Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM 1 minute ago, Paul Hexem said: Oh yeah. It'd be lying to say there's no change at all. Personally, I'm one of the ones that benefitted- I'm getting extra FPS on near identical settings. Some people will get less based on how much load their GPU is now taking. The hyperbole is saying "It worked fine on ALM and now it's completely broken and I have to quit SL or buy a totally brand new 2000 USD computer." It´s not completely broken, but too broken for too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Just now, Vivienne Schell said: too many You keep saying that and people keep asking for a source that isn't anecdotal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Just now, Paul Hexem said: You keep saying that and people keep asking for a source that isn't anecdotal. The source is in-world. If you ever leave the forums and check the group IM´s or even talk to some people off your high end club you MIGHT get a glimpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM 2 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said: The hyperbole is saying "It worked fine on ALM and now it's completely broken and I have to quit SL or buy a totally brand new 2000 USD computer." this speaks to the quiet part of computer buying advice that maybe we should be shouting .. If you buy a laptop for SL. You wont be able to upgrade it and it will be obsolete sooner. Buy a real PC then you can swap out one part every few years. It's easier than LEGO 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:14 PM 2 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said: Now, by analogy, if PBR drives all the interesting people from SL and leaves only fungal lifeforms, yeah, I'm outta here, too. You can relax Qie. I'm not going anywhere. 😎 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM 3 minutes ago, Rick Nightingale said: You won't find anything like mine in a free library (I have them all, and then some); that's why I had to make it Edit: and not that rich; I sell things at SL prices, not RL prices Damnit, and i thought of marriage. Gah. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted Tuesday at 06:16 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:16 PM 8 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Couple of points ... AMD card owners are struggling, specifically though who bought high end gaming laptops .. The curse of crappy drivers strikes again. GLTF adoption is not about the branding, sheesh. If Linden deviate from GLTF spec then importing GLTF content wont work. The whole point of GLTF is to make moving work from one platform (like blender) to another (like secondlife) easy. It's a huge win for SL and wil take a lot of the secret knowledge out of making high end content. As a side effect we get a lot of new shiny .. because (and I know this might surprise some) .. what we had before PBR was garbage. @Scylla Rhiadra A year ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ1eRTlWDYk - there is other stuff too. Thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted Tuesday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:17 PM 43 minutes ago, Vivienne Schell said: 2011: 50000 sims 2024: 24000 sims Big success! My, that was said confidently... Show us your figures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:17 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:17 PM 2 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: this speaks to the quiet part of computer buying advice that maybe we should be shouting .. If you buy a laptop for SL. You wont be able to upgrade it and it will be obsolete sooner. Buy a real PC then you can swap out one part every few years. It's easier than LEGO Then good luck with exchanging a 8th gen Intel for a 12th gen Intel. Lego. AHahahhahahaha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:19 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said: My, that was said confidently... Show us your figures. Do your homework by yourself. Hint: Try Grid Survey. Edited Tuesday at 06:19 PM by Vivienne Schell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irina Forwzy Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM 1 hour ago, Vivienne Schell said: All true, but I only encountered an comparible outcry in-world when LL came up with the first windlight viewer, looong ago, which was a true showstopper. The result was: Linden Lab withrew the release and worked on the code until it somehow became usable, even lower end. As is now, this baby has the potential to disrupt the customer base, which is predominantlty running lower end/midrange hardware. And i seriously do not see the target group LL goes for alternatively, not anywhere. Time will tell. If they see a drop in lindens processing and users logging in in the upcoming weeks they may push back and rework it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM 3 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: this speaks to the quiet part of computer buying advice that maybe we should be shouting .. If you buy a laptop for SL. You wont be able to upgrade it and it will be obsolete sooner. Buy a real PC then you can swap out one part every few years. It's easier than LEGO I know this conversation came up on reddit and I'll say basically the same thing here that was said over there- Anyone that's ever said "it's not a game" is to blame for people's expectations and computer buying advice being bad. Should have been telling people to buy like it's a game from day one. Laptops are definitely a bad choice, but even if you do need to completely replace it, you can still look at second hand, refurbished, or slowly building up a desktop. There's options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM Just now, Vivienne Schell said: Do your homework by yourself. Hint: Try Grid Survey. I did. *snicker* 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM On a not unrelated matter. @Arielle Popstar and anyone else looking for a PBR-optimized EEP that reasonably closely replicates the look of CalWL, On the strength of Qie's recommendation, I just got Jenna Huntsman's free PBR EEP set, and the "daylight" EEP is pretty much what I suspect you're looking for. It's bright but not washed-out. Too bright for my everyday use, but still good. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/PBR-EEP-Collection-Windlights-DayNight-Cycle-Midday-Night/25626640 (I really like the night setting too.) 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:25 PM 3 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: On a not unrelated matter. @Arielle Popstar and anyone else looking for a PBR-optimized EEP that reasonably closely replicates the look of CalWL, On the strength of Qie's recommendation, I just got Jenna Huntsman's free PBR EEP set, and the "daylight" EEP is pretty much what I suspect you're looking for. It's bright but not washed-out. Too bright for my everyday use, but still good. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/PBR-EEP-Collection-Windlights-DayNight-Cycle-Midday-Night/25626640 (I really like the night setting too.) And here goes the "shared experience", finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted Tuesday at 06:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:26 PM 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: On a not unrelated matter. @Arielle Popstar and anyone else looking for a PBR-optimized EEP that reasonably closely replicates the look of CalWL, On the strength of Qie's recommendation, I just got Jenna Huntsman's free PBR EEP set, and the "daylight" EEP is pretty much what I suspect you're looking for. It's bright but not washed-out. Too bright for my everyday use, but still good. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/PBR-EEP-Collection-Windlights-DayNight-Cycle-Midday-Night/25626640 (I really like the night setting too.) I liked the day option, but the water one in that pack made my undersea garden so dark you could hardly see a thing Still searching for the perfect water texture...has to look good on top but allow light underwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted Tuesday at 06:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:27 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, Vivienne Schell said: Then good luck with exchanging a 8th gen Intel for a 12th gen Intel. Lego. AHahahhahahaha.... Why would you jump from 8 to 12, when even a 6 or 7 will hold up for a while still? By the time you're looking at 12, you should be all caught up on everything else, maybe even bought a mobo with the new socket while it was on sale or something. Edited Tuesday at 06:28 PM by Paul Hexem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM 6 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said: I know this conversation came up on reddit and I'll say basically the same thing here that was said over there- Anyone that's ever said "it's not a game" is to blame for people's expectations and computer buying advice being bad. Should have been telling people to buy like it's a game from day one. Laptops are definitely a bad choice, but even if you do need to completely replace it, you can still look at second hand, refurbished, or slowly building up a desktop. There's options. There always is an option for getting a Ferrarri. And yes, one can, with some MINOR skills, turn a Ford Fiesta into Ferrari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted Tuesday at 06:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:30 PM 3 minutes ago, Vivienne Schell said: And here goes the "shared experience", finally. How so? People have always been able to use their own EEPs in other places. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristiano Midnight Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Just now, Scylla Rhiadra said: How so? People have always been able to use their own EEPs in other places. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THE THREAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted Tuesday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:32 PM 3 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I liked the day option, but the water one in that pack made my undersea garden so dark you could hardly see a thing Still searching for the perfect water texture...has to look good on top but allow light underwater. I haven't tried the water one, but water is so utterly borked at the moment anyway that I'm not sure anything could make it look very good. When taking photos near water (which I have been doing over the past week or two) I am using my non-PBR version of Black Dragon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:33 PM 1 minute ago, Cristiano Midnight said: YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THE THREAD Right. Sorry. Leaving now!!! /me pretends to close the door behind her. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivienne Schell Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM 3 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said: Why would you jump from 8 to 12, when even a 6 or 7 will hold up for a while still? By the time you're looking at 12, you should be all caught up on everything else, maybe even bought a mobo with the new socket while it was on sale or something. I would not. If i had 6th or 7th gen i´d seriously think of getting a completely new machine. 8th would not require a new motherboard and still work for the upcoming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: 6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I liked the day option, but the water one in that pack made my undersea garden so dark you could hardly see a thing Still searching for the perfect water texture...has to look good on top but allow light underwater. I haven't tried the water one, but water is so utterly borked at the moment anyway that I'm not sure anything could make it look very good. When taking photos near water (which I have been doing over the past week or two) I am using my non-PBR version of Black Dragon. Yeah I've got my own prim covering the water with some transparency on my own land...is helping that plastic over-reflective water problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM 13 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: On a not unrelated matter. @Arielle Popstar and anyone else looking for a PBR-optimized EEP that reasonably closely replicates the look of CalWL, On the strength of Qie's recommendation, I just got Jenna Huntsman's free PBR EEP set, and the "daylight" EEP is pretty much what I suspect you're looking for. It's bright but not washed-out. Too bright for my everyday use, but still good. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/PBR-EEP-Collection-Windlights-DayNight-Cycle-Midday-Night/25626640 (I really like the night setting too.) Thx for the reminder. I've had them since January so I guess I should try them out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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