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21 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I just had an idea that if we make Second Life "safe" following the "enhanced" rule changes, it may be an opportunity not only for growth, but for new businesses in Second Life!

For example, a "Kid's Club" - no Adult avatars allowed. I even thought of a name, "Shawty's"!

Do you think this kind of idea is worth starting a thread about?

They did this for Adults too, it's called Zindra. Look how good that turned out.

I believe that most kids related buildings don't allow adults apart from the teacher or overseer, aside from parent nights.

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24 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I just had an idea that if we make Second Life "safe" following the "enhanced" rule changes, it may be an opportunity not only for growth, but for new businesses in Second Life!

For example, a "Kid's Club" - no Adult avatars allowed. I even thought of a name, "Shawty's"!

Do you think this kind of idea is worth starting a thread about?

Shawty's ... I like it. It could be a pirate themed club and we could all go round doing nice things because y'know .... irony.... 

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2 hours ago, JUSTUS Palianta said:

If LL is reading this and considering any of it why haven't they updated the FAQ Monday work day is over now.

Because it's got to go through a bunch of different levels and that takes time:

Someone reads the thread ... they separate the wheat from the chaff ... they pass it on upwards in the chain of command ... the person(s) who are making the decisions think about it (and that takes time, with something this complex) ... they make a decision ... they then have to run it past a bunch of other people (lawyers, possibly the tech specialists to find out if it's even feasible, etc) ... then they reevaluate based on the feedback from that process, then they pass it down to be implemented.

And that's a SIMPLIFIED process. It's probably more complex that that.

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8 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Take your bath when the kids are in school, wear your swimsuit sunbathing, mermaids don't have visible genitalia and females can wear those shell bras.  Do you often run into random nude people when out with the kids?   

 

All the time

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1 minute ago, AnthonyJoanne said:

Because it's got to go through a bunch of different levels and that takes time:

Someone reads the thread ... they separate the wheat from the chaff ... they pass it on upwards in the chain of command ... the person(s) who are making the decisions think about it (and that takes time, with something this complex) ... they make a decision ... they then have to run it past a bunch of other people (lawyers, possibly the tech specialists to find out if it's even feasible, etc) ... then they reevaluate based on the feedback from that process, then they pass it down to be implemented.

And that's a SIMPLIFIED process. It's probably more complex that that.

Indeed, and then there is the optics, how it will effect the financials and of course any legal ramifications. There's a reason company's like to reserve so many rights for themselves, because as soon as you make a decision in one direction you're essentially closing off one in another. In a way I hope they do this properly because after all this is said and done I'm probably going to have to fork out a load of lindens on new content and have to throw away a load of old content. I don't want to be revisiting this issue 6 months down the line because LL messed it up. 

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1 minute ago, Denim Robonaught said:

All the time

Wow,.really?  I visit multiple places including adult places from the Destination Guide every single day and I have yet to run into any randomly naked people.  The last one I did see was at the Welcome Hub, strangely enough, and that's even a G rated region.

 

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1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:

Wow,.really?  I visit multiple places including adult places from the Destination Guide every single day and I have yet to run into any randomly naked people.  The last one I did see was at the Welcome Hub, strangely enough, and that's even a G rated region.

 

Hardly ever happens nowdays. I somehow miss the legendary "Naked Noob". Or the floating dicks attack on Anshe at that TV show...or a bunch of leather cladded dominas with their nude slaves on a chain spoiling some IBM event at the IBM sims...

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1 minute ago, Vivienne Schell said:

Hardly ever happens nowdays. I somehow miss the legendary "Naked Noob". Or the floating dicks attack on Anshe at that TV show...or a bunch of leather cladded dominas with their nude slaves on a chain spoiling some IBM event at the IBM sims...

Too bad i missed those 😄

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1 hour ago, Vivienne Schell said:

She most probably read your reply and decided that there is no reason to be interested in more than that. Possible reasons: Not affected or being affected but understanding an agreeing with sense and content perfectly. Like 95 percent of SL users.

Have you seen her avatar or the two animesh companions she used to have with her?

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4 minutes ago, brodiac90 said:

Indeed, and then there is the optics, how it will effect the financials and of course any legal ramifications. There's a reason company's like to reserve so many rights for themselves, because as soon as you make a decision in one direction you're essentially closing off one in another. In a way I hope they do this properly because after all this is said and done I'm probably going to have to fork out a load of lindens on new content and have to throw away a load of old content. I don't want to be revisiting this issue 6 months down the line because LL messed it up. 

Very true.

I'd wager that the moles would rather be writing a script to grow grass than have to wade through another 200 page thread like this one.

As I've noted elsewhere ... don't borrow trouble from the future. Yes, it's possible that you may have to retire old content, but don't throw it away, you never know if things might change. I kept all my system clothes and the advent of BOM brought them back with a vengeance! :D

It's still early days in this whole thing, and stressing about what MIGHT happen is just going to make you unhappy. Raise your concerns, reiterate them when necessary, and try to stay positive.

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Another possibility to solve the teenage problem. If the older adult marries the younger "child" first, is AP then legal?  I know of several Las Vegas marriage chapels where Elvis will get you hooked up in about 10 mins.  And they are on M-rated regions.  Divorces only scheduled in the morning, and as usual the divorce costs more than the wedding fees.

In the RL, shotgun weddings are approved by the most conservative churches.  Age difference doesn't seem to be much of a factor.   In SL this probably means too old guys would need to get married.  But, Oh Well.

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Just now, AnthonyJoanne said:

Very true.

I'd wager that the moles would rather be writing a script to grow grass than have to wade through another 200 page thread like this one.

As I've noted elsewhere ... don't borrow trouble from the future. Yes, it's possible that you may have to retire old content, but don't throw it away, you never know if things might change. I kept all my system clothes and the advent of BOM brought them back with a vengeance! :D

It's still early days in this whole thing, and stressing about what MIGHT happen is just going to make you unhappy. Raise your concerns, reiterate them when necessary, and try to stay positive.

I'm not sure keeping illegal skins without modesty layers is a good idea. 

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8 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Wow,.really?  I visit multiple places including adult places from the Destination Guide every single day and I have yet to run into any randomly naked people.  The last one I did see was at the Welcome Hub, strangely enough, and that's even a G rated region.

 

I'm a little disappointed, actually.  Nude beaches aren't my thing, but I went to one last month just to see what the excitement is about.  I was the only one there.  Nude, yeah, but heck.. I could be nude in my own parcel and save myself the teleport.

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25 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Take your bath when the kids are in school, wear your swimsuit sunbathing, mermaids don't have visible genitalia and females can wear those shell bras.  Do you often run into random nude people when out with the kids?   

 

Maybe i'll just wear a modesty layer 🙄

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Just now, Denim Robonaught said:

Maybe i'll just wear a modesty layer 🙄

BoM undies are great.

As far as all these random naked people...there are quite a few fun places in the Destination Guide on General land.  Things the kids would probably enjoy.  I do.  Then, if a naked person does arrive, you can AR them since naked isn't allowed on General at all and certainly not in front of the children.  Save Moderate and Adult for.parent's night out.

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3 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

I'm a little disappointed, actually.  Nude beaches aren't my thing, but I went to one last month just to see what the excitement is about.  I was the only one there.  Nude, yeah, but heck.. I could be nude in my own parcel and save myself the teleport.

Yeah, nude beaches have been dead for a while now. last time I visited 15 places and they were all very beautiful, but also all very empty..

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1 minute ago, Jaylinbridges said:

Another possibility to solve the teenage problem. If the older adult marries the younger "child" first, is AP then legal?  I know of several Las Vegas marriage chapels where Elvis will get you hooked up in about 10 mins.  And they are on M-rated regions.  Divorces only scheduled in the morning, and as usual the divorce costs more than the wedding fees.

In the RL, shotgun weddings are approved by the most conservative churches.  Age difference doesn't seem to be much of a factor.   In SL this probably means too old guys would need to get married.  But, Oh Well.

 

Well, there is some animesh Elvis at Campwich Forest (Bellisseria) who is only there for doing shotgun marriages. Linden owned, no charges. Maybe they planted him there for solving the teenage problem. We should ask for clarification in the revised FAQ, for sure.

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37 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

If you ever want some help finding a look or building an avatar you can feel comfortable in, you could start a thread over in Your Avatar and we can help you out over there.

No, but thank you.  It isn't like I'm having a creative block on how to redo her.  This avatar represents a loss to me in RL.   This goes back the therapy reasons in thread.    So, it's lack of ability its emotional. 

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1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:

BoM undies are great.

As far as all these random naked people...there are quite a few fun places in the Destination Guide on General land.  Things the kids would probably enjoy.  I do.  Then, if a naked person does arrive, you can AR them since naked isn't allowed on General at all and certainly not in front of the children.  Save Moderate and Adult for.parent's night out.

So now kids can't be in moderate areas either anymore

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6 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

I'm a little disappointed, actually.  Nude beaches aren't my thing, but I went to one last month just to see what the excitement is about.  I was the only one there.  Nude, yeah, but heck.. I could be nude in my own parcel and save myself the teleport.

Yeah, home is where I spend the most naked time...alone.   Just how I like it.

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2 minutes ago, Denim Robonaught said:

So now kids can't be in moderate areas either anymore

Of.course they can but you did say you were running into naked people "all the time".

The one sure way to avoid that, since we're concerned about the children, is to just do family trips to General.  I'm really wondering what types of places you're taking them that have all these random naked people,.though.   It's just not been my experience in 15 years.

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