Janet Voxel

He likes duck waving.

Let’s look at this another way. Person A is involved in a “relationship” with person B in SL. Not much personal information is shared beyond superficial things. They become close over time. One day person B says I want your address person A, I want to see you in person. Person A refuses. Who’s in the wrong there?

I understand your point and maybe I’m one of those people that has a fairly easy time shopping. So I’ll try to address your question. Before I do though, I have to get this out of the way. I have to say this because it’s a pet peeve of mine. People tend to come on here and say SL women’s fashion is *****ty, but what does *****ty mean? It’s a serious question, not rhetorical at all. Obviously, I’m aware of people who have avatars wearing a micro-mini dress or just a harness. Forget about them. Where is the ***** line? Lets start with jeans. Is it because the jeans are too tight? Is it because they’re ripped? To me those are average women’s clothes and I see them everywhere! I don’t see anything *****ty about tight fitting jeans, same applies to pants. Let’s move on to skirts. Remember, throw a micro mini. What’s the appropriate length? Knee? Past the knee? I see various lengths all the time....everywhere. Dress? It’s similar to a skirt. Current styles are form fitting, some times they have cut outs on the sides but not always. Sometimes they look like this I don’t see what’s bad about that and I see things like that everywhere. All. The. Time. See where I’m going with this? So where to shop? You can find stuff at events, but it’s better to shop in main stores. Someone already mentioned Blueberry, but there’s also Just Because and they’re on the same sim. Tetra....CoCo....there’s lots and they’re popular stores. This may be considered a little bit of a cheeky answer, but try to stay away from stores with names like smutcoochie and ‘howear. Its really that simple.

I went down this rabbit hole last night:

Or repeating the same thing for years.....

The thing is...is it really an underserved market?

Probably the same person I ran into. I didn’t mess with slink products for a couple years because of it. You would think after the brouhaha over kits a few years ago, creators would’ve learned to just make the kits freely available. Instead, it created a climate where people want to create, but don’t want to do it for the bodies they can get kits for, they want to create for kits they have a hard time getting. If you want to create, create! Use what’s available to you. There’s a market for those other bodies and you can do alright just selling things for other bodies.

What is this wizardry? You could’ve used an animation hud and gotten the same realistic result!

This is why you can’t just say “SL’s player is declining”. That hasn’t happened with SL People leave, people come back, people leave, people come back. When you think about it, that’s actually amazing.

That graph looks relatively level. It’s tiny on my phone, but it looks to be on average around somewhere between 35-50k since 2012. I don’t know about you, but those are about the same numbers I see when I log on with firestorm. Some days it’s high, some days it’s lower. But on average....

All of that is well and good....if you take everything literally. It’s gone from 9999999 users to 400000 users since 2007, that’s a decline. Yes, but at the same time, that ignores a lot of facts. There was a brief period where SL was everywhere. Magazines were writing about it (in a serious manner), there were commercials, it was featured in tv shows, news shows were doing pieces on it. Obviously, more people than usual are going to try it out because it has a huge amount of exposure. Then it became a meme. The office (us) did a hilarious episode where Dwight...well I won’t spoil it. Users declined for....reasons. But then it leveled off and it remained relatively level. I wouldn’t say that’s a decline, it experienced a boom, then it declined, because let’s face it....those kind of numbers are difficult to maintain, then it leveled off. It’s remained at the relatively same number of users. Its not accurate to say its declining. It’s had the same relative number of users, that’s what the concurrent user data shows.

That’s true, but you’re kind of ignoring the concurrent users staying relatively the same, aren’t you?

Lol...y’all really want SL to be on a decline.

FaceApp is like two years old. This is the guy that’s supposed to be in the “know” about all things technology?

I have the two demos. I’m still playing around with shapes, so I haven’t settled on a look yet. I also have only worked with the Erin head, but holy crap!!!! This head is fantastic!!!! The shape sliders allow such a wide range of looks, you can play with it for hours and keep coming up with something that looks good! Lelutka did a really good job! I’ll post pictures when I settle on a look.

Yes!

Back in the golden age of message boards there used to be a link you could put in your sig that would spit the person viewing your post back at them. It was a cartoon character holding a sign that said something like “Your ip is 0.0.0.0.0.0” People would freak out and contact the admin. I got asked to remove that on many a forum.

“I’m real!!! I’m voice verified, cam verified” *Later on in the profile* “Real life is real life, second life is second life!!!”

The days of mega sims and gigantic groups of people just hanging out on a sim are over. It’s too laggy. Once any hangout starts getting crowded, people start leaving. People tend to hangout in smaller groups and smaller sims because the lag is more manageable. Going to any popular shopping event the first few days they open will tell you SL isn’t dying. Group chats are usually very lively, it just depends on the group. The game has changed, but the numbers really haven’t.

There’s also this thing called diminishing returns that are very real. If everybody is wearing a catwa or genus head, at some point you aren’t going to get as much traffic because everybody that is going to buy your product has it. So for catwa, Catya came out and it was the only bento head out. Everybody has a catwa head in their inventory, figuratively speaking. If you wanted a bento head, you were getting a catwa. Over time, more and more competition arose, some customers went to other brands, some customers stick with the head they have. You have to expect that. Sales falling off is not a good indicator of user base falling off. Concurrent user data is. It’s about the same as it was 5 years ago 35-55k users at any given time. That indicates inertia not a decline. Compare that to something like Everquest, which has been around almost as long and their user base has truly declined.

Hair and all! And she rocks it!

See here’s the thing: fashion is trend based. This holds true in real life as well as second life. In real life my boss wears 80’s clothing. As in, it’s clothing from the 80’s. That was her bag back then, it’s still her bag. Women’s clothes in the 90’s, 00’s and 10’s just didn’t interest her. The beauty of SL is, you can wear whatever you want. If you decide the current trend is too *****ty, there are plenty of stores you can go to and not look *****ty. There are tonnes of stores you can buy from to look casual, Victorian, fantasy, sci-fi, etc. I’m not into kawaii or goth stuff. It’s just not my thing. So, I just don’t go to the Kawaii fair or shop at Kawaii stores. I don’t care if other people like it or are wearing it, I don’t. This whole thing is weird. A creator isn’t going to see this thread and say “Well, I guess I should start making more respectable looking clothing.” I’m sure the intent wasn’t to do that. If it wasn’t....then what was it? You can easily do a search for women’s pants, jeans, shorts, blouse, jacket and find something non *****ty. When you do....that’s your store!

I see, so converting to BoM is just a matter of taking your mesh, whether its a head or a body and reuploading it as a bakes on mesh body?

Bree said we're too polite!