different numbers. What I’m seeing though, Legacy is taking primarily from Belleza and Slink. That’s the trend I’m seeing already.